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Miles Sanders?

Postby Flatlander19 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:34 pm

What's everyone's thoughts on him after yesterday's game? I didn't watch it but his stats and usage don't look good. Is it a good time to buy low or avoid?
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12 team PPR 1QB, 2RB,3WR,1TE, flex
QB Garoppollo, Haskins
RB Barkley, Mack, Ingram,T Coleman, Justice Hill, Wilkins, Gallman,E Benjamin
WR Mclaurin, Sutton, Hardman, Preston Williams, P Campbell, Reagor, Jeffrey, Trent Taylor
TE Kittle, Walker, Tonyan, I Thomas
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10 team Half PPR 1QB, 2 RB, 3WR, 2 Flex, 1 TE
QB J Allen, Mayfield
RB Zeke, Jacobs, CEH, Sanders Drake, Rojo, Penny
WR Evans, DJ Moore, Mclaurin, Davis, Fuller, Campbell, P Williams, Edwards
TE Engram, Hockenson, Hurst
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10 team Non PPR 1QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1Flex, 1TE, 1 K, 1Def
QB Wilson, Brees, Garropolo
RB Mixon, Sanders, Conner, A Jones, Coleman, Armstead, Pollard
WR M Thomas, Golladay, DJ Moore, Beckham, AJ Brown, Jeudy, Ruggs, Mims, Davis
TE Kittle, Gesicki, Jarwin, Howard
K Fairbairn
DEF Chargers

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby TD41 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:50 pm

I'm a Sanders fan as well as a big Mixon fan... Some teams have managed to rebuild an offensive line in one offseason but many more cant manage it.

The prospect of Sanders languishing behind an awful oline while they split of the backfield 3-4 ways is enough for me to hold off for a bit and watch roster moves.

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:18 pm

Sanders' efficiency has been good despite the PHI line. He's averaging 5.6 yards per carry. The Eagles are a mess. The one thing they can do well is run block, yet the never stick with it.
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26 man rosters - full point ppr
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QB: Tannehill, Brees
RB: Kamara, Sanders
WR: Hill, DK, KA, Julio, Cooks
TE: Kelce, Kittle

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby timeEd32 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:28 pm

As a Sanders owner, I'm just hoping either Hurts unlocks some things (though I think he'll be more likely to run than dump off to the RBs) or that this disaster of a season continues and they clean house. His yards created and juke rate are good -- I'm choosing to bet on the talent, but it might take some patience.

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:30 pm

timeEd32 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:28 pm
As a Sanders owner, I'm just hoping either Hurts unlocks some things (though I think he'll be more likely to run than dump off to the RBs) or that this disaster of a season continues and they clean house. His yards created and juke rate are good -- I'm choosing to bet on the talent, but it might take some patience.
💯 He's a hold or a buy. Within the offense currently, he has a terrifying floor in 2020.
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26 man rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Tannehill, Brees
RB: Kamara, Sanders
WR: Hill, DK, KA, Julio, Cooks
TE: Kelce, Kittle

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby TD41 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:32 pm

Orenthal Shames wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:18 pm
Sanders' efficiency has been good despite the PHI line. He's averaging 5.6 yards per carry. The Eagles are a mess. The one thing they can do well is run block, yet the never stick with it.
Gameflow is always going to be an issue with Wentz backpedaling the offense away... That being said if Sanders was getting 80%of the workload I'd love to have him.

1(?) target and 10/25 carries yesterday.

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby CL3VELANDBR0WNS » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:58 pm

I'm hoping Hurts will revitalize this offense (He looked better on <20 touches than any QB in the NFC East outside of Prescott).
However, I think I might be a seller this offseason assuming his value remains in the top 2 rounds. I will always be worried about his ability to stay healthy, not fumble or drop everything, and coaching. It's a sad turn as I drafted him to be my next RB1 after Gurley's knee died but I'm losing faith when it would've actually been better to get a WR and pick a middling RB2 off the scrap heap.

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby fruity pebbles » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:34 pm

I’m actually debating starting him or Sterling Shepard next week. That’s how useless he’s been.

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby AussieMate » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:54 pm

TD41 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:50 pm
I'm a Sanders fan as well as a big Mixon fan... Some teams have managed to rebuild an offensive line in one offseason but many more cant manage it.

