The Deshaun Watson Discussion Thread
Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
Agree. I think he would be sitting regardless of the legal stuff, and said as much in this thread in March.
Definitely difficult to nail down exactly what we should be doing with this guy in fantasy at this point.
Definitely difficult to nail down exactly what we should be doing with this guy in fantasy at this point.
main league, half PPR, all TDs 6, -3 for INT
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
Extra 24 1st
12 team. 2019 champ, 2020 runner up, ‘21 3rd
start 2SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2WRT
QB: T Lawrence, K Cousins, R Wilson, Z Wilson
RB: K Walker, T Ettiene, JK Dobbins, D Gore, J Hasty, D Johnson, L Rountree
WR: JJ, AJB, A Cooper, Juju, C Kirk, J Dotson, N Westbrook-Ikhine, I McKenzie
TE. T Kelce, Pitts, Albert O, D Parham, J O’Shaunessy
1.03, 1.11, 2.02, 2.09
Extra 24 1st
Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
12 team ppr 1qb dynasty league moving to 2qb in 2025. 26 man rosters.
I dealt Watson for Jordan love, Zack Wilson, and his rebuilding roster type 2nd this coming 2022 draft. Good deal?
I dealt Watson for Jordan love, Zack Wilson, and his rebuilding roster type 2nd this coming 2022 draft. Good deal?
12 team dynasty ppr (qb rb wr wr we/te te fx fx df) ...... 27 man rosters and switch to superflex in 25
Qb Anthony Richardson, Derek Carr, Bryce Young, Trey Lance, Herndon Hooker, Malik Willis
Rb - Ken Walker, pollard, Stevenson, Aaron Jones, Dillon,
Wr - D Smith, Higgins, Nacua, Dell, Jeudy, JSN, Addison, Jameson Williams, Dotson , Copeland,
Te - pitts, Njoku, Kraft
D - packers,
2024 2.6 3.1 3.2 3.3 4.3
2025 7 firsts and 7 seconds 2 thirds
2026 6 firsts and 6 seconds
Qb Anthony Richardson, Derek Carr, Bryce Young, Trey Lance, Herndon Hooker, Malik Willis
Rb - Ken Walker, pollard, Stevenson, Aaron Jones, Dillon,
Wr - D Smith, Higgins, Nacua, Dell, Jeudy, JSN, Addison, Jameson Williams, Dotson , Copeland,
Te - pitts, Njoku, Kraft
D - packers,
2024 2.6 3.1 3.2 3.3 4.3
2025 7 firsts and 7 seconds 2 thirds
2026 6 firsts and 6 seconds
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Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
Really too early to tell. Depends what happens with Watson and Wilson and Love's development. So many variables.
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Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
More smoke Watson may be heading to Miami soon.
12 Team PPR, SF, TEP (2 PPR)
QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, SF, 2 Flex
QB - Burrow, Prescott, Cousins
RB - Jacobs, Etienne, Kamara, Ford, Gibson, Dobbins, CEH, Hunt, Hubbard, McKinnon, J Kelley, I Spiller
WR - Chase, Lamb, Diontae, Ridley, Bateman, Thielen, Justin Watson, Iosivas
TE - Goedert, Kincaid, Fant, Juwan Johnson, Jelani Woods
QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, SF, 2 Flex
QB - Burrow, Prescott, Cousins
RB - Jacobs, Etienne, Kamara, Ford, Gibson, Dobbins, CEH, Hunt, Hubbard, McKinnon, J Kelley, I Spiller
WR - Chase, Lamb, Diontae, Ridley, Bateman, Thielen, Justin Watson, Iosivas
TE - Goedert, Kincaid, Fant, Juwan Johnson, Jelani Woods
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Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
Yea, possible three team deal. Watson to Miami and Tua to WFT
Team 1
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce
Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.02, 1.04, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early)
Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Ekeler, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Kamara, Tucker
T: Andrews, Granson
2024: 1.03, 3rd (late)
Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle
Q: Allen, Lamar
W: Devonta, Nuk, Godwin, Adams, Diontae, MT, Bateman, Toney, Osborn
R: JT, Henry, Ekeler, Gibbs, Mattison, Ford
T: Kelce
Team 2
Q: Allen, Mahomes, ARich
W: Jefferson, AJB, Tyreek, GW, Ridley, Godwin, MT, Downs, Toney
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, Breece, J. Cook, Kamara
T: Kelce, Hock
2024: 1.02, 1.04, Pick 21
2025: 1st (early)
Team 3
Q: Lamar, Herbert, Goff, Geno
W: Chase, AJB, Waddle, Pittman, Ridley, MT, Terrace Marshall, Downs
R: CMC, Ekeler, Bijan, Barkley, JT, Kamara, Tucker
T: Andrews, Granson
2024: 1.03, 3rd (late)
Team 4
Q: Mahomes, Allen, Geno
W: Tyreek, Lamb, Ridley, Pittman, Diontae, MT
R: CMC, Henry, JT, Chubb, Dobbins, Tucker
T: Kelce, Gesicki, Kittle
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Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
Not that I think trading for Watson is a good idea for any team.... but I do love to see 3-way team trades with some big players in it so I'm hoping this is real just for the spectacle of it.Hankybro21 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:14 pmYea, possible three team deal. Watson to Miami and Tua to WFT
Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
Rather see Watson go to the WFT Fit right in w/Daniel Snyder cultureAussieMate wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:35 pmNot that I think trading for Watson is a good idea for any team.... but I do love to see 3-way team trades with some big players in it so I'm hoping this is real just for the spectacle of it.Hankybro21 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:14 pmYea, possible three team deal. Watson to Miami and Tua to WFT
Or the Detroit Lions might not bite your knee caps off but surely would rub up against them Doubt Mrs. Ford jr. wants to go that route but surely would be an upgrade over Goff who’d fit the Texans profile. (jk, Chris Spielman would probably beat Watson’s butt in the locker room if Campbell didn’t)
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Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
I'll believe it when I see it. I was saying the last time the story frittered out that it would be boosted before the deadline. Not surprised there is more talk about it. I still don't think he hits the field if he gets moved, especially in the wake of all this Gruden stuff. It would be a bad PR look for the NFL to have him playing.
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Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
That.. that 1000x that. John McClain's report was that it could happen this week or next week. That isn't much in terms of "news" since that's been the case since what, March?
I do know that John McClain is a reputable reporter and all but there's more "this could happen" than what actually happens.
My question is, what does Miami give up for Watson and what do they get for Tua?
12 team
1/2 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1 R/W/T, 3W/T, 1SF, 1K, 1 DEF
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence
RB: Bijan Robinson, J. Taylor, Etienne, B. Hall, Roschon Johnson, Najee
WR/TE: J. Jefferson, D. Samuel, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Chase, Waddle, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice
K: Butker
DEF: Bills
2024 picks: 1.11, 3.04
2025 picks: 1st, two 2nds
12 team
1/2 ppr
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1R/W/T, 3 W/T, 1SF
QB: Mahomes, Josh Allen, Aidan O'Connell, Mason Rudolph
RB: Javonte Williams, Barkley, Etienne, J. Warren, D. Foreman, K. Herbert, N. Harris, Chris Rodriguez
WR/TE: D. Adams, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Waddle, Pittman, Drake London, ARSB, Mark Andrews
2024 picks: 1.04, 2.01, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.04, 4.09, 5.05, 5.07
2025 picks: two 2nds
1/2 PPR
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1 R/W/T, 3W/T, 1SF, 1K, 1 DEF
QB: Mahomes, Burrow, Lawrence
RB: Bijan Robinson, J. Taylor, Etienne, B. Hall, Roschon Johnson, Najee
WR/TE: J. Jefferson, D. Samuel, AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Chase, Waddle, Nico Collins, Rashee Rice
K: Butker
DEF: Bills
2024 picks: 1.11, 3.04
2025 picks: 1st, two 2nds
12 team
1/2 ppr
Start: 1QB, 2RB, 1R/W/T, 3 W/T, 1SF
QB: Mahomes, Josh Allen, Aidan O'Connell, Mason Rudolph
RB: Javonte Williams, Barkley, Etienne, J. Warren, D. Foreman, K. Herbert, N. Harris, Chris Rodriguez
WR/TE: D. Adams, DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Waddle, Pittman, Drake London, ARSB, Mark Andrews
2024 picks: 1.04, 2.01, 2.12, 3.05, 3.11, 4.04, 4.09, 5.05, 5.07
2025 picks: two 2nds
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Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
"Welcome to the Party, Pal"
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2
Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
I agree.
I agree.
I agree.
Especially "what does Miami give up for Watson."
If Houston's price is three 1sts and the reality is Tua cost Miami two 1sts, is the price going to be Tua+1st+player? As a lifelong Dolphins fan, that's the most I'd want to pay. Really, I'd rather move forward with Watson in Miami, but if the team is going to pursue him, that should be the most they're willing to trade.
Otherwise, I'm more than happy going after Rodgers or Russ in the offseason.
I agree.
I agree.
Especially "what does Miami give up for Watson."
If Houston's price is three 1sts and the reality is Tua cost Miami two 1sts, is the price going to be Tua+1st+player? As a lifelong Dolphins fan, that's the most I'd want to pay. Really, I'd rather move forward with Watson in Miami, but if the team is going to pursue him, that should be the most they're willing to trade.
Otherwise, I'm more than happy going after Rodgers or Russ in the offseason.
