That's a hard no for me. Mayyyybe a late 1st? I'd rather take a dart throw on a younger rookie than a dart throw in Connor being the back to own in Pit past this yearFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:43 pm I don't think anyone is paying a mid fist for Conner. I would definitely not say it's the "going rate".
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Obviously, value is subjective between owners.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:30 amThat's a hard no for me. Mayyyybe a late 1st? I'd rather take a dart throw on a younger rookie than a dart throw in Connor being the back to own in Pit past this yearFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:43 pm I don't think anyone is paying a mid fist for Conner. I would definitely not say it's the "going rate".
As a Conner owner I would have a hard time selling him for a late 1st given his age and situation.
The risk is pretty close between the health of Conner and the bust rate of mid to late 1st round fantasy picks. Conner provides solid production when on the field and he is entering the year healthy.
Conner's last 23 games resulted:
1473 yards rushing 16 TD's
89 receptions 748 yards 4 TD's.
That is roughly 430 points or 18.6 ppg which is RB1 production.
I don't see Conner as elite but he is a very good system back with a solid grasp of the Steelers offense. Last year was tough for him and the Steelers on offense obviously but he still ran it at a clip of 4.34 YPC over those 23 games.
Conner turns 25 in May so he is still young with low mileage.
That said, it is fair to give him a red flag for injury concerns.
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I agree, but I was commenting on "the going rate" being a mid first, which suggests that's an average price for Conner within the community, which I don't think is true.Ice wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:49 amObviously, value is subjective between owners.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 4:30 amThat's a hard no for me. Mayyyybe a late 1st? I'd rather take a dart throw on a younger rookie than a dart throw in Connor being the back to own in Pit past this yearFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:43 pm I don't think anyone is paying a mid fist for Conner. I would definitely not say it's the "going rate".
As a Conner owner I would have a hard time selling him for a late 1st given his age and situation.
The risk is pretty close between the health of Conner and the bust rate of mid to late 1st round fantasy picks. Conner provides solid production when on the field and he is entering the year healthy.
Conner's last 23 games resulted:
1473 yards rushing 16 TD's
89 receptions 748 yards 4 TD's.
That is roughly 430 points or 18.6 ppg which is RB1 production.
I don't see Conner as elite but he is a very good system back with a solid grasp of the Steelers offense. Last year was tough for him and the Steelers on offense obviously but he still ran it at a clip of 4.34 YPC over those 23 games.
Conner turns 25 in May so he is still young with low mileage.
That said, it is fair to give him a red flag for injury concerns.
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Agree on going rate.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:56 amI agree, but I was commenting on "the going rate" being a mid first, which suggests that's an average price for Conner within the community, which I don't think is true.Ice wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:49 amObviously, value is subjective between owners.
As a Conner owner I would have a hard time selling him for a late 1st given his age and situation.
The risk is pretty close between the health of Conner and the bust rate of mid to late 1st round fantasy picks. Conner provides solid production when on the field and he is entering the year healthy.
Conner's last 23 games resulted:
1473 yards rushing 16 TD's
89 receptions 748 yards 4 TD's.
That is roughly 430 points or 18.6 ppg which is RB1 production.
I don't see Conner as elite but he is a very good system back with a solid grasp of the Steelers offense. Last year was tough for him and the Steelers on offense obviously but he still ran it at a clip of 4.34 YPC over those 23 games.
Conner turns 25 in May so he is still young with low mileage.
That said, it is fair to give him a red flag for injury concerns.
His production value is probably there but the market given his injury history and how much picks are valued would be closer to a late 1st.
He is the type of player that will be tough to buy or sell. He is classic hold player IMO.
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Agree with the Hold take. Although I'm sure some owners are looking to sell and get out possibly. He could have a big year and stay healthy, but I'd be looking to sell after that for sure
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Like others have said, Pitt is unlikely to bring in a big name RB, or draft one, so Conner will be around and when healthy he's easily their best option.
Selling now would be selling low, if you want to sell, just wait until in season.
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I had said that- I laid out the case that they have no cap space, no 1st round pick, and much bigger needs than RB.Johnny Canuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:39 am Like others have said, Pitt is unlikely to bring in a big name RB, or draft one, so Conner will be around and when healthy he's easily their best option.
Selling now would be selling low, if you want to sell, just wait until in season.
