RB to get now for 2021

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Re: RB to get now for 2021

Postby The Godwin Complex » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:15 am

Lazy bleep Mastermind wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:49 am
The Godwin Complex wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:33 am
Lazy bleep Mastermind wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:04 am


Yeah I agree with both of these takes. I was going to make a move for a RB like this but I decided to just hold my picks until we’re closer to the draft and rookie fever starts to kick in. The thing is, the picks are guaranteed to increase in value. These guys are not.
I disagree.

I just traded Coleman and a 2021 4th for Harris....meanwhile earlier in the season (when I needed help rebuilding at RB) I traded Brady for Michel and that 4th...so basically I traded Brady/Coleman for Michel/Harris....which, from a dynasty perspective is super cheap. I wouldn’t trade a 1st round pick or high 2nd for any names like these unless I was sure they could turn out to be like Turner, Thomas Jones, or Marshawn Lynch - which I think Fournette could easily be like..
Not trying to argue with you but I’m not really sure what point this proves... the fact that someone gave you Michel+ for Brady in a 1 QB league, and then Harris for Coleman+ just says to me that you got 2 good deals. It also tells me that the pick increased in value somewhat. Not sure how this means you disagree with what we were saying.
I was disagreeing that [all] picks are guaranteed to increase in value. I think that based on how the NFL draft shakes out that statement is only true for a specific range of the earlier picks. But I think there’s a cutoff where some picks ultimately become much less valuable than originally thought (most likely back end of the 1st but definitely the 3rds and 4ths).
2020 BOLD PREDICTIONS
James Robinson’s 2020 production in PPR will be comparable to or better than
Antonio Gibson, DeAndre Swift, and Cam Akers.
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12 TEAM SUPERFLEX PPR
START: QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 SUPERFLEX
ROSTER STARTERS
QB: B. Roethlisberger (PIT)
RB: N. Chubb (CLE), L. Fournette (TB)
WR: C. Godwin (TB), C. Sutton (DEN), J. Smith-Schuster (PIT),
TE: B. Jarwin (DAL), M. Alie-Cox (IND)
FLEX: J. Landry (CLE), D. Harris (NE), R. Cobb (HOU)
SUPERFLEX: Sam Darnold (NYJ)


BENCH:
QB: G. Minshew (JAX), J. Luton (Jax), M. Rudolph (PIT)
RB: R. Penny (SEA), S. Michel (NE), D. Dallas (SEA), K. Vaughn (TB), JJ Taylor (NE), J. Howard (MIA), J. Wilkins (IND), C. Patterson (CHI)
WR: T. Fulgham (PHI), G. Olszewski (NE), W. Snead (BAL), A. Tate (CIN), L. Fitzgerald (AZ),
TE: D. Asiasi (NE), D. Njoku (CLE), D. Keene (NE)

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Re: RB to get now for 2021

Postby Lazy Ass Mastermind » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:30 am

The Godwin Complex wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:15 am
Lazy bleep Mastermind wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:49 am
The Godwin Complex wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:33 am


I disagree.

I just traded Coleman and a 2021 4th for Harris....meanwhile earlier in the season (when I needed help rebuilding at RB) I traded Brady for Michel and that 4th...so basically I traded Brady/Coleman for Michel/Harris....which, from a dynasty perspective is super cheap. I wouldn’t trade a 1st round pick or high 2nd for any names like these unless I was sure they could turn out to be like Turner, Thomas Jones, or Marshawn Lynch - which I think Fournette could easily be like..
Not trying to argue with you but I’m not really sure what point this proves... the fact that someone gave you Michel+ for Brady in a 1 QB league, and then Harris for Coleman+ just says to me that you got 2 good deals. It also tells me that the pick increased in value somewhat. Not sure how this means you disagree with what we were saying.
I was disagreeing that [all] picks are guaranteed to increase in value. I think that based on how the NFL draft shakes out that statement is only true for a specific range of the earlier picks. But I think there’s a cutoff where some picks ultimately become much less valuable than originally thought (most likely back end of the 1st but definitely the 3rds and 4ths).
Ohh ok got it. Thanks for clarifying.
12 Team, 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, Flex, TE, DEF, K
QB: Joe Burrow, Tua Tagovailoa, Cam Newton
RB: Ke'Shawn Vaughn, Tevin Coleman, D'Ernest Johnson, Damien Williams, Kalen Ballage
WR: DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Terry Mclaurin, Denzel Mims, TY Hilton, N'Keal Harry, Marquez Callaway, Isaiah Coulter
TE: Hunter Henry, Zach Ertz
DEF: Texans
K: Whoever

*League is a Keep 7. I’m in year 1 of a complete rebuild (my roster is this bad by design).
I own all of my own picks.
Additional Picks Acquired:
2021 1st
2021 2nd
2021 2nd
2022 1st
2022 2nd
2022 2nd
2022 2nd
2022 4th
2022 5th

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Re: RB to get now for 2021

Postby TD41 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:19 pm

jcc6fd wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:10 am
This thread reminded me of the 2018/19 offseason where everyone was suggesting to grab Tevin Coleman because he was a free agent and would finally be out from under Freeman's shadow. His price ended up skyrocketing to a mid first before he ever played a down in SF. Never paid off.

