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2020 Draft Class

Postby blauria3 » Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:21 pm

I've only been playing dynasty for the last 2 1/2 years. 2020 draft class seems to be producing some great players. I'm curious to hear how you all think it measures up to the others from the last decade?

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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby nathanq42 » Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:26 pm

So far its up there. Now we just have to see who the late bloomers are and who flames out. But when it is all said and done I reckon it'll be pretty up there (at least offensively)
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QB Gardner Minshew, Ryan Tannehill
RB CEH, Josh Jacobs, JK Dobbins, D'Andre Swift, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon
WR Mike Evans, Odell Beckham Junior, DJ Moore, Chris Godwin, Preston Williams, Bryan Edwards, James Washington, Van Jefferson
TE TJ Hockenson, Darren Waller
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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby Pac_Eddy » Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:53 pm

Yeah, 2020 is a rare class in that there are a LOT of hits from the way it looks already. Most years you don't have a good feel for another year or so, but this one has been nuts despite no or shortened off-season practices.
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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby Chwf3rd » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:16 pm

2017 will be hard to beat.

QB
Patrick Mahomes
Deshaun Watson

RB
Leonard Fournette
Dalvin Cook
Alvin Kamara
Joe Mixon
Christian McCaffery
Kareem Hunt
Aaron Jones
Chris Carson
Marlon Mack
James Conner
Tarik Cohen

WR
Kenny Golliday
Chris Godwin
JuJu Smith
Cooper Kupp
Corey Davis
Mike Williams

TE
George Kittle
Evan Engram
Jonnu Smith
OJ Howard
David Njoku
Blake Jarwin
Gerald Everett
Team 1 - 12 team PPR
QB: MRyan, PRivers
RB: AKamara, JMixon, DHenderson, LMcCoy, RArmstead, TPollard
WR: ACooper, SDiggs, CSamuel, AJGreen, SWatkins, AMiller, DiJohnson, ZPascal
TE: MAndrews, ISmith, KWarring
Record: 4-6
Picks: 1, 1, 1

Team 2 - 12 team, PPR, superflex
QB: MStafford, SDarnold, DJones, BRoethlisberger, ALuck
RB: DCook, PLindsay, TColeman, DSingletary, JWhite, DFreeman, CHyde, MWalton, RMostert, MGaskin, QOllison
WR: DAdams, MEvans, SDiggs, DSamuel, SWatkins, MHardman, GAllison
TE: JDoyle, TBurton, DKnox, DFells, KWarring
Record: 6-4
Picks: 1, 2, 2

Team 3 - 12 team, PPR, 2QB, 2TE
QB: DWatson, CWentz, MStafford, DJones, ALuck
RB: NChubb, DMontgomery, SMichel, KDrake, CHyde, TJohnson, MWalton, KBallage, CThompson, JDMcKissic, QOllison
WR: THill, DAdams, SDiggs, DSamuel, PCampbell, DiJohnson, JCrowder, JWashington, ALazard, ATate
TE: GKittle, HHenry, TJHock, KWarring
Record: 8-2
Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2

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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:25 pm

Interesting, I don't see 2020 as being all that incredible overall. Really exciting QBs, and some very good WRs, but virtually nothing at TE (which was expected) and incredibly disappointing RB performances. A UDFA is balling out, and Gibson has produced a ton of TDs and has played above expectations for sure, but CEH/Taylor/Dobbins/Swift/Akers have all delivered more heartburn than thrills. Moss has been decent. Dillon has predictably been a complete zero.
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BOTH TEAMS BELOW ARE 1QB

TEAM A - 12 teams (19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Brees, Tua, Wentz
COOK/JACOBS/MIXON, Dobbins, Swift, Hunt, Singletary, Bell, B Hill, Wilkins
NUK/HILL/GOLLADAY/K ALLEN, Diontae J, Hollywood, Ruggs, Pittman, Hilton, G Davis, Snead
KITTLE, Waller, Akins, H Bryant
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Not listing my IDP, but they matter as much as offense in this league. Joey Bosa, Buckner, Sweat, and Cam Jordan are my main studs.
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TEAM B - 32 teams, double copy - TEs get 1.5x bump in scoring
LAMAR, Cousins, Rivers, J Love
SAQUON/MIXON/CARSON, Dobbins, Lindsay, Mattison, Ingram, D Freeman, Clement
NUK/K ALLEN/JULIO/AROB, Evans, Thielen, DJ Moore, Lamb, Boyd, Coutee, Alshon
KITTLE/L Thomas, Ertz, Reed
Danielle Hunter, Aaron Donald, and Chris Jones are the cornerstones of my IDP squad.

