AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby hoos89 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:44 am

Straycatz2 wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:05 am AJB year 1 > Moore year 1
AJB year 1 = Moore year 2
AJB year 2 > Moore year 3
AJB #1 on team > Moore #2 on team (currently)
Tannehill > Bridgewater

Both are studs and will be future studs but who knows when will Moore situation change? I'll take AJB cause his situation, usage, and qb seems to be stable, instead of hoping Moore situation gets better in 1-3 years.
I don't really think AJB year 1 = Moore year 2 is fair. DJM was WR12 in total points and AJB was WR23 last year.

I also don't really think that the AJB #1 / DJM #2 argument is fair at all...seems like super selective reasoning. There's only been 1 week where Anderson significantly outscored DJM, which happens to be the same number of weeks DJM has significantly outscored Anderson. Otherwise they've been within a few points either way, and their season total is fairly close as well so I think they're really more like 1a/1b.
Also Davis has not been out-targeted by AJB yet this season in a game where both played and Davis has significantly outscored AJB two out of three games in which they both played vs AJB significantly outscoring Davis once.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby The MAC Machine » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:27 pm

hoos89 wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:44 am
DJM was WR12 in total points and AJB was WR23 last year.
Sorry, but this is inaccurate. DJM was WR 16 and AJB was 21.
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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby hoos89 » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:29 pm

The Godwin Complex wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:27 pm
hoos89 wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:44 am
DJM was WR12 in total points and AJB was WR23 last year.
Sorry, but this is inaccurate. DJM was WR 16 and AJB was 21.
It's accurate for the fantasy season (weeks 1-16). I'm guessing this is if you include week 17? I don't because MFL doesn't show it (also it's not part of the fantasy season for a reason).
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby JJRules » Tue Nov 03, 2020 12:28 pm

The Godwin Complex wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:27 pm
hoos89 wrote: Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:44 am
DJM was WR12 in total points and AJB was WR23 last year.
Sorry, but this is inaccurate. DJM was WR 16 and AJB was 21.
I just checked my league histories, and last year:

non-PPR
AJB finished WR8
DJM finished WR21

.5 PPR
AJB finished WR15
DJM finished WR18
10-team Superflex, 0.5 PPR, 15-man rosters, pseudo-dynasty
Keep any number of players (0-15), lose same number of draft picks
2010, 2015, 2020 - 🏆, 2013 - 🥈

QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, SF, FLEX, D/ST

QB: Dak, Watson
RB: Swift, Robinson Jr, Singletary, Brown, Hubbard, Zeus, Herbert
WR: Wilson, Olave, Pickens, Aiyuk
TE: Pitts, LaPorta
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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby hoos89 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:21 pm

Full PPR then
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby Sriracha » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:27 pm

hoos89 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:21 pm Full PPR then
AJ wasn't even a full time starter until week 10.

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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby hoos89 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:47 pm

Sriracha wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:27 pm
hoos89 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:21 pm Full PPR then
AJ wasn't even a full time starter until week 10.
Are we going to make the same caveat for DJM's rookie season?
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up


Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5

Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1

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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby Sriracha » Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:52 pm

hoos89 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:47 pm
Sriracha wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:27 pm
hoos89 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:21 pm Full PPR then
AJ wasn't even a full time starter until week 10.
Are we going to make the same caveat for DJM's rookie season?
Of course DJM was afforded that caveat as a rookie.

No one is comparing AJB's rookie season to DJM's rookies season; they're comparing AJB's rookie season to DJM's 2nd season.

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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:49 pm

Sriracha wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:52 pm
hoos89 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:47 pm
Sriracha wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 2:27 pm

AJ wasn't even a full time starter until week 10.
Are we going to make the same caveat for DJM's rookie season?
Of course DJM was afforded that caveat as a rookie.

No one is comparing AJB's rookie season to DJM's rookies season; they're comparing AJB's rookie season to DJM's 2nd season.
Even leaving out, not having full time reps and the huge increase in production from tannehill. The reality is AJB scored more points in 2/3 scoring formats.

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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby trc » Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:40 am

Mjvb5 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:49 pm Even leaving out, not having full time reps and the huge increase in production from tannehill. The reality is AJB scored more points in 2/3 scoring formats.
What formats are you referring to?
DJ seems to win in all PPR-formats
AJB will win non-ppr, depending on TD-scoring and perhaps depending on return yards, as it seems very close in standard leagues.

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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby hankmurphy » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:39 am

I feel like the tape speaks for itself.

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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby Mjvb5 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:25 am

trc wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:40 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:49 pm Even leaving out, not having full time reps and the huge increase in production from tannehill. The reality is AJB scored more points in 2/3 scoring formats.
What formats are you referring to?
DJ seems to win in all PPR-formats
AJB will win non-ppr, depending on TD-scoring and perhaps depending on return yards, as it seems very close in standard leagues.
AJB scored more points in his rookie year in both half ppr and non ppr than dj Moore did in his sophomore year

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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:31 am

Mjvb5 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:25 am
trc wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:40 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2020 3:49 pm Even leaving out, not having full time reps and the huge increase in production from tannehill. The reality is AJB scored more points in 2/3 scoring formats.
What formats are you referring to?
DJ seems to win in all PPR-formats
AJB will win non-ppr, depending on TD-scoring and perhaps depending on return yards, as it seems very close in standard leagues.
AJB scored more points in his rookie year in both half ppr and non ppr than dj Moore did in his sophomore year
Good thing I only play in full ppr!

Just poking a little fun :D this should be a good thread for a while. Going to take a while to settle it, I bet

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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby jjleurquin » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:42 am

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:31 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:25 am
trc wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:40 am

What formats are you referring to?
DJ seems to win in all PPR-formats
AJB will win non-ppr, depending on TD-scoring and perhaps depending on return yards, as it seems very close in standard leagues.
AJB scored more points in his rookie year in both half ppr and non ppr than dj Moore did in his sophomore year
Good thing I only play in full ppr!

Just poking a little fun :D this should be a good thread for a while. Going to take a while to settle it, I bet
I think the DK/AJB comparison is much closer.

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Re: AJ Brown or DJ Moore?

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:42 am

jjleurquin wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:42 am
Jigga94 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:31 am
Mjvb5 wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:25 am

AJB scored more points in his rookie year in both half ppr and non ppr than dj Moore did in his sophomore year
Good thing I only play in full ppr!

Just poking a little fun :D this should be a good thread for a while. Going to take a while to settle it, I bet
I think the DK/AJB comparison is much closer.
I wouldn't disagree. Maybe we need that thread too? Lol


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