The prospect of Sanders languishing behind an awful oline while they split of the backfield 3-4 ways is enough for me to hold off for a bit and watch roster moves.
ahh the pain of owner good RBs with shitty O-lines, I'm with you on the Mixon and Sanders sinking ships.

When it comes to the Eagles O-line I don't think its as dire as made out, they are down 7 o-line players due to injury which you would assume most will be back by 2021, plug in Dillard and Brooks along with Kelce and the emergence of Mailata as a decent backup they really will only need 1 maybe 2 draft picks spent on O-line to bring it back to a respectable level.

Unlike Bengals who have been rubbish for a few years and seem to fail at drafting them lately as well, the bright future for them would be getting Sewell in the draft and shifting their LT to RT and maybe picking up a centre in the second round, at least that's my dream for my Mixon shares.

The more worrying concern for the Eagles is them bringing back Howard for some unknown reason, so far this year Sanders biggest problem has been catching the ball, so they go out and bring in a thumper to take away carries in the one area Sanders was doing quite well in???? I've got no idea what that is about.

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby timeEd32 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:01 pm

Honestly, if Sanders is only sharing the backfield with Scott and Howard entering 2021 then I will consider that a big win. My biggest concern, despite their cap situation, is they bring in a better version of Howard.

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby mild » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:01 pm

timeEd32 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:28 pm
As a Sanders owner, I'm just hoping either Hurts unlocks some things (though I think he'll be more likely to run than dump off to the RBs) or that this disaster of a season continues and they clean house. His yards created and juke rate are good -- I'm choosing to bet on the talent, but it might take some patience.
Hurts will juice the read-option, though - there's a well known corollary to dual-threat QB's and RB production getting opened up...

... if they stick with the run, that is.

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby ThunderTung » Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:25 pm

mild wrote:
Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:01 pm
timeEd32 wrote:
Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:28 pm
As a Sanders owner, I'm just hoping either Hurts unlocks some things (though I think he'll be more likely to run than dump off to the RBs) or that this disaster of a season continues and they clean house. His yards created and juke rate are good -- I'm choosing to bet on the talent, but it might take some patience.
Hurts will juice the read-option, though - there's a well known corollary to dual-threat QB's and RB production getting opened up...

... if they stick with the run, that is.
I hope so, I hate seeing him getting like 12 carries a game with a 5+ ypc and being TD dependent because of it. I love Sanders as a talent, but the way they've used him has really disappointed me
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Picks(2021):1.01,1.04,2.01,2.05,2.07
QB(1): Hurts
RB(2): Sanders/Harris
WR(2): Edelman/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Hardman/Kirk
K: Jake Elliot
DL(2): Ngakoue/Hicks
LB(2): Hicks/J. Smith
DB(2) Devin McCourty/Mathieu
FLEX: Murray

Bench:
QB: Mayfield/Foles
RB: Barber/JJ Taylor/Burkhead/Ollison
WR: S. Miller/Sims/Campbell/Robinson/ KJ Hill/Meyers
TE: Gronk/Sternberger/Asiasi/Keene
DL: Dex. Lawrence/Allen
LB: Chubb/Barrett/Whitehead/Bentley/Vigil/Jones
DB: Gilmore/Sorenson

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby Ray Finkle » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:55 pm

Frustrating. Sanders isn’t void of blame but my goodness, he’s their best option out there. I’m lucky to have a bye next week so I get a free look to see how the Philly backfield shakes out for one more week. However, unless I get some clarity on Sanders or Dobbins between now and week 15 I might be screwed at my RB2 for the playoffs.

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby skinfanjon » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:51 pm

I'll wait for WRs that are stuck in poor situations because the shelf life is so much longer, but ain't nobody got time for RBs. <<<Thats a generalization but truly if I don't feel like I'm waiting around for a real difference maker I'm moving on.

Mixon and Sanders are two players whose talent I like quite a bit. I'd sell both assuming I can get something close to market value. Definitely not looking to acquire anywhere.

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Re: Miles Sanders?

Postby Ice » Wed Dec 09, 2020 1:11 pm

O lines matter a ton.

Sanders is a smart buy for next year IMO if you can get him at a decent price.

Zeke has a similar issue as his rushing yards per game is around minus 20 from running behind 2nd and 3rd stringers due to injuries.
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