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TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Tre Tucker, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
IR: Mike Williams (WR), Joey Bosa (DL)
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Tre Tucker, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
IR: Mike Williams (WR), Joey Bosa (DL)
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
Texans would be absolute fools to take that. Thankfully BoB isn't there to counter with Tua for Watson and 3 1st.Anteaters wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:54 pmI agree.NWABCS wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:21 amThat.. that 1000x that. John McClain's report was that it could happen this week or next week. That isn't much in terms of "news" since that's been the case since what, March?
I do know that John McClain is a reputable reporter and all but there's more "this could happen" than what actually happens.
My question is, what does Miami give up for Watson and what do they get for Tua?
I agree.
I agree.
Especially "what does Miami give up for Watson."
If Houston's price is three 1sts and the reality is Tua cost Miami two 1sts, is the price going to be Tua+1st+player? As a lifelong Dolphins fan, that's the most I'd want to pay. Really, I'd rather move forward with Watson in Miami, but if the team is going to pursue him, that should be the most they're willing to trade.
Otherwise, I'm more than happy going after Rodgers or Russ in the offseason.
14 Team Super Flex, 1 PPR
QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1 SFlex, 3 IR
QB: Davis Mills, Kenny Pickett, Sam Darnold, Matt Corral
WR: Chris Godwin, A.J Brown, D.K. Metcalf, Jerry Jeudy, Jalen Reagor, Allen Lazard, K.J. Osborn, Skyy Moore, Tutu Atwell, Greg Dortch
RB: Josh Jacobs, Khalil Herbert, Tyson Chandler, Ronald Jones, K Gainwell
TE: Robert Tonyan, David Njoku, Jonnu Smith, Gerald Everett, Jelani Woods
2023: 1.05, 1.08
2024: 1
QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1 SFlex, 3 IR
QB: Davis Mills, Kenny Pickett, Sam Darnold, Matt Corral
WR: Chris Godwin, A.J Brown, D.K. Metcalf, Jerry Jeudy, Jalen Reagor, Allen Lazard, K.J. Osborn, Skyy Moore, Tutu Atwell, Greg Dortch
RB: Josh Jacobs, Khalil Herbert, Tyson Chandler, Ronald Jones, K Gainwell
TE: Robert Tonyan, David Njoku, Jonnu Smith, Gerald Everett, Jelani Woods
2023: 1.05, 1.08
2024: 1
Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
What most people are thinkingOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:39 am"Welcome to the Party, Pal"
Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
Correction: That should have read: "Really, I'd rather NOT move forward with Watson in Miami"
I love Watson's talent, but as the father of three kids (including two daughters) I do not want him on the Dolphins. I'd wait for the result if it was 1 or 3 complaints. But 20+ women? No, where there's smoke there's fire.
I'm more than happy to watch Watson go to another team. Even if he wins a SB there and Miami continues to suck for the next 6 years.
I love Watson's talent, but as the father of three kids (including two daughters) I do not want him on the Dolphins. I'd wait for the result if it was 1 or 3 complaints. But 20+ women? No, where there's smoke there's fire.
I'm more than happy to watch Watson go to another team. Even if he wins a SB there and Miami continues to suck for the next 6 years.
TEAM 1:
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Tre Tucker, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
IR: Mike Williams (WR), Joey Bosa (DL)
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
12 Team ppr w/20 keepers - start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 6IDP 1DEF
QB: Tua, Lamar, Levis
RB: Etienne, Pacheco, JavonteWms, JFord, CEH
WR: Lamb, JChase, Waddle, Pickens, Tre Tucker, Q Johnston
TE: Goedert, Friermuth
DEF: Cowboys, Ravens
IDP:(LB) Bolton, Greenlaw; (DE/DL) ZCollins, BJHill; (S/CB) Pitre, Bates, Witherspoon
IR: Mike Williams (WR), Joey Bosa (DL)
2023 & 2022 Champion: 2020 third place: 2019 Champion
TEAM 2:
14 Team 30roster SF/ppr/TEP - QB/RB/WR/TE/5FLX/SF
QB: Tua, CJStroud, Carr, AOC, MWhite, Lock
RB: Etienne, Stevenson, GusE, AJD, Singletary, CEH, Spiller
WR: Amon-Ra, Kirk, Dell, Thielen, Gallup, Ch Jones
TE: Andrews, Waller, Taysom, Smythe, WMallory, JOliver
2023 semifinals loser
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Re: Is it time to panic with Deshaun Watson yet?
Fake news Jeff McLain has been saying Watson is going to be traded for 6 months. Eventually he will be right and celebrated, after being wrong over and over again.
I've completely checked out of this situation. Until something actually happens I don't care.
I've completely checked out of this situation. Until something actually happens I don't care.
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