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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby Mjvb5 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:38 am

Jigga94 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:01 am
KingsKing wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:15 pm I love this player but this time shocked me , on tape he plays more like a 4.55 guy. Going to be interesting to see if everyone is running real fast at pro days , I think we might need to add a tenth of a second to everyones times across the board.
I mean this was a laser time, not hand times like pro days.

For pro days though I agree. Some people say add .05 for hand timed and some say anywhere from .1 to
.15 is more realistic sooo who knows
Yup laser time is pretty accurate across the board , the main reason why combine laser is viewed as so much more accurate than laser anywhere else is because everyone is running under(as close to as possible) the same circumstances at least within their own position group.
Same turf, weather, time of day, workload on a time span, etc

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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby KingsKing » Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:43 am

Jigga94 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:01 am
KingsKing wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:15 pm I love this player but this time shocked me , on tape he plays more like a 4.55 guy. Going to be interesting to see if everyone is running real fast at pro days , I think we might need to add a tenth of a second to everyones times across the board.
I mean this was a laser time, not hand times like pro days.

For pro days though I agree. Some people say add .05 for hand timed and some say anywhere from .1 to
.15 is more realistic sooo who knows
I just have questions if these are nfl scouts doing the timing or this Evo company that these players are paying for training and using the facilities . The company would stand to gain a lot to have its trained athletes running really fast times .

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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby Cameron Giles » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:09 am

It's definitely interesting considering people expected him to run like 4.5. Makes you want to go back and watch to see if it matches.

The other thing is, maybe he just doesn't have to play to his full straight line speed as a WR to win and that's why it doesn't look that way in games.

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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby bjd5211 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:10 am

KingsKing wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:43 am
Jigga94 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:01 am
KingsKing wrote: Sat Feb 27, 2021 7:15 pm I love this player but this time shocked me , on tape he plays more like a 4.55 guy. Going to be interesting to see if everyone is running real fast at pro days , I think we might need to add a tenth of a second to everyones times across the board.
I mean this was a laser time, not hand times like pro days.

For pro days though I agree. Some people say add .05 for hand timed and some say anywhere from .1 to
.15 is more realistic sooo who knows
I just have questions if these are nfl scouts doing the timing or this Evo company that these players are paying for training and using the facilities . The company would stand to gain a lot to have its trained athletes running really fast times .
It's former NFL GMs (former TB GM Mark Dominick was the one in charge of the "combine") and executives that set it up and ran it, they aren't going to setup a fraudulent system and burn those bridges with teams to artificially inflate numbers for a handful of prospects when there are always new ones every year.

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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby bjd5211 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:13 am

It really doesn't matter anyway, we always get all worked up over WR 40 times this time of year, and then they don't end up correlating to on field success. Ruggs had one of the fastest times ever last year, and Shenault and Higgins had underwhelming times and were getting buried, I'll take Higgins or Shenault over Ruggs easily.

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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Sun Feb 28, 2021 12:07 pm

I have no idea how these conditions compare, but it’s safe to say that athleticism is not a problem for Bateman, and that’s basically all the 40 is useful for with regard to WRs.

He’s squarely a first round fantasy draft guy right now. NFL size, NFL athleticism, true freshman breakout, declared early, played with another NFL WR in Tyler Johnson, didn’t play in a weird/gimmicky scheme.

As long as he goes in the first round, he’ll check every box.
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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby cantguardjake » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:35 pm

Tylan Wallace reportedly with a 4.39 as well, I think this track may be a touch quick :lol:

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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby mgscott » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:43 pm

cantguardjake wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:35 pm Tylan Wallace reportedly with a 4.39 as well, I think this track may be a touch quick :lol:
They probably have it at 35 yards instead of 40.

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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby bjd5211 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:57 pm

cantguardjake wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:35 pm Tylan Wallace reportedly with a 4.39 as well, I think this track may be a touch quick :lol:
He was expected to be fast, not really a crazy high time for him.

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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby KingsKing » Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:07 pm

Where can we get video or write-ups etc of this thing? I'd like to see the results with heights and weights too.

edit: found this on reddit

A video was posted on Pro Football Focus Instagram of Farley running the 40, although they didn’t tell the time, Farley claimed he ran a 4.24 in the comments. Appears to be laser timed. Would be tied for 2nd best all time at NFL Combine.

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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby cantguardjake » Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:18 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:57 pm
cantguardjake wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:35 pm Tylan Wallace reportedly with a 4.39 as well, I think this track may be a touch quick :lol:
He was expected to be fast, not really a crazy high time for him.
Was he though? I thought the consensus was more average speed with above average ball tracking / contested catch ability?

All I’ve taken from this is Bateman and Wallace are the same speed, which feels about right. No way either run a sub 4.40 at the combine though.

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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby Sriracha » Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:24 pm

cantguardjake wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:18 pm
bjd5211 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:57 pm
cantguardjake wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:35 pm Tylan Wallace reportedly with a 4.39 as well, I think this track may be a touch quick :lol:
He was expected to be fast, not really a crazy high time for him.
Was he though? I thought the consensus was more average speed with above average ball tracking / contested catch ability?

All I’ve taken from this is Bateman and Wallace are the same speed, which feels about right. No way either run a sub 4.40 at the combine though.
If you give this the .05 second pro day bump 4.44 becomes a lot more believable; and should still get you sufficiently pumped.

This elevated Bateman for me in much the same way Justin Jefferson was elevated after he ran a 4.45

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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby cantguardjake » Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:05 pm

Sriracha wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:24 pm
cantguardjake wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 2:18 pm
bjd5211 wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:57 pm

He was expected to be fast, not really a crazy high time for him.
Was he though? I thought the consensus was more average speed with above average ball tracking / contested catch ability?

All I’ve taken from this is Bateman and Wallace are the same speed, which feels about right. No way either run a sub 4.40 at the combine though.
If you give this the .05 second pro day bump 4.44 becomes a lot more believable; and should still get you sufficiently pumped.

This elevated Bateman for me in much the same way Justin Jefferson was elevated after he ran a 4.45
Agreed 4.45 are still great times for both.

Not a huge fan of Wallace personally, but this does elevate Bateman for me.

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Re: Rashod 4.39man

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:35 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:09 am It's definitely interesting considering people expected him to run like 4.5. Makes you want to go back and watch to see if it matches.

The other thing is, maybe he just doesn't have to play to his full straight line speed as a WR to win and that's why it doesn't look that way in games.
I didn't see many times if any when watching him when he had an opportunity to go full speed. Sometimes people don't understand the difference between not having the opportunity to run fast and the inability to run fast. I read several scouting reports saying he was unathletic and I personally didn't think he was unathletic when watching his film.


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