Unpopular Opinion: You will waste your premium 1st round pick on Kyle Pitts.

[RheinlandChief]

There was never a reason for him to fall that far unless you don't have a TE starting requirement. Congrats

In our league they all go RB heavy in the beginning. so Pitts dropped all the way. was a no-brainer to take him with pick 10.

[thebadferret]

Got Pitts at 5 and had the chance to trade up from nine to four to secure Chase, but decided to trade down and ended up with Bateman, Elijah Moore, Sam Darnold (whom I flipped in the meantime) and Jamin Davis.
Kinda sad, kinda not.

[mild]

#KylePitts

“Kyle Pitts is on pace for almost 1,200 yards this season and the Falcons didn't even figure out how to use him until like two weeks ago. That dude is different.”
https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/statu ... 9947626504

“Kyle Pitts had 163 yards today, breaking the Falcons franchise record for a TE. He has 471 yards in his first 6 games, the most by any TE in the last 50 years.”

(Reminder: the Falcons have had Tony Gonzalez, Alge Crumpler, and even master-compiler Austin Hooper)

"Kyle Pitts is the first rookie TE with back-to-back games of 100+ Rec yards since 1970."

"Most receiving yards per game this season for TEs:
1. Kyle Pitts - 78.5
2. Travis Kelce - 76.1
3. Mark Andrews - 73.7
4. Darren Waller - 63.0
5. Rob Gronkowski - 61.3"

#KylePitts

[gogobradyarm]

#KylePitts

“Kyle Pitts is on pace for almost 1,200 yards this season and the Falcons didn't even figure out how to use him until like two weeks ago. That dude is different.”
https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/statu ... 9947626504

“Kyle Pitts had 163 yards today, breaking the Falcons franchise record for a TE. He has 471 yards in his first 6 games, the most by any TE in the last 50 years.”

(Reminder: the Falcons have had Tony Gonzalez, Alge Crumpler, and even master-compiler Austin Hooper)

"Kyle Pitts is the first rookie TE with back-to-back games of 100+ Rec yards since 1970."

"Most receiving yards per game this season for TEs:
1. Kyle Pitts - 78.5
2. Travis Kelce - 76.1
3. Mark Andrews - 73.7
4. Darren Waller - 63.0
5. Rob Gronkowski - 61.3"

#KylePitts

[gogobradyarm]

I took Pitts at 1.03 over Chase (1.04) in our Rookie Draft. His performance as a 21 year old TE make me so happy. Imagine getting Julio Jones/Calvin Johnson like player at the TE position? I think that is the ceiling we are potentially going to see.

[FantasyFreak]

The thing with Pitts is, in terms of real football I don't even talk about him vs other TE's. He's not a TE. He's just not. That's the cheat code for having him in fantasy. For real football purposes, you need to be comparing him vs WR's, because that's the position he plays. He plays slot, he plays outiside. Not one catch last week came from the TE position. It's great for FF, because in TE premium, or a TE slot with so few producers, he gives an edge, but I don't think it's fair to even consider him a TE, if you're just talking football. When people call him different, and the numbers he's putting up for a rookie TE etc., it's a bit misleading, because he's a WR.

[Shoreline Steamers]

"Atlanta Falcons TE Kyle Pitts' 471 receiving yards are the most ever for a tight end in their first six games, and if he tops 100 receiving yards against the Carolina Panthers in Week 8, Pitts will become the first rookie tight end to record three straight 100-yard games."

Just an interesting tidbit from the news scroll over at Footballguys. Apparently, Pitts can play. The league I got him in it cost me the 1.08. I was happy to take him there.

[Jigga94]

The thing with Pitts is, in terms of real football I don't even talk about him vs other TE's. He's not a TE. He's just not. That's the cheat code for having him in fantasy. For real football purposes, you need to be comparing him vs WR's, because that's the position he plays. He plays slot, he plays outiside. Not one catch last week came from the TE position. It's great for FF, because in TE premium, or a TE slot with so few producers, he gives an edge, but I don't think it's fair to even consider him a TE, if you're just talking football. When people call him different, and the numbers he's putting up for a rookie TE etc., it's a bit misleading, because he's a WR.

So he's a touch below Chase then for most people? How many WR would DEFINITELY rank ahead of him in dynasty?

[Shoreline Steamers]

So he's a touch below Chase then for most people? How many WR would DEFINITELY rank ahead of him in dynasty?

If you factor in age as part of the equation, maybe just Chase and Jefferson at this point?

[dipANDglide]

#1 dynasty asset, IMO. I’d easily take him over ten cent head Chase.

[mild]

The thing with Pitts is, in terms of real football I don't even talk about him vs other TE's. He's not a TE. He's just not. That's the cheat code for having him in fantasy. For real football purposes, you need to be comparing him vs WR's, because that's the position he plays. He plays slot, he plays outiside. Not one catch last week came from the TE position. It's great for FF, because in TE premium, or a TE slot with so few producers, he gives an edge, but I don't think it's fair to even consider him a TE, if you're just talking football. When people call him different, and the numbers he's putting up for a rookie TE etc., it's a bit misleading, because he's a WR.

So is Kelce a TE by the same metric? Waller? Pitts has still had a percentage of snaps in-line. You're right that he does his damage statistically when spread out, but he's still blocking on run plays, doing TE things, and so on.

