Sam Darnold going forward
Sam Darnold going forward
Thoughts on Sam? He is a young player going into year four and will be 24 years old. Worth a hold our cut bait?
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Re: Sam Darnold going forward
Not gonna completely rule out him turning it around, but I have zero interest in him and didn't like him to begin with.
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Re: Sam Darnold going forward
He’s on my roster and not holding much value until we see some post draft QB fallout so...



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Re: Sam Darnold going forward
In SF leagues I think he has value . Not a given the jets take Sam darnold. Might trade back, they might take the the Oregon tackle. If they do draft fields darnold will likely at least get one more shot else where as well
Re: Sam Darnold going forward
In a league where QBs are at a premium, he is worth a hold. Who knows what the jets will decide to do.
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Re: Sam Darnold going forward
In my opinion, Joe Douglas has the Jets in a complete tear down and is in the beginning stages of his rebuild. 2019 was his first draft. I do not think 2020 is the right time to bring in a rookie developmental QB and doubt that the Jets do. I think it's 50/50 the Jets franchise Darnold. He is not worth it, but it gives the Jets 1 more year to evaluate him, and protection if they decide to keep him. I don't think the 5th year would prevent the Jets looking at QB in 2022 if the situation presents itself.
If the Jets keep him, I'd expect they bring in a professional WR as the #1, while hopefully building solid depth. So in SF, he is certainly a hold, as he is still a starting QB.
If the Jets keep him, I'd expect they bring in a professional WR as the #1, while hopefully building solid depth. So in SF, he is certainly a hold, as he is still a starting QB.
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Re: Sam Darnold going forward
It's always the time to take QB if you need one and have the opportunity to take one, there's no guarantee they have the opportunity to take one in the next couple of years that's as good or better than the options available to them this year.remedy29 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:33 amIn my opinion, Joe Douglas has the Jets in a complete tear down and is in the beginning stages of his rebuild. 2019 was his first draft. I do not think 2020 is the right time to bring in a rookie developmental QB and doubt that the Jets do. I think it's 50/50 the Jets franchise Darnold. He is not worth it, but it gives the Jets 1 more year to evaluate him, and protection if they decide to keep him. I don't think the 5th year would prevent the Jets looking at QB in 2022 if the situation presents itself.
If the Jets keep him, I'd expect they bring in a professional WR as the #1, while hopefully building solid depth. So in SF, he is certainly a hold, as he is still a starting QB.
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Re: Sam Darnold going forward
He's in a dangerous position of either being a backup next season or a lame duck starter (even if he's traded).
So, even with Gase gone, his long-term future doesn't seem encouraging.
So, even with Gase gone, his long-term future doesn't seem encouraging.
Re: Sam Darnold going forward
For sure, if they value a QB highly, take one. But after NYJ miss out on Lawrence, it is going to be difficult to bring in any QB this year, as he will forever be compared to Lawrence. Joe Douglas will be reminded that the Jets should have "tanked", even though that's a ridiculous expectation for a professional team. It's just the Jets luck, where 1 win doesn't even get them the #1 pick.bjd5211 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:39 amIt's always the time to take QB if you need one and have the opportunity to take one, there's no guarantee they have the opportunity to take one in the next couple of years that's as good or better than the options available to them this year.remedy29 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:33 amIn my opinion, Joe Douglas has the Jets in a complete tear down and is in the beginning stages of his rebuild. 2019 was his first draft. I do not think 2020 is the right time to bring in a rookie developmental QB and doubt that the Jets do. I think it's 50/50 the Jets franchise Darnold. He is not worth it, but it gives the Jets 1 more year to evaluate him, and protection if they decide to keep him. I don't think the 5th year would prevent the Jets looking at QB in 2022 if the situation presents itself.
If the Jets keep him, I'd expect they bring in a professional WR as the #1, while hopefully building solid depth. So in SF, he is certainly a hold, as he is still a starting QB.
There are several QB prospects after Lawrence, but none of them are special. Jets have 2 #1 picks in 2022, there is no urgency to get a QB now while they still have control of a QB on his rookie contract.
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Re: Sam Darnold going forward
Darnolds a great value target or hold guy. His coaches have been abysmal and done him no favors. I think the best thing is to see him leave the Jets and get a shot somewhere. QB's escaping Gase have had a tendency to suddenly do better, Tannehill agrees.
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Re: Sam Darnold going forward
Good feedback, and Tannehill seems to fully agree. The post has some good points. To hold as a roster bubble going into 21 seems like a fair outlook. Young guy, would be good to see what protection, RB weapons, and coaching could bring.
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Re: Sam Darnold going forward
I liked him coming out and still think he is a good quarterback. I think his weapons have been bad and his coaching staff has been bad. The mono hurt his development. He has flashed at times but the situation has just been so poor. If roster space was no issue then I would not mind having him. My dynasty roster just does not need him so I would not pay anything for him which means I will not own him anytime soon.
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Re: Sam Darnold going forward
Career backup with short starting stints. The new Case Keenum.
Don't cut him for no reason. Depends on roster and league size.
Don't cut him for no reason. Depends on roster and league size.
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Re: Sam Darnold going forward
Never a fan but in SF there is some value. Like him in a Dalton kind of way. Marginal starter but solid backup. Not roster worthy in many single start QB leagues of 12 or less.
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Re: Sam Darnold going forward
I knew nothing about him and sold him high near the end of his rookie year but as a Dolphins fan I see him often enough I think he could still be a solid starter in the league. There are certainly some current starters he could compete with in camp. Washington or SF moving on from Jimmy G for a cheaper option that can actually threaten deep both could pop on a cheap Darnold experiment.
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