I am considering the same between he and Brady and Tua (vs. Raiders) in one of my main leagues...in my other main league I will be going against him ugh.Major_Loser wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:59 am So I'm thinking about starting Jalen in the championship round due to the Dallas matchup...I have Brady and Tannehill. Am I chugging the Koolaid too fast?
Jalen Hurts: What's the verdict?
Re: Jalen Hurts
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RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
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RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
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1996 | 2005 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2017 –
1999 | 2000 | 2019 | 2020 –
14 team | 4 keepers | non ppr | est. 1996
QB –
RB – Christian McCaffrey | Josh Jacobs
WR – AJ Brown | CeeDee Lamb
TE –
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2011 | 2013 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018 | 2020 –
2008 | 2012 | 2014 | 2019 –
12 team | 10 keepers | non ppr | est. 2001
QB – Joe Burrow
RB – Tony Pollard | Kenneth Walker III | Rhamondre Stevenson
WR – Justin Jefferson | Stefon Diggs | DK Metcalf | Tee Higgins | Jameson Williams
TE – Trey McBride
Overall 2024 Regular Season Record: 0 – 0
Re: Jalen Hurts
Koolaid man. Hes completing 54% of his passes and has 7 fumbles.Major_Loser wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:59 am So I'm thinking about starting Jalen in the championship round due to the Dallas matchup...I have Brady and Tannehill. Am I chugging the Koolaid too fast?
Hes been a much needed spark, but I'd stick with what got you there.
Re: Jalen Hurts
I'd be starting Hurts. I think he has the highest upside. Tanne is in GB so I don't like that as much. You could go Brady vs the Lions but Hurts gives you rushing upside tooMajor_Loser wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:59 am So I'm thinking about starting Jalen in the championship round due to the Dallas matchup...I have Brady and Tannehill. Am I chugging the Koolaid too fast?
Re: Jalen Hurts
I've only seen a bit of his games but have noticed the completion % and YPA. Had the chance to buy him several weeks back but I didn't even like him as a QB at Alabama.CGW wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:18 amKoolaid man. Hes completing 54% of his passes and has 7 fumbles.Major_Loser wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:59 am So I'm thinking about starting Jalen in the championship round due to the Dallas matchup...I have Brady and Tannehill. Am I chugging the Koolaid too fast?
Hes been a much needed spark, but I'd stick with what got you there.
Real curious if he keeps this up.
14 Team Super Flex, 1 PPR
QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1 Flex, 1 SFlex, 3 IR
QB: Davis Mills, Kenny Pickett, Sam Darnold, Matt Corral
WR: Chris Godwin, A.J Brown, D.K. Metcalf, Jerry Jeudy, Jalen Reagor, Allen Lazard, K.J. Osborn, Skyy Moore, Tutu Atwell, Greg Dortch
RB: Josh Jacobs, Khalil Herbert, Tyson Chandler, Ronald Jones, K Gainwell
TE: Robert Tonyan, David Njoku, Jonnu Smith, Gerald Everett, Jelani Woods
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2024: 1
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WR: Chris Godwin, A.J Brown, D.K. Metcalf, Jerry Jeudy, Jalen Reagor, Allen Lazard, K.J. Osborn, Skyy Moore, Tutu Atwell, Greg Dortch
RB: Josh Jacobs, Khalil Herbert, Tyson Chandler, Ronald Jones, K Gainwell
TE: Robert Tonyan, David Njoku, Jonnu Smith, Gerald Everett, Jelani Woods
2023: 1.05, 1.08
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Re: Jalen Hurts
I've warmed to him, it's just not a gamble I want to make in the playoffs over two guys who have put up solid numbers all year. Caveat- if I'm an underdog I'd go with the gamble of upside with Hurts.burntfire wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:59 amI've only seen a bit of his games but have noticed the completion % and YPA. Had the chance to buy him several weeks back but I didn't even like him as a QB at Alabama.CGW wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:18 amKoolaid man. Hes completing 54% of his passes and has 7 fumbles.Major_Loser wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:59 am So I'm thinking about starting Jalen in the championship round due to the Dallas matchup...I have Brady and Tannehill. Am I chugging the Koolaid too fast?
Hes been a much needed spark, but I'd stick with what got you there.
Real curious if he keeps this up.
