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Re: DK value check

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:26 am

WR1 imo, but there are other worthy candidates for that title, I don't see how anyone could have him outside of the top 5 though.

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Re: DK value check

Postby CGW » Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:32 pm

Hard not to have him in the adams, hill, ajb, jj tier.

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Re: DK value check

Postby Sriracha » Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:24 pm

His ADP is #4 overall right now in Startups so if anything you're probably undervaluing him by consensus.

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Re: DK value check

Postby krtbuckeye » Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:41 pm

Top 5 WR, IMO. It would take a big overpay to move him if I owned him.
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Re: DK value check

Postby harr » Sun Feb 07, 2021 11:47 am

ravn88 wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:04 am
Rustycage wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:37 am
I've been fielding a lot of DK offers/conversations. Just wondering if I am rating him to high. I have him pegged as a late first/early second in a start up for value, and between WR 3-5. Is that about right or am I way off?
I think its a tier to high, I get all upside, but I want to see another 1000 yd season.

Just like with jefferson. I need more than a great rookie season.
But thats likely just me.
I remember when I used to say this about Davante Adams. “He’s never had 1,000 yards in a season”. I’ve been eating my words ever since. Elite talent is elite talent. Metcalf is also in a pretty decent situation with Russ as his QB for the foreseeable future. Yes, Seattle runs the ball a lot, but DK will still get his. He’s rightfully valued as a top five WR, imo.
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Re: DK value check

Postby Bronco Billy » Sun Feb 07, 2021 2:58 pm

I get the feeling that the strong majority opinion of Metcalf being top5 is a little too high for my taste. I do believe he’s a WR1, but probably fits more into the back end of that grouping. That SF game was such an outlier for him and I prefer more consistency and less spikes - unless he can hit those kinds if spikes 3-5 times a year - if I’m going to label him top 5. His youth can be as much a liability as a value commodity in dynasty leagues. We don’t have enough data to see if his performance last year is sustainable through a career, but I’m sure seeing optimism that it is.

Given what I’m seeing here, If I were a Metcalf owner I might be looking to cash in right now if I can get someone to give me WR4 +/- value.

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Re: DK value check

Postby jetsfan5757 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:52 am

If I owned him it takes an overpay to move him. I am not sure I’d pay top 3-5 wr price for him though.
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Re: DK value check

Postby Ice » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:51 am

krtbuckeye wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:41 pm
Top 5 WR, IMO. It would take a big overpay to move him if I owned him.
Pretty much; I own him in all leagues but 1 and zero interest in moving him for any WR. I would need a big overpay as well to even consider it.

Young 20 point potential players for years are the type you buy not sell. He will/should get better for the next several years and he is already a beast.
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Re: DK value check

Postby blemly » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:06 am

ravn88 wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:04 am
Rustycage wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:37 am
I've been fielding a lot of DK offers/conversations. Just wondering if I am rating him to high. I have him pegged as a late first/early second in a start up for value, and between WR 3-5. Is that about right or am I way off?
I think its a tier to high, I get all upside, but I want to see another 1000 yd season.

Just like with jefferson. I need more than a great rookie season.
But thats likely just me.
Speaking of Jefferson, what is the difference between he and DK in terms of value? To me they are more or less equal, so the value lies in whatever you can get on top of the other.
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Re: DK value check

Postby CGW » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:35 am

blemly wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:06 am
ravn88 wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:04 am
Rustycage wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:37 am
I've been fielding a lot of DK offers/conversations. Just wondering if I am rating him to high. I have him pegged as a late first/early second in a start up for value, and between WR 3-5. Is that about right or am I way off?
I think its a tier to high, I get all upside, but I want to see another 1000 yd season.

Just like with jefferson. I need more than a great rookie season.
But thats likely just me.
Speaking of Jefferson, what is the difference between he and DK in terms of value? To me they are more or less equal, so the value lies in whatever you can get on top of the other.
I think your assessment is accurate, but it's unlikely anyone would do a straight up swap either direction. Whoever is going after the other will have to add something to make it worth it for the other.

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Re: DK value check

Postby Ice » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:59 am

blemly wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:06 am
ravn88 wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:04 am
Rustycage wrote:
Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:37 am
I've been fielding a lot of DK offers/conversations. Just wondering if I am rating him to high. I have him pegged as a late first/early second in a start up for value, and between WR 3-5. Is that about right or am I way off?
I think its a tier to high, I get all upside, but I want to see another 1000 yd season.

Just like with jefferson. I need more than a great rookie season.
But thats likely just me.
Speaking of Jefferson, what is the difference between he and DK in terms of value? To me they are more or less equal, so the value lies in whatever you can get on top of the other.
They are a solid round apart for me. Jefferson was really good but he still had twice as many single digit games.

I would easily trade Jefferson away for DK straight up but no way I would do the opposite. This isn't to say Jefferson won't be great or even better someday but today he isn't DK and will never have his size or explosion profile IMO.

Both are great fantasy gets no doubt but they are a tier apart at this point IMO.
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Re: DK value check

Postby maxhyde » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:22 am

Ice wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:51 am
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Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:41 pm
Top 5 WR, IMO. It would take a big overpay to move him if I owned him.
Pretty much; I own him in all leagues but 1 and zero interest in moving him for any WR. I would need a big overpay as well to even consider it.

Young 20 point potential players for years are the type you buy not sell. He will/should get better for the next several years and he is already a beast.
Exactly I don't know why anyone would bother trading him unless the return was too good to pass up.
He and maybe AJ Brown are years ahead of any of the other top 5ish WR so if you have them keeping them is easy.

I'd have no issue with anyone putting him at WR1
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Re: DK value check

Postby Vcize » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:59 pm

In Mizelle ADP he's WR1 overall and 1.05 startup pick. You're definitely not too high on him.

If I were drafting a startup now I think DK, AJB, JJ would be the guys I was targeting to build around. I offered Tyreek/1.11 for him in one league and was rejected without counter.
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Re: DK value check

Postby StripesOfKC » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:04 pm

Vcize wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:59 pm
In Mizelle ADP he's WR1 overall and 1.05 startup pick. You're definitely not too high on him.

If I were drafting a startup now I think DK, AJB, JJ would be the guys I was targeting to build around. I offered Tyreek/1.11 for him in one league and was rejected without counter.
I love DK but the other guy saved you from yourself there IMO
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Re: DK value check

Postby CGW » Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:55 am

StripesOfKC wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:04 pm
Vcize wrote:
Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:59 pm
In Mizelle ADP he's WR1 overall and 1.05 startup pick. You're definitely not too high on him.

If I were drafting a startup now I think DK, AJB, JJ would be the guys I was targeting to build around. I offered Tyreek/1.11 for him in one league and was rejected without counter.
I love DK but the other guy saved you from yourself there IMO
I don't disagree. 1.05 overall for a WR hurts me a little. I'd be trading back to get a guy I like just as much in the same tier in AJB, JJ, or even Hill.


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