Now I think that there’s reason to be worried about Conner- here are the RBs they met with at the combine:
Taylor, Akers, CEH, Dillon, Moss
I still think that using their picks on a RB when there are more important positions to address is a dumb idea, and maybe this is a smoke screen, but that’s a lot of smoke. Might be time to move on.
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Conner is on the last year of his rookie deal, and I don't think they trust him to stay healthy. I think they will add a back somewhere, at this point.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:30 amI had said that- I laid out the case that they have no cap space, no 1st round pick, and much bigger needs than RB.Johnny Canuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:39 am Like others have said, Pitt is unlikely to bring in a big name RB, or draft one, so Conner will be around and when healthy he's easily their best option.
Selling now would be selling low, if you want to sell, just wait until in season.
Now I think that there’s reason to be worried about Conner- here are the RBs they met with at the combine:
Taylor, Akers, CEH, Dillon, Moss
I still think that using their picks on a RB when there are more important positions to address is a dumb idea, and maybe this is a smoke screen, but that’s a lot of smoke. Might be time to move on.
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The concerning thing is how many of those guys seem like day 2 guys.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:19 amConner is on the last year of his rookie deal, and I don't think they trust him to stay healthy. I think they will add a back somewhere, at this point.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:30 amI had said that- I laid out the case that they have no cap space, no 1st round pick, and much bigger needs than RB.Johnny Canuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:39 am Like others have said, Pitt is unlikely to bring in a big name RB, or draft one, so Conner will be around and when healthy he's easily their best option.
Selling now would be selling low, if you want to sell, just wait until in season.
Now I think that there’s reason to be worried about Conner- here are the RBs they met with at the combine:
Taylor, Akers, CEH, Dillon, Moss
I still think that using their picks on a RB when there are more important positions to address is a dumb idea, and maybe this is a smoke screen, but that’s a lot of smoke. Might be time to move on.
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Seems like a lather, rinse, repeat. They brought in Conner before Bell's deal was up, because I don't think they even planned on resigning him to a long term deal, and I certainly don't think they will do that for Conner, and he's obviously not worth trying to tag like Bell is.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:33 amThe concerning thing is how many of those guys seem like day 2 guys.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 9:19 amConner is on the last year of his rookie deal, and I don't think they trust him to stay healthy. I think they will add a back somewhere, at this point.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:30 am
I had said that- I laid out the case that they have no cap space, no 1st round pick, and much bigger needs than RB.
Now I think that there’s reason to be worried about Conner- here are the RBs they met with at the combine:
Taylor, Akers, CEH, Dillon, Moss
I still think that using their picks on a RB when there are more important positions to address is a dumb idea, and maybe this is a smoke screen, but that’s a lot of smoke. Might be time to move on.
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Curious what everybody’s thoughts are on Conner moving forward? What would you pay in draft picks to acquire him? Is he worth acquiring for a RB needy team?
While I doubt he’s the bell cow he appeared to be a couple of years ago, he may offer short term production for teams in need of a veteran back. I think if he lands in a decent spot and stays healthy he can provide solid production at a position that seems to be hard to fill for fantasy owners.
While I doubt he’s the bell cow he appeared to be a couple of years ago, he may offer short term production for teams in need of a veteran back. I think if he lands in a decent spot and stays healthy he can provide solid production at a position that seems to be hard to fill for fantasy owners.
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He was pretty good this year, but the Steelers just didn't run that much from what I could tell. I'm not sure what to think about Conner. I feel like he'll be a Jet.
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I do wonder if he stays on a cheap deal, I don't think he'll have teams knocking down his door chasing him and unless a lot of mocks I just can't see the Steelers taking and RB in the draft as I think they will have to go into a semi rebuild and let Big Ben go.
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If he lands in a decent spot, he may be a nice value at his current cost, but I wouldn’t expect a huge ROI.
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Re: James Conner
I traded him for the 3.6 in one league and for 2 4ths Marquez callaway and beathard in another.
I think it’s very reasonable to think he doesn’t get a job and if he does it’ll be like what Hyde or freeman got in 2020. He’s not very athletic so he’s not going to be sought after combined with his injury proneness. Not someone I’d be targeting.
I think it’s very reasonable to think he doesn’t get a job and if he does it’ll be like what Hyde or freeman got in 2020. He’s not very athletic so he’s not going to be sought after combined with his injury proneness. Not someone I’d be targeting.
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