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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby JOHNNY_COCKTAIL » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:26 pm

Definitely a WR class for the ages I don’t see how more than a couple of the following guys bust at most between lamb, jeudy, Ruggs, Higgins, Jefferson, reagor, mims, shenault, claypool, Pittman, and aiyuk

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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby CGW » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:38 pm

Solid class overall. Probably not as good as the 2017, but we will see in a few years. Definitely has the star potential across all positions except TE.

QB- Herbert and Burrow look like franchise starters. Tua could very well be in the conversation sooner than later.

WR- JJ having a historic rookie year. Lamb, Aiyuk, Claypool, Higgins all look like potential stars. A handful of others aren't far behind just dealing with setbacks, mims, Pittman, reagor, jeudy.

RB - CEH, Taylor, Swift, Dobbins have all flashed. Maybe hasn't been up to the hype, but there will be some top end RBs from this list if not all four. Gibson and Robinson have both been nice surprises. Akers and moss could still do just fine too.

TE- they rarely break out early and it's pretty uncommon most years to get a stud. I never draft TEs anyway.
12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Cousins, Trubisky, Flacco, Haskins
RB | Taylor, Elliott, Akers, Wilkins, Wilson
WR | Adams, Evans, Golladay, Diontae, Mooney, Pascal, Coutee, R Higgins
TE | Andrews, Alie-Cox, Rodgers, Herndon

10 Team | SF | PPR
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

QB | Murray, Tagovailoa, Minshew
RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, R. Jones, Singletary, Vaughn
WR | Godwin, AJ Brown, Lamb, D. Johnson, Aiyuk, M. Brown, Slayton, Mooney, Kirk, Reynolds, Fulgham, Peoples-Jones, Perriman
TE | Andrews, Henry, Sample, Schultz

12 Team | SF | PPR | 6pt pass TD
QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

QB | Watson, Wilson, Darnold, Trubisky, Glennon, Stidham
RB | Hines, Henderson, Wilkins, Penny, Ahmed, Guice
WR | Evans, Ridley, Golladay, Kupp, D. Johnson, Pittman, Fulgham, Mooney, Ward, T. Smith
TE | L. Thomas, Ertz, Herndon, Sternberger

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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby briank » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:45 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:25 pm
Interesting, I don't see 2020 as being all that incredible overall. Really exciting QBs, and some very good WRs, but virtually nothing at TE (which was expected) and incredibly disappointing RB performances. A UDFA is balling out, and Gibson has produced a ton of TDs and has played above expectations for sure, but CEH/Taylor/Dobbins/Swift/Akers have all delivered more heartburn than thrills. Moss has been decent. Dillon has predictably been a complete zero.
Way too early to make judgments on this TE class. I see a world where a couple of Trautman, Kmet, Bryant, Albert O and maybe others turn into fantasy relevant players. We've seen flashes from all of these guys in their rookie year.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Wilson
RB Mixon/Ja. Williams/Bernard/Davis
WR Thomas/DJ Moore/Robinson/TY/Washington
TE Kelce/Ertz/Cook
Picks 1.03

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Roethlisberger/Fitzpatrick
RB Barkley/Zeke/Mixon/Dillon/Ja. Williams
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Lockett/Cooks/Fuller
TE Kittle/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Burrow/Dalton
RB Jacobs/Penny/Dillon/Edwards
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Allen/Woods/Boyd
TE Kittle/Henry/Njoku/Irv Smith

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 11
QB Jackson/Roethlisberger/Brees
RB Da. Johnson/Gurley
WR Adams/Hopkins/Julio/Thielen/Hilton
TE Kelce/Ertz

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Goff
RB
WR Jefferson/Juju/Sutton/Juedy/DSamuel
TE Kittle/Fant/Njoku
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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby briank » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:46 pm

CGW wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:38 pm
Solid class overall. Probably not as good as the 2017, but we will see in a few years. Definitely has the star potential across all positions except TE.

