Pre-Draft Buzz/Landing Spot Clues?

[StripesOfKC]

Not trying to pile on here but Lawrence and Fields have been neck and neck as prospects for years.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-fo ... yva6lgjni3

https://lettermenrow.com/ohio-state-foo ... in-fields/

"He received a five-star rating and a composite score of 0.9998, which ranks tied for eighth all-time in the ranking’s history."

Not saying he's all that, or will amount to anything, but he has history of being well regarded, so dismissing him as a smoke cloud for fans seems wrong.

I'm speaking specifically with regard to their NFL standing and in general saying that draft takes about a class until 8 months prior to the draft aren't really worth all that to me because the info you hear isn't generally from actual NFL people

Like I like Sam Howell and Spencer Rattler but they aren't "locked in" as the top 2 QBs next year and we don't really have anything actually solid from NFL circles that they are the QB1/2 in 2022. If someone new comes and goes number 1 overall next year they won't be "surpassing" them in the NFL's view. They'd just be better

I guess I'm saying draft boards from a year ago shouldn't sway you that much

Not saying that Fields being higher in fans' minds than he may be in NFL FOs' means he will be bad either

There are examples of NFL teams overthinking a good player and them falling (Watson) and of NFL teams knowing more than fans who were quick to crown a guy based on his college performance (Haskins's falling to 18)

I took your comment to mean football fans are mis-valuing Fields vs Lawrence and that real football evaluators see a bigger gap but maybe I wasn't getting you.

With regards to using "old" data to adjust your board, I guess you could see the beginning of their college career as the start and ask what have the two done over the years since to widen/narrow the gap. Seen quite a few suggestions that Lawrence hasn't done anything to distance himself, certainly not to warrant Lawrence as a number one overall and Fields as the 45/th QB and failing to 8th-24th.

Fields won't fall to 24th but I do think he will be the 4th/5th QB off the board. He's still 3 in my mind I don't think it's a stretch to say NFL looks for different attributes in QB prospects than 247's evaluators

Most pre draft rises and falls are only rises and falls based on media narratives--the exception being major off field problems emerging--Mac Jones being an early 1st isn't a "rise" from January when he was being mocked as a mid to late 1st--it's just the NFL actually starting to look at the tape and make their evaluations

[dark_knite03]

Any concern that Baltimore might make a move for chase at 4? They do have the extra 1st now to play with. Mm very high on Chase but would hate this for a landing spot.

[StripesOfKC]

Any concern that Baltimore might make a move for chase at 4? They do have the extra 1st now to play with. Mm very high on Chase but would hate this for a landing spot.

That's not how Baltimore does the draft

[Ice]

Any concern that Baltimore might make a move for chase at 4? They do have the extra 1st now to play with. Mm very high on Chase but would hate this for a landing spot.

That's not how Baltimore does the draft

Agree, That would be the shocker of the draft. The odds are probably 100-1 that happens. I know we all love Chase's upside from a fantasy perspective but the only pass catcher this draft worth 2 firsts is Pitts IMO.

[Pac_Eddy]

Any concern that Baltimore might make a move for chase at 4? They do have the extra 1st now to play with. Mm very high on Chase but would hate this for a landing spot.

That's not how Baltimore does the draft

Agree, That would be the shocker of the draft. The odds are probably 100-1 that happens. I know we all love Chase's upside from a fantasy perspective but the only pass catcher this draft worth 2 firsts is Pitts IMO.

I don't think two late firsts get you to a top 5 pick. I don't see Baltimore paying what it takes.

[Vcize]

That's not how Baltimore does the draft

Agree, That would be the shocker of the draft. The odds are probably 100-1 that happens. I know we all love Chase's upside from a fantasy perspective but the only pass catcher this draft worth 2 firsts is Pitts IMO.

I don't think two late firsts get you to a top 5 pick. I don't see Baltimore paying what it takes.

Given that there will still be a good QB prospect on the board probably not, but sometimes these kind of trades happen for less than we think.

When the Falcons drafted Julio Jones they traded all the way up from 27 to 6 to take him and only gave up a future 1st and a few late round picks.

[Cameron Giles]

Saw an article saying the Dolphins have done a lot of work on the top RBs.

May be the last week to sell on Gaskin

[murphysxm]

Saw an article saying the Dolphins have done a lot of work on the top RBs.

May be the last week to sell on Gaskin

They better be thinking about their 18th pick, they would be the Dolphins if the use the 6 on a RB in this class

[jordanzs]

Is Miles Sanders going to get Tre Mason’d?

[Blueboy]

Saw an article saying the Dolphins have done a lot of work on the top RBs.

May be the last week to sell on Gaskin

They better be thinking about their 18th pick, they would be the Dolphins if the use the 6 on a RB in this class

Pitts/WR at 6 then RB at 18 seems reasonable

[OhCruelestRanter]

Is Miles Sanders going to get Tre Mason’d?

Probably not- I don’t see the Eagles drafting somebody who clearly relegates Sanders the way Gurley obliterated Mason’s career.

He could get “Gio Bernarded” where they draft a Jeremy Hill type with roughly the same capital they spent on Sanders and make it clear they view him as a complimentary piece.

[StripesOfKC]

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1386495912827133963

So many connected, reputable names and they all think the Niners pick someone not named Fields

Seriously he's the only one I haven't seen tied to the Niners at all

[mgscott]

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1386495912827133963

So many connected, reputable names and they all think the Niners pick someone not named Fields

Seriously he's the only one I haven't seen tied to the Niners at all

Makes me almost think they will draft Fields.

[CL3VELANDBR0WNS]

Is Miles Sanders going to get Tre Mason’d?

Harris seems to be getting too much buzz to fall out of round 1. Etienne seems far too similar to Sanders. The lack of RB talent in this class and the fact that the Eagles have needs just about everywhere else makes me feel like Sanders continues to be a solid hold.

[OhCruelestRanter]

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1386495912827133963

So many connected, reputable names and they all think the Niners pick someone not named Fields

Seriously he's the only one I haven't seen tied to the Niners at all

Makes me almost think they will draft Fields.

I genuinely don’t know who the pick is.