Are you Buying/Selling Sam Darnold - Traded to Carolina

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby failblazer » Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:01 pm

The only way I can see Darnold significantly increasing in value is if he is moved to another franchise. The Jets with or without Adam Game are still a horribly run franchise that I have no faith can put anything resembling NFL talent around him.
16 Team PPR (11th Year Dynasty - Former 2 Time Champion)
P. Mahomes, Z. Wilson
C. McCaffrey, N. Harris, C. Hubbard
D. Hopkins, A. Cooper, C. Kupp, D. Johnson, G. Davis, D. Mims, J. Palmer
D. Waller, C. Kmet, B. Jordan

C. Young, R. Quinn
D. Leonard, M. Milano, C. Mosely, B. Okereke, J. Davis
J. Simmons, J. Fuller

Picks - 1.01, 2.12, 3.01, 3.15, 4.14

16 Team PPR (10th Year Dynasty - Reigning 5 Time Champion)
A. Rodgers, J. Fields
C. McCaffrey, D. Henry, J. Dobbins, M. Davis
D. Hopkins, D. Adams, C. Kupp, M. Jones, M. Valdes-Scantling, A. Green, T. Johnson, Dy. Brown, G. Pickens, J. Tolbert,
N. Fant, A. Okwugbunam, J. Harris
J. Elliott

D. Lawrence, R. Quinn, T. Hendrickson
R. Smith, B. Okereke, L. Wilson, J. Davis, D. Tranquil, B. Asamoah
J. Simmons, W. Harris

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby burntfire » Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:14 pm

Darnold in Pittsburgh baby! (One can hope for dynasty perspectives)
14 Team Super Flex, 1 PPR
QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1 SFlex, 3 IR

QB: Davis Mills, Kenny Pickett, Sam Darnold, Matt Corral
WR: Chris Godwin, A.J Brown, D.K. Metcalf, Jerry Jeudy, Jalen Reagor, Allen Lazard, K.J. Osborn, Skyy Moore, Tutu Atwell, Greg Dortch
RB: Josh Jacobs, Khalil Herbert, Tyson Chandler, Ronald Jones, K Gainwell
TE: Robert Tonyan, David Njoku, Jonnu Smith, Gerald Everett, Jelani Woods
2023: 1.05, 1.08
2024: 1

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby jordanzs » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:37 am

If I was Darnold, I would intentionally tank.

It seems obvious that The Jets are keeping Gase around to help usher in the Trevor Lawrence era.

If Darnold tries too hard and wins games (see Minshew) then the Jets are removed from those sweepstakes.

Darnold should want Lawrence in town so he can be traded to another team. Anywhere has to be better, right?

I still can’t believe the Jets organization was able to watch the Gase wrecking ball in Miami and they still chose to hire him

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby bjd5211 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:40 am

jordanzs wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:37 am If I was Darnold, I would intentionally tank.

It seems obvious that The Jets are keeping Gase around to help usher in the Trevor Lawrence era.

If Darnold tries too hard and wins games (see Minshew) then the Jets are removed from those sweepstakes.

Darnold should want Lawrence in town so he can be traded to another team. Anywhere has to be better, right?

I still can’t believe the Jets organization was able to watch the Gase wrecking ball in Miami and they still chose to hire him
And show to the other to the teams in the league that you are in fact bad and not just stuck in a bad situation. Genius....

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby jordanzs » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:14 am

Whatever it takes to get out of NY Jets prison....the ends justify the means

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby bjd5211 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:25 am

Ok dude.

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby CGW » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:28 am

Would love Darnold in Indy or Pittsburg. I think a new start is the only way he has a chance to succeed.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Prescott
RB | Jeff Wilson, Pierre-Strong
WR | Adams, Olave, ARSB, Dotson, Addison
TE | Andrews, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1st 2025 | 1stx3, 2nd, 3rdx2

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Stroud
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, Singletary, Jamaal Williams, R. White, Davis-Price, Herbert, Miller
WR | Godwin, AJB, Lamb, D. Johnson, M. Brown, Mooney, Kirk, J. Williams, Skyy Moore, Watson
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1st, 2nd, 3rd

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert, Love, Young, Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, Ford, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Flowers, Collins, Downs
TE | Hockenson, Dulcich, Likely, Otton
2024 | 2nd, 3rdx3, 4th

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby Ice » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:37 am

Never been a fan of Darnold and thought he had a high bust factor entering the league.