Regardless, unless this is a shadow argument that he's going to eventually change position when he vies for a 2nd contract, it doesn't matter for us in Fantasy. He is the cheat code of cheat codes at TE. It was the argument for taking him with a premium 1st round pick (cough) all along.

I said it months ago: he has receiver moves and releases at the line. He is a superstar in waiting, wherever he lines up.

[Anteaters]

The thing with Pitts is, in terms of real football I don't even talk about him vs other TE's. He's not a TE. He's just not. That's the cheat code for having him in fantasy. For real football purposes, you need to be comparing him vs WR's, because that's the position he plays. He plays slot, he plays outiside. Not one catch last week came from the TE position. It's great for FF, because in TE premium, or a TE slot with so few producers, he gives an edge, but I don't think it's fair to even consider him a TE, if you're just talking football. When people call him different, and the numbers he's putting up for a rookie TE etc., it's a bit misleading, because he's a WR.

This makes me wonder if his designation won't be switched to WR in the near future. The NFL and/or fantasy sites have changed the player designation of others players in the past.

And this push to switch his designation won't just come from the NFL. It will primarily come from himself because WRs get paid more than TEs. TEs in the past have pushed (and failed so far) to have their position changed. But if Pitts play is primarily outside the normal role of TE, he may have a stronger case to have his switch granted.

If Pitts was switched from a TE to a WR, how would that affect his fantasy value?

[mild]

Regardless, unless this is a shadow argument that he's going to eventually change position when he vies for a 2nd contract...

This makes me wonder if his designation won't be switched to WR in the near future...

Yaaaaawn. Here we go again. This has already been done to death.

This is 4, potentially 5 years away from even being in consideration. At least.

His eligibility will not change until the Falcons call him a WR on the depth chart.

... which they will never do because it'll cost them a lot more to tag/extend him.

Pitts had the option to become a WR in college. He chose not to and said TE is his position. I think the dude is proud to be a TE... and further, his career ceilings are to be the best ever at his current chosen position... or to be another great (potentially) hall of fame WR.

As an elite competitor, isn't the point to try and be the greatest ever and re-define your profession?

He’s going to get elite money anyways, and will be paid WR money - just like Kelce was.

This is a non-story, and is needless hand wringing. But... I do enjoy the constant moving of the goalposts in this, the Official: Kyle Pitts is your Tight End God thread.

[FantasyFreak]

The thing with Pitts is, in terms of real football I don't even talk about him vs other TE's. He's not a TE. He's just not. That's the cheat code for having him in fantasy. For real football purposes, you need to be comparing him vs WR's, because that's the position he plays. He plays slot, he plays outiside. Not one catch last week came from the TE position. It's great for FF, because in TE premium, or a TE slot with so few producers, he gives an edge, but I don't think it's fair to even consider him a TE, if you're just talking football. When people call him different, and the numbers he's putting up for a rookie TE etc., it's a bit misleading, because he's a WR.

So is Kelce a TE by the same metric? Waller? Pitts has still had a percentage of snaps in-line. You're right that he does his damage statistically when spread out, but he's still blocking on run plays, doing TE things, and so on.

Regardless, unless this is a shadow argument that he's going to eventually change position when he vies for a 2nd contract, it doesn't matter for us in Fantasy. He is the cheat code of cheat codes at TE. It was the argument for taking him with a premium 1st round pick (cough) all along.

I said it months ago: he has receiver moves and releases at the line. He is a superstar in waiting, wherever he lines up.

Pretty sure I said all that. It's like having Alvin Kamara, who occasionally lines up as a WR, listed as a WR, and having him in the WR position in a PPC league. It's a cheat code, that's what I said. My only point was that in terms of real football, someone like George Kittle is a superior TE, because he actually plays that position well in all aspects, he's a ferocious blocker in the run game. I specifically made the distinction between real and Fantasy football in my post.

I am not trying to knock Pitts as a player, he's a good player, regardless. It's just talking about him vs all time greats it's kind of not worth it for me, because guys like Gonzalez played a different era, and played the position differently. It's what made a guy like Gonzalez so great. For the era, Tony was a revelation. It's a different game now, and yeah, a guy like Waller, or Pitts, aren't really TE's in the same manner as a guy like Tony. I won't overlook a Raider due to fandom. He's not really a TE in he same way either.

[Jrblaha]

Regardless, unless this is a shadow argument that he's going to eventually change position when he vies for a 2nd contract...

This makes me wonder if his designation won't be switched to WR in the near future...

Yaaaaawn. Here we go again. This has already been done to death.

This is 4, potentially 5 years away from even being in consideration. At least.

His eligibility will not change until the Falcons call him a WR on the depth chart.

... which they will never do because it'll cost them a lot more to tag/extend him.

Pitts had the option to become a WR in college. He chose not to and said TE is his position. I think the dude is proud to be a TE... and further, his career ceilings are to be the best ever at his current chosen position... or to be another great (potentially) hall of fame WR.

As an elite competitor, isn't the point to try and be the greatest ever and re-define your profession?

He’s going to get elite money anyways, and will be paid WR money - just like Kelce was.

This is a non-story, and is needless hand wringing. But... I do enjoy the constant moving of the goalposts in this, the Official: Kyle Pitts is your Tight End God thread.

Yeah bc of the money issue I don’t see ATL ever changing his designation. I think a te complained that they were basically a WR for contract purposes, but I don’t think their position tag ever changed. This probably only becomes a thing if Pitts himself decides he wants to be a WR. Seems like he enjoys TE tho, so doubt this ever matters