We're like opposite sides of the same coin.Ice wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:18 amDarnold is not a Franchise QB.
Case in point; He is now being compared to a player that has been benched who has had a similarly terrible season.
No telling what the Jets do since they are a historically bad team but; Based on the reality that he plays like a backup type QB the Jets would be foolish not to try again for a legitimate Franchise QB.
The NFL is a What have you done for me lately league..
Darnold as a starting QB:
59.6% career completion percentage
44 TD's / 37 INT's, 7 Fumbles Lost
QB Rating 78.6
Sack % 7.4
The Jets took a swing and missed. He is at or near the bottom this season in most categories including Yards per attempt, QB Rating and QBR. Those 3 stats alone are bench forever numbers as a legitimate starter given they rank 36,36, & 34th in the NFL.
You see nothing but the horror show #'s.
I see nothing but the horror show organization, bottom 3 in the NFL his entire NFL career, bottom 2-3 coaching staff since they fired Bowles after his rookie year, and bottom 3-4 supporting cast for a QB in the league his final two seasons.
You're not looking at the nuance which is that nearly all quality QB's have elite supporting casts which explains a good chunk of the success and nearly all awful QB's have terrible supporting casts which certainly must play a role (as does terrible coaching which he also has).
All that being said, there's no evidence that Darnold could actually be good or great, he's never been other than the finale month of his rookie season which is a tiny sample size that can be excused away as mere randomness, but it does seem telling that the one stretch of his career where he wasn't awful was when he had two reasonable starting WR's in Enunwa and Robby Anderson, a legit TE in Herndon, and competent RB play and blocking upfront before the OL was let go piece by piece in the ensuing offseasons plus in Bowles he had a legit coach that year, as compared to laughing stock Case.
Still, '18 was solid, '19 and '20 were god awful at best, so definitely no evidence yet beyond what he did in college that he's any good.
I just think when you're digging around looking for QB's that might be better than advertised, you can see that Darnold dealt with exactly the same thing Tannehill did while he was a nothing '12-'18, and that was totally incompetent coaching, and awful offenses, heck they even had the same idiot coach in Gase though Tannehill can only blame him for '16-'18, and not '12-'15 (then again his coach in stage 1 sucked too).
It's a roll of the dice, no doubt, no proof, but I'd go after Darnold on the cheap in fantasy (especially superflex/2QB) and if my terrible redskins make the playoffs, Darnold will be one of the only potential solutions to the QB problems since they will have played themselves out of a trade up or at slot drafting of Lance/Wilson. My only concern as a Redskins/WFT fan w/Darnold as a booby prize is that his rookie deal is done soon, and it doesn't sound like the Jets would be willing to trade him at a commensurate discount acknowledging that fact. Unless I can get Darnold for a Day 3 pick, and an extension on the cheap, I have no interest as a real pro football team. 3 of his seasons are in the can, only 1+an extension are left. Not enough to justify paying much if you're a real team in terms of trade assets for him. You can always sign him as a FA in '22 or '23 if he shows anything or doesn't after all, and avoid giving up any comp of note. I wonder what the Jets are gonna be asking for? Ditto the Jags if they try to trade Minchew.