QB- Herbert and Burrow look like franchise starters. Tua could very well be in the conversation sooner than later.

WR- JJ having a historic rookie year. Lamb, Aiyuk, Claypool, Higgins all look like potential stars. A handful of others aren't far behind just dealing with setbacks, mims, Pittman, reagor, jeudy.

RB - CEH, Taylor, Swift, Dobbins have all flashed. Maybe hasn't been up to the hype, but there will be some top end RBs from this list if not all four. Gibson and Robinson have both been nice surprises. Akers and moss could still do just fine too.

TE- they rarely break out early and it's pretty uncommon most years to get a stud. I never draft TEs anyway.
Love and Hurts could enter the conversation at QB too.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Wilson
RB Mixon/Ja. Williams/Bernard/Davis
WR Thomas/DJ Moore/Robinson/TY/Washington
TE Kelce/Ertz/Cook
Picks 1.03

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Roethlisberger/Fitzpatrick
RB Barkley/Zeke/Mixon/Dillon/Ja. Williams
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Lockett/Cooks/Fuller
TE Kittle/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Burrow/Dalton
RB Jacobs/Penny/Dillon/Edwards
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Allen/Woods/Boyd
TE Kittle/Henry/Njoku/Irv Smith

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 11
QB Jackson/Roethlisberger/Brees
RB Da. Johnson/Gurley
WR Adams/Hopkins/Julio/Thielen/Hilton
TE Kelce/Ertz

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Goff
RB
WR Jefferson/Juju/Sutton/Juedy/DSamuel
TE Kittle/Fant/Njoku
1.01/1.02/1.04/1.06/1.07/1.10, 6 2021 2nds

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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby Sriracha » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:04 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:25 pm
Interesting, I don't see 2020 as being all that incredible overall. Really exciting QBs, and some very good WRs, but virtually nothing at TE (which was expected) and incredibly disappointing RB performances. A UDFA is balling out, and Gibson has produced a ton of TDs and has played above expectations for sure, but CEH/Taylor/Dobbins/Swift/Akers have all delivered more heartburn than thrills. Moss has been decent. Dillon has predictably been a complete zero.
It's not quite as good as the 2017 class, yet. But there is still plenty of time for players to emerge.

Slow starters Jonathan Taylor and Cam Akers could still emerge as studs. James Robinson... yea, I think at this point we say screw the draft capital and just admit he's a legitimate talent that slept through the cracks because he went to a small school. Gibson, at this point is a legitimate talent as well scoring TDs on one of the worst offenses in the NFL. I don't have a lot of hope for Zack Moss as a stud, but AJD really hasn't gotten a chance to show much of anything.

The WRs have been amazing and again.. there are WRs that could still emerge down the line (a few I honestly expect to emerge).

TE's -- well.. you never see these guys hit the ground running. No superstars, but a lot of guys on IR and Trautman has at least shown up.

QB -- Burrow, Herbert, Tua are all promising franchise QBs. We'll see about Hurts in the coming weeks. And Jordan Love could still emerge (as much as people want to make fun of him.. lest we forget that Mahomes also spent most of his rookie season as the 3rd string QB).

Has the makings of a great class. We'll see how great in the coming years.

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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby jordanzs » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:09 pm

So far so good, but remember that guys do flame out after flashing.

The 2009 draft class is a perfect example.

Remember Knowshon, Beanie Wells, Shonn Greene, Hakeem Nicks, Percy Harvin, Kenny Britt?

Meanwhile some guys had long term holding power. LeSean, Crabtree, Maclin, etc.

Nicks....what a shame that injuries did him in. I remember him going as a top 2 dynasty WR right behind Megatron.

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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby Sriracha » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:13 pm

jordanzs wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:09 pm
So far so good, but remember that guys do flame out after flashing.

The 2009 draft class is a perfect example.

