No because Najee Harris is going to most likely weigh in between 220-230 pounds. Even a 4.6 won’t be a death sentence for him. On top of that in high school he tested with elite quickness and I expect that to continue to be the caseKingsKing wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:18 pmIf Harris runs a 4.6 which is possible will you be out on him too? Also I didn’t bother to check but I’m pretty sure off the top of my head Williams numbers are very similar to Josh Jacobs coming out .alewilliam789 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:44 pmThis is exactly why I was saying wait till this guy’s pro-day. I heard 4.5/4.4 at 220 on here and absolutely didn’t see it. This draft is getting slimmer and slimmer. Happy I traded all my late picks this year. Only players I want are Pitts, Harris, Lawrence, and Chase
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if montgomery can be an nfl running back, so can williams.
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Not everyone can have Matt Nagy as their head coach!killer_of_giants wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 11:06 am if montgomery can be an nfl running back, so can williams.
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You watch Williams play and he reminds you of Sankey? Because they both have 2 legs, or were there other similarities?YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:18 am I don't know why, but I smell a Bishop Sankey odor coming from him. I'm no scout, but it's sitting in the back of my head.
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I'm not sorry that I have an opinion. Move along now.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:17 pmYou watch Williams play and he reminds you of Sankey? Because they both have 2 legs, or were there other similarities?YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:18 am I don't know why, but I smell a Bishop Sankey odor coming from him. I'm no scout, but it's sitting in the back of my head.
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No need to be sorry. I was just hoping that you might drill down on that opinion.YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:58 pmI'm not sorry that I have an opinion. Move along now.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:17 pmYou watch Williams play and he reminds you of Sankey? Because they both have 2 legs, or were there other similarities?YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:18 am I don't know why, but I smell a Bishop Sankey odor coming from him. I'm no scout, but it's sitting in the back of my head.
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He decided not to run the 40 today, better take him off the board completelyalewilliam789 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:06 amNo because Najee Harris is going to most likely weigh in between 220-230 pounds. Even a 4.6 won’t be a death sentence for him. On top of that in high school he tested with elite quickness and I expect that to continue to be the caseKingsKing wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 10:18 pmIf Harris runs a 4.6 which is possible will you be out on him too? Also I didn’t bother to check but I’m pretty sure off the top of my head Williams numbers are very similar to Josh Jacobs coming out .alewilliam789 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 29, 2021 8:44 pm
This is exactly why I was saying wait till this guy’s pro-day. I heard 4.5/4.4 at 220 on here and absolutely didn’t see it. This draft is getting slimmer and slimmer. Happy I traded all my late picks this year. Only players I want are Pitts, Harris, Lawrence, and Chase
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I'm certain I'm wrong, but it was just an odd feeling watching him. What I remember about Sankey was that he could never turn it up a notch and he'd slow down and get caught. The counter is that Williams seeks out contact ahead of time knowing he can't outrun them with top end speed and is able to plow. Am I dogging it a little bit, yes, but it's just a vibe.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:12 pmNo need to be sorry. I was just hoping that you might drill down on that opinion.YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:58 pmI'm not sorry that I have an opinion. Move along now.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:17 pm
You watch Williams play and he reminds you of Sankey? Because they both have 2 legs, or were there other similarities?
I'm sitting at 1.04 and can go either way depending on where he's drafted.
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Thanks! I’m wrong enough that I value contradictory opinions. The input is greatly appreciated.YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:36 pmI'm certain I'm wrong, but it was just an odd feeling watching him. What I remember about Sankey was that he could never turn it up a notch and he'd slow down and get caught. The counter is that Williams seeks out contact ahead of time knowing he can't outrun them with top end speed and is able to plow. Am I dogging it a little bit, yes, but it's just a vibe.Bronco Billy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:12 pmNo need to be sorry. I was just hoping that you might drill down on that opinion.YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 12:58 pm
I'm not sorry that I have an opinion. Move along now.
I'm sitting at 1.04 and can go either way depending on where he's drafted.
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He doesn't need to run or test any drills...he is from the all mighty Alabama program after all. None of those guys need to test or weigh themselves, their too scared to man up as it might hurt their draft stock.KingsKing wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:26 pmHe decided not to run the 40 today, better take him off the board completelyalewilliam789 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:06 amNo because Najee Harris is going to most likely weigh in between 220-230 pounds. Even a 4.6 won’t be a death sentence for him. On top of that in high school he tested with elite quickness and I expect that to continue to be the case
In that regard, you have to respect Ronald Moore. He knew he was short, and that will hurt his draft stock as there are no comparable players to him. But he showed up and put on display his complete athletic profile and dodged nothing.
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I have Harris 2nd on my board so I like him as a prospect , he doesn’t everything well except run fast. I honestly was expecting him to run in the 4.65 range but it doesn’t bother me. I was just pointing out how Williams is dead to people for running a 4.55 when his combine performance and metrics are similar to other dynasty darlings like Akers,CEH, Jacobs etcremedy29 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:33 pmHe doesn't need to run or test any drills...he is from the all mighty Alabama program after all. None of those guys need to test or weigh themselves, their too scared to man up as it might hurt their draft stock.KingsKing wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 1:26 pmHe decided not to run the 40 today, better take him off the board completelyalewilliam789 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 10:06 am
No because Najee Harris is going to most likely weigh in between 220-230 pounds. Even a 4.6 won’t be a death sentence for him. On top of that in high school he tested with elite quickness and I expect that to continue to be the case
In that regard, you have to respect Ronald Moore. He knew he was short, and that will hurt his draft stock as there are no comparable players to him. But he showed up and put on display his complete athletic profile and dodged nothing.
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Physically Ceh is the odd man out , but the other 3 are all with 1 inch and a few pounds of each other and had similar combine numbers. Ceh while shorter was going 1.1 in most drafts last year despite running a 4.6 , the year before Jacobs was the consensus 1.1 despite running a 4.6 . I’m not here to argue if Williams is a better prospect or not but i just find it funny Harris,Jacobs, Ceh can all run 4.6 plus and it’s fine , Williams runs a 4.55 and it’s a death sentence.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:18 pm Lumping Akers in with Jacob’s and CEH is an odd choice
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I mean considering Williams ran what very close to what his hand timed was mentioned before the draft, I think it’s safe to say that Harris would have probably run between a 4.45-4.55 hand timed and a 4.5-4.6 actual 40 time.KingsKing wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:05 pmI have Harris 2nd on my board so I like him as a prospect , he doesn’t everything well except run fast. I honestly was expecting him to run in the 4.65 range but it doesn’t bother me. I was just pointing out how Williams is dead to people for running a 4.55 when his combine performance and metrics are similar to other dynasty darlings like Akers,CEH, Jacobs etcremedy29 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:33 pmHe doesn't need to run or test any drills...he is from the all mighty Alabama program after all. None of those guys need to test or weigh themselves, their too scared to man up as it might hurt their draft stock.
In that regard, you have to respect Ronald Moore. He knew he was short, and that will hurt his draft stock as there are no comparable players to him. But he showed up and put on display his complete athletic profile and dodged nothing.
Williams’ burst/quickness scores were not bad tho and imo make up for his low weight adjusted speed.
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