Re: Jalen Hurts
To refocus this to slightly longer-term, though... I really do think the Eagles have got their 2021 guy here.
I always had a sneaky feeling about him, and his final college game being a blowout loss at the hands of Burrow and the greatest College offense of all time... I think that did a lot to throw us off the scent, when perhaps it wasn't altogether fair. Keeping up in a shootout like that is not going to be his game long-term (to say nothing of the "defense" OU was rolling out in that game) - even though yesterday's shoutout with the Cards was wildly entertaining, and I thought he acquitted himself amazingly well and showed a ceiling that I wasn't sure was there.
This is a guy that has had a lot of adversity already (benchings, transfers, etc) and is a coaches son. His poise and character is great, and that's coming in clear via his teammates' comments too. He's always kept his head up, and he keeps grinding and just getting it done. I love young guys like that.
Say what we like about PFF, but they had him as the #2 graded QB in last year's CFB season. Obviously, that's because they are primarily using counting stats over the eye test - but still, we must give him some credit: no-one outside of Burrow accounted for more TD's last CFB season. That's got to count for something... and it appears to be carrying over. No-one will confuse this guy for mega-YOLO-bomb Herbert, but I do think there's a chance he could give Tua a run for the #3 QB spot in this class as we go forward.
Fun completely non-predictive stat #1:
Jalen Hurts is the first player in NFL history with 500 Pass yards and 150 Rush yards in his first two career starts. -- Elias
And I'll leave this with "fun, completely unsustainable and non-predictive stat" #2... via B Solak - Jalen Hurts on pressure downs is a f-in' gamer:
Jalen Hurts has 4 passing TDs this year and they are on:
3rd and 22
4th and 3
4th and 2
4th and 18
Re: Jalen Hurts
So, What is Hurts worth this offseason in superflex assuming he finishes strong?
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
Re: Jalen Hurts
Starting Hurts against Dallas may not be the wisest move when Tannehill is available.
Dallas and Philly play each other close and it is usually a defensive game. Tannehill is playing close to a MVP level these days. He is deadly in play action and Henry is so good GB will bite plenty.
Dallas and Philly play each other close and it is usually a defensive game. Tannehill is playing close to a MVP level these days. He is deadly in play action and Henry is so good GB will bite plenty.
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Re: Jalen Hurts
This is definitely the sane answer I needed.Ice wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:24 pm Starting Hurts against Dallas may not be the wisest move when Tannehill is available.
Dallas and Philly play each other close and it is usually a defensive game. Tannehill is playing close to a MVP level these days. He is deadly in play action and Henry is so good GB will bite plenty.
Team 1
12 team .5 PPR league
1 Qb, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE
QB: Herbert, Tannehill
RB: Josh Jacobs, Dobbins, Charbs, Ford
WR: Chase, Waddle, AJB, Mike Evans, Michael Thomas, Rashid Shaheed
TE: Waller, Chig, Njoku
12 team .5 PPR league
1 Qb, 1 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE
QB: Herbert, Tannehill
RB: Josh Jacobs, Dobbins, Charbs, Ford
WR: Chase, Waddle, AJB, Mike Evans, Michael Thomas, Rashid Shaheed
TE: Waller, Chig, Njoku
Re: Jalen Hurts
The answer is "a lot more" if the Eagles trade Wentz, or outright announce they're going with Hurts in 2021 this offseason. (Which would mean Wentz asks for a trade, according to his recent quotes, so it's same-same result)
Now is the speculation buy window for Hurts if you're considering it. It'll jump sharply if he locks the job down fully. If you're thinking of selling, he's most definitely a hold based on what we're seeing of his play out there. This really could be "Lamar with a better arm" for our fantasy purposes.
Re: Jalen Hurts
It sounds like holding him until Wentz is gone, or declared the backup is a good idea. I have him on a team loaded at QB, so I'll be shopping him if he's the starter next year. This team already has Mahomes, Murray, and Burrow.mild wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:41 pmThe answer is "a lot more" if the Eagles trade Wentz, or outright announce they're going with Hurts in 2021 this offseason. (Which would mean Wentz asks for a trade, according to his recent quotes, so it's same-same result)
Now is the speculation buy window for Hurts if you're considering it. It'll jump sharply if he locks the job down fully. If you're thinking of selling, he's most definitely a hold based on what we're seeing of his play out there. This really could be "Lamar with a better arm" for our fantasy purposes.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
Re: Jalen Hurts
I saw the writing on the wall for Wentz and snapped up Hurts off the wire for free in a 10 team 1 qb league. I've been hurting at QB since Dak went down and have been platooning Teddy and eventually Taysom. Only started Hurts this week because Taysom wasn't starting and boy howdy.