That said there's always massive potential on getting ahead of the curve to acquire players who might have more opportunity. The main key is the price (is it actually a discount). A close second would be what do we already know about a player that has limited their value to date.
I get your point... Michael Turner a year early was glorious! A good example of massive potential realised

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Re: RB to get now for 2021

Postby wesgood87 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:44 am

JRob would be on the bottom of my list to buy right now. Seems like a lock, but you could very well be extremely burnt by the assets you trade to get him. We have no clue what's going to happen with that team next year.
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12 Team PPR: 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 FLEX

QB: Prescott, Watson, Newton, Darnold, Trubisky
RB: J. Taylor, A. Gibson, J. Mixon, J. Jacobs, A. Mattison, L. Bowden, JD Mckissic, Perine
WR: S. Diggs, AJ Brown, M. Gallup, Lazard, J. Reynolds, P. Williams, D. Mooney, D. Robinson, J Hurd
TE: I. Smith, J. Graham, J. Reed, Jarwin, Firkser, Herndon, Tyree Jackson, D Knox

(Temporary 5 slot increase in off-season).

2021 3rd (Mine)

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Re: RB to get now for 2021

Postby kmbryant09 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:26 pm

Buy High - A. Ekeler & A. Gibson. Will take more than that late 1st, but I think there's still a decent buying window for both of these guys. Ekeler because of his injury, and I have no clue why Gibson isn't a dynasty top12 RB right now.

Buy Medium - C. Edmonds & D. Harris. Think there's a ~50% chance these guys enter 2021 as their team's respective starter, and both offer tremendous upside and at least some semblance of a usable floor. Edmonds, in particular, is a sneaky candidate to jump into an RB #1 next year (I don't think ARI re-signs Drake & they have more pressing needs on the OL & DEF to draft a RB early).

Buy Low - T. Pollard, P. Lindsay, K. Vaughn. I'm not sure there's a path to Pollard being a starting RB in 2021, but I'm fully convinced he's a top20 RB in the NFL. Lindsay was great the last 2 years, has massively outperformed Gordon, and both of their futures are unsettled. With Vaughn, we've seen rookie RBs struggle in year 1 only to take a leap forward in year 2 (Jones & Henderson this year).
10-team/.5 PPR/5 Pts per Passing TD. Start 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLEX (rb/wr/te)
QB: K. Murray, J. Hurts, B. Mayfield
RB: M. Sanders, C. Edwards-Helaire, A. Ekeler, J.K. Dobbins, A. Gibson, M. Gaskin, T. Pollard, C. Edmonds, G. Edwards, B. Scott
WR: A.J. Brown, T. Higgins, Di. Johnson, O. Beckham Jr., J. Reagor, D. Mooney, P. Williams, Q. Cephus
TE: E. Engram, I. Smith Jr., R. Gronkowski

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2021 Picks: 1.08 / 2.05 / 3.10 / 4.10
2022 Picks: 2nd, 4th
2023 Picks: 1, (2x) 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: RB to get now for 2021

Postby jimmychoi » Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:15 pm

What do folks think about Jamaal Williams?

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Re: RB to get now for 2021

Postby TD41 » Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:37 pm

I still think its Akers... He's likely not even fully healed from the separated rib cartilage earlier in the season. He's only now just starting to take his shares of the offense back.

2021 no Malcom Brown Akers can do enough in a 2-way split

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Re: RB to get now for 2021

Postby dark_knite03 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:57 am

Pollard is under contract for the 2022 season as well. At which time he'll be 26 years old. While he has flashed some skill short of a trade out of Dallas in not sure he ever gets his chance.
Est '17 12 Team 1PPR 4-Pass 6-Rush/Recieve TD
Start QB RB RB WR WR TE FX FX K DL LB DB
Ryan, Minshew, D.Carr
JT, Dobbins,Monty,Singletary,Penny, D Williams
Harris, Dillon,GustheBus, JJ Taylor, Royce F
Diggs, AJB, Jefferson, DJM, Deebo, Juedy
C.Davis, Mims, Claypool, Edwards, Washington
Kittle, Andrews,Njoku, Albert O,
2021
1.02,1.04,2.04,2.06,4.04,5.04

Superflex Est 19' - - Tiered PPR
QB RB RB WR WR TE FX SF K D
Wilson, Watson, Rivers, Lock
Henry, Chubb, Sanders, Gordon, Jrob, Gallman, Moss, Davis
Adams, Godwin, DJM ,Kenaan, AJB, Hardman, Jefferson
Andrews, Goedert


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