Remember Knowshon, Beanie Wells, Shonn Greene, Hakeem Nicks, Percy Harvin, Kenny Britt?

Meanwhile some guys had long term holding power. LeSean, Crabtree, Maclin, etc.

Nicks....what a shame that injuries did him in. I remember him going as a top 2 dynasty WR right behind Megatron.
Kenny Britt didn't have a great rookie season. Neither did Beanie. Knowshow reminds me a lot of CEH :lol:

Hakeem Nicks.. man.. Sammy Watkins.. why the hell do these teams let these super stars try to play on a Lisfranc Injury????

Percy Harvin and those migraines were also just really unlucky...

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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby Cameron Giles » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:37 pm

Surprised nobody mentioned 2014, given the similarities in a deep WR-led class (though 2014 was much heavier)

2014: Beckham, Evans, Watkins, Robinson, Benjamin, Cooks, Landry, Adams, J. Brown, Matthews

2020: Jefferson, Lamb, Claypool, Aiyuk, Higgins, Jeudy, Mims, Reagor

Biggest difference is that 2014 basically changed the game as far as what people expect from rookies right away. It wasn't normal to see so many WRs be so good or flash that quickly.

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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby Sriracha » Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:04 pm

Cameron Giles wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:37 pm
Surprised nobody mentioned 2014, given the similarities in a deep WR-led class (though 2014 was much heavier)

2014: Beckham, Evans, Watkins, Robinson, Benjamin, Cooks, Landry, Adams, J. Brown, Matthews

2020: Jefferson, Lamb, Claypool, Aiyuk, Higgins, Jeudy, Mims, Reagor

Biggest difference is that 2014 basically changed the game as far as what people expect from rookies right away. It wasn't normal to see so many WRs be so good or flash that quickly.
Very true, we saw the echo from that year reverberate for a while with so many WR's being drafted early in the 1st round.. even though they were far inferior talents.

It's not just fantasy players that trick themselves into thinking outlier years are the beginning of a new trend.

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Re: 2020 Draft Class

Postby Chwf3rd » Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:24 pm

Cameron Giles wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:37 pm
Surprised nobody mentioned 2014, given the similarities in a deep WR-led class (though 2014 was much heavier)

2014: Beckham, Evans, Watkins, Robinson, Benjamin, Cooks, Landry, Adams, J. Brown, Matthews

2020: Jefferson, Lamb, Claypool, Aiyuk, Higgins, Jeudy, Mims, Reagor

Biggest difference is that 2014 basically changed the game as far as what people expect from rookies right away. It wasn't normal to see so many WRs be so good or flash that quickly.
2014 is the best WR class but a really bad RB class and didn't deliver any great QBs.
Team 1 - 12 team PPR
QB: MRyan, PRivers
RB: AKamara, JMixon, DHenderson, LMcCoy, RArmstead, TPollard
WR: ACooper, SDiggs, CSamuel, AJGreen, SWatkins, AMiller, DiJohnson, ZPascal
TE: MAndrews, ISmith, KWarring
Record: 4-6
Picks: 1, 1, 1

Team 2 - 12 team, PPR, superflex
QB: MStafford, SDarnold, DJones, BRoethlisberger, ALuck
RB: DCook, PLindsay, TColeman, DSingletary, JWhite, DFreeman, CHyde, MWalton, RMostert, MGaskin, QOllison
WR: DAdams, MEvans, SDiggs, DSamuel, SWatkins, MHardman, GAllison
TE: JDoyle, TBurton, DKnox, DFells, KWarring
Record: 6-4
Picks: 1, 2, 2

Team 3 - 12 team, PPR, 2QB, 2TE
QB: DWatson, CWentz, MStafford, DJones, ALuck
RB: NChubb, DMontgomery, SMichel, KDrake, CHyde, TJohnson, MWalton, KBallage, CThompson, JDMcKissic, QOllison
WR: THill, DAdams, SDiggs, DSamuel, PCampbell, DiJohnson, JCrowder, JWashington, ALazard, ATate
TE: GKittle, HHenry, TJHock, KWarring
Record: 8-2
Picks: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2


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