Earlier in the season I offered Diontae Johnson and AJ Dillon for Justin Herbert, which was rejected. The guy wound up accepting a late 2nd (2.09) and Devin Singletary for Herbert. I kept searching for a Dak fill in to improve over Teddy and stumbled onto Hurts that way really. Might turn out to be the best trade rejection I've ever had. Doesn't make me feel great that I'm playing against Herbert in the championship this week though. Going to be interesting starting the WW QB I grabbed because I couldn't trade for the guy who is starting against me now.
Earlier in the season I offered Diontae Johnson and AJ Dillon for Justin Herbert, which was rejected. The guy wound up accepting a late 2nd (2.09) and Devin Singletary for Herbert. I kept searching for a Dak fill in to improve over Teddy and stumbled onto Hurts that way really. Might turn out to be the best trade rejection I've ever had. Doesn't make me feel great that I'm playing against Herbert in the championship this week though. Going to be interesting starting the WW QB I grabbed because I couldn't trade for the guy who is starting against me now.
QBs: Dak Prescott, Teddy Bridgewater, Taysom Hill, Jameis Winston, Jalen Hurts, Andy Dalton
RBS: CMC, Miles Sanders, Gurley, JK Dobbins, AJ Dillon, Lamical Perine, Ito Smith
WRS: Godwin, DJ Moore, Juju, Keenan Allen, Diggs, McLaurin, Dionte Johnson, Jalen Reagor, Bryan Edwards, Brandon Aiyuk, Tim Patrick
TEs: Mark Andrews, TJ Hockenson, Irv Smith
DEF:Miami
RBS: CMC, Miles Sanders, Gurley, JK Dobbins, AJ Dillon, Lamical Perine, Ito Smith
WRS: Godwin, DJ Moore, Juju, Keenan Allen, Diggs, McLaurin, Dionte Johnson, Jalen Reagor, Bryan Edwards, Brandon Aiyuk, Tim Patrick
TEs: Mark Andrews, TJ Hockenson, Irv Smith
DEF:Miami
Re: Jalen Hurts
Considering Hurts went in the 3rd+ of every SF/2QB draft I was in, I'd imagine AT LEAST an early 2nd...maybe just due in part to Wentz' situation but you could easily see him be worth at least a 1st if he continues to ball + Wentz goes bye-bye.
Konami Code QB's man, hard to bet against them this day and age, it looks like.
Re: Jalen Hurts
He went in the 2nd in every league I'm in. I wouldn't trade him for less than a 1st. Maybe for less than 12 team leagues.Servo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:35 pmConsidering Hurts went in the 3rd+ of every SF/2QB draft I was in, I'd imagine AT LEAST an early 2nd...maybe just due in part to Wentz' situation but you could easily see him be worth at least a 1st if he continues to ball + Wentz goes bye-bye.
Konami Code QB's man, hard to bet against them this day and age, it looks like.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts
12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
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Re: Jalen Hurts
Yea I got him in the 5th in a 1qb league, and I wouldn't sell for anything less than a 2ndbriank wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:06 pmHe went in the 2nd in every league I'm in. I wouldn't trade him for less than a 1st. Maybe for less than 12 team leagues.Servo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:35 pmConsidering Hurts went in the 3rd+ of every SF/2QB draft I was in, I'd imagine AT LEAST an early 2nd...maybe just due in part to Wentz' situation but you could easily see him be worth at least a 1st if he continues to ball + Wentz goes bye-bye.
Konami Code QB's man, hard to bet against them this day and age, it looks like.
12 man IDP 0.5 ppr
QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
Bench:
QB: Mac Jones/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
DB: Mathieu/Jonothan Owens
QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
Bench:
QB: Mac Jones/Bryce Young
RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
LB: Milano/Edwards/K. Murray/J. Smith
DB: Mathieu/Jonothan Owens
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