I guess it couldn't hurt to get a new coach but don't own him anywhere and probably never will. Head-scratching decision maker IMO. His stats over 2 years now as a starter are simply pedestrian at best and some of the worst in the league.
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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby CGW » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:38 am

Ice wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:37 am Never been a fan of Darnold and thought he had a high bust factor entering the league.

I guess it couldn't hurt to get a new coach but don't own him anywhere and probably never will. Head-scratching decision maker IMO. His stats over 2 years now as a starter are simply pedestrian at best and some of the worst in the league.
Could be said about any QB on one of the worst football teams of all time?
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Prescott
RB | Jeff Wilson, Pierre-Strong
WR | Adams, Olave, ARSB, Dotson, Addison
TE | Andrews, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1st 2025 | 1stx3, 2nd, 3rdx2

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Stroud
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, Singletary, Jamaal Williams, R. White, Davis-Price, Herbert, Miller
WR | Godwin, AJB, Lamb, D. Johnson, M. Brown, Mooney, Kirk, J. Williams, Skyy Moore, Watson
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1st, 2nd, 3rd

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert, Love, Young, Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, Ford, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Flowers, Collins, Downs
TE | Hockenson, Dulcich, Likely, Otton
2024 | 2nd, 3rdx3, 4th

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby jordanzs » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:52 am

CGW wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:38 am
Ice wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:37 am Never been a fan of Darnold and thought he had a high bust factor entering the league.

I guess it couldn't hurt to get a new coach but don't own him anywhere and probably never will. Head-scratching decision maker IMO. His stats over 2 years now as a starter are simply pedestrian at best and some of the worst in the league.
Could be said about any QB on one of the worst football teams of all time?
What would the Jets record be right now if Mahomes was the QB? I wonder. And thankfully for his career, he's a Chief.

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby CGW » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:22 pm

Good question. No doubt mahommes is better than darnold and its really not a discussion, but the Jets have done absolutely nothing to help Darnold succeed. His best receivers are Crowder and Jeff Smith? His best RB is Frank Gore. He's been sacked 12 times and hit probably 100 times(maybe exaggerated?) through 4 games.

I don't think he's a world beater, but his career could have went in a much different direction.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Prescott
RB | Jeff Wilson, Pierre-Strong
WR | Adams, Olave, ARSB, Dotson, Addison
TE | Andrews, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
2024 | 1st 2025 | 1stx3, 2nd, 3rdx2

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Stroud
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, Singletary, Jamaal Williams, R. White, Davis-Price, Herbert, Miller
WR | Godwin, AJB, Lamb, D. Johnson, M. Brown, Mooney, Kirk, J. Williams, Skyy Moore, Watson
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1st, 2nd, 3rd

12 Team | SF | PPR | 1.5TEP | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Herbert, Love, Young, Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, Ford, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Flowers, Collins, Downs
TE | Hockenson, Dulcich, Likely, Otton
2024 | 2nd, 3rdx3, 4th

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby mild » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:39 pm

Ice wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:37 am Never been a fan of Darnold and thought he had a high bust factor entering the league.

I guess it couldn't hurt to get a new coach but don't own him anywhere and probably never will. Head-scratching decision maker IMO. His stats over 2 years now as a starter are simply pedestrian at best and some of the worst in the league.
The stats don't tell the full story on Darnold. To write him off from those would be to ignore some truly insane plays where he has flashed elite pocket mobility and a great downfield arm. That's the point, and the lure, for those of us still reading this thread.

There is a non-zero chance he turns into a world beater if put into a good situation. If anything, the escape from the Gase vortex by players like Tannehill, Drake, and now the 3rd leading receiver in yards in the league in Robby Anderson should be encouraging to us.

The main question is: "has he been broken by the Jets" - because yeah, he's going to need a lot of work...

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby Space Cowboy » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:41 pm

Gase is seeing ghosts! Darnold is a bust, no coach will change that. He's a sloppy QB.

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby jordanzs » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:46 pm

As a Niners fan, I wouldn't mind seeing him being cheaply traded to the Bay Area. I somehow have a feeling that Jimmy G might be a fade, and maybe Darnold can pull a Tannehill under a real coach.

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Re: If Gase is fired - boost for Darnold?

Postby Never Veto1 » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:49 pm

Gase isn't getting fired. He has nudes of Woody Johnson.

How do you think he got the job?
20 Team Superflex (1/2 PPR / 6pt TD's)
11 Starters - QB 1(2), RB 2(4), WR 2(5), TE 2(3)


QB - Kirk Cousins, Deshaun Watson
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WR - Odell Beckham, Adam Thielen, Allen Robinson, Donavan Peoples-Jones
TE - Mark Andrews, Jonnu Smith


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