That works great by me! I'd also be really happy with something like Fuller and Chase. I feel like Chase is a guy you just draft if there, and worry about fit with other WRs later.AussieMate wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:35 pmFor Tua I was hoping for Chase with the Texans pick but I would happily take Godwin and then draft a speed guy to open it up, if they come out the offseason with Godwin and Waddle I'd be very very excited.ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:03 pmAgreed. Miami needs at least 2 WRs. As a fin fan in hoping one vet and one high draft pick.
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Dynasty player since 2002.
I probably should have done something more productive with that time...
I probably should have done something more productive with that time...
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Agree with that, if chase is there it doesn't really matter who you've got IMO you just take the guy and let everything else fall into placeColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:54 amThat works great by me! I'd also be really happy with something like Fuller and Chase. I feel like Chase is a guy you just draft if there, and worry about fit with other WRs later.AussieMate wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:35 pmFor Tua I was hoping for Chase with the Texans pick but I would happily take Godwin and then draft a speed guy to open it up, if they come out the offseason with Godwin and Waddle I'd be very very excited.ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:03 pm
Agreed. Miami needs at least 2 WRs. As a fin fan in hoping one vet and one high draft pick.
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I'll just stick this here- https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2020 ... gy-jaguars
"[Trubisky] might very well cruise through those games and get the Bears to the postseason, but should that negate three-plus seasons of evidence that he’s not the guy? Would the Bears, who had seen enough at the end of last season to trade for Nick Foles and decline Trubisky’s fifth-year option, really consider bringing him back for 2021?"
I've seen Chicago floated as a FA/trade target for QBs. Also curious who would go after Trubisky. NE's history of reclamation projects would make them interesting.
"[Trubisky] might very well cruise through those games and get the Bears to the postseason, but should that negate three-plus seasons of evidence that he’s not the guy? Would the Bears, who had seen enough at the end of last season to trade for Nick Foles and decline Trubisky’s fifth-year option, really consider bringing him back for 2021?"
I've seen Chicago floated as a FA/trade target for QBs. Also curious who would go after Trubisky. NE's history of reclamation projects would make them interesting.
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After seeing Foles be just as brutal, I'm not 100% sure it was all on Trubisky. The last few weeks hes actually not been bad, and likely gives another team enough incentive to test the waters.
Your NE call isn't a bad one. It makes a lot of sense.
Your NE call isn't a bad one. It makes a lot of sense.
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That improvement in play coincides with Bill Lazor taking over play calling. He similarly sparked the offense when taking over in Cincinnati some years ago.
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Curious what this ranking is- salary, dynasty ranking, something else? With how Newton has played, would teams go after any of these QBs over him in free agency, ignoring contract size/length offerings?nathanq42 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:45 am Figured since we are just about done with a third of the season and are seeing how the NFL is shaking out, we should get some discussion going around the 2021 FA class and the potential landing spots.
Notable Players by position:
Quarterbacks:
Dak Prescott
Philip Rivers
Jameis Winston
Cam Newton
Andy Dalton
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Jacoby Brissett
Tyrod Taylor
Mitchell Trubisky
Taysom Hill
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It's just a list roughly from best to worst for me at the time. I reckon can would be near the bottom these daysPullo Vision wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 1:41 amCurious what this ranking is- salary, dynasty ranking, something else? With how Newton has played, would teams go after any of these QBs over him in free agency, ignoring contract size/length offerings?nathanq42 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:45 am Figured since we are just about done with a third of the season and are seeing how the NFL is shaking out, we should get some discussion going around the 2021 FA class and the potential landing spots.
Notable Players by position:
Quarterbacks:
Dak Prescott
Philip Rivers
Jameis Winston
Cam Newton
Andy Dalton
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Jacoby Brissett
Tyrod Taylor
Mitchell Trubisky
Taysom Hill
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Arthur Blank suggests the team may be without Ryan and Julio.
https://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/art ... ryan-julio
https://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/art ... ryan-julio
The previous decade was the most successful in team history, and that is largely thanks to players like quarterback Matt Ryan and wide receiver Julio Jones.
However, despite what they've accomplished in Atlanta and what they mean to the Falcons, there remains at least a possibility that the team continues into the next decade without them.
"What I think is important, most important, is that we hire people who are, number one, the very best at their jobs," Blank said. "That goes without saying. Who will come forward with a plan for us to have a championship team, a competitive team, et cetera. And that may include Matt and Julio for now, for the next two years, three years, or may not. I have no idea."
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PFF considers cap cut candidates- https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-spielberge ... casualties
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The "few potential surprise options" don't really look that surprising. The more the Browns do without OBJ the more you really can see them moving on.
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RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
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I think the surprise would be cutting him outright over trading him for at least something. Im near the end of the string in thinking that OBJ is a top WR in the league. Last year's stats were solid all things considered (new team, terrible coaching, Baker's sharp decline in play, poor play calling, injuries he played through) but this year (at least the bit OBJ got to play in) is nearly inexcusable, Baker has proven to be a solid QB leading the Browns to the playoffs, the offense is admittedly run heavy, cannot seem to shake the injury bug.YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:50 pm The "few potential surprise options" don't really look that surprising. The more the Browns do without OBJ the more you really can see them moving on.
I hope OBJ and the Browns part ways for the best interest of both parties. He doesn't seem to fit into their game plan (no high profile WR would tbh) and that cap space could be better served on defense or upgrading their Oline to steamroll the competition with their backfield (plus OBJ has no guaranteed money after the 2020 season if I am reading overthecap correctly, so if I'm not mistaken they woulding have any deadcap as a result of cutting him eh?).
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I was thinking trade > cut, but you never know. Like you said it might be best for both parties to part ways and start fresh. I see more and more of him just wanting to razzle dazzle and not put in the work anymore. Wishful thinking is that this injury made him realize he's bottomed out and he rebuilds himself to prove the haters wrong. It's a big wish in which I'm not holding my breath.
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RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
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RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
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I think one of three things will happen. OBJ is dealt (but who would take him with that contract eh?), he is cut (no dead cap, frees up a lot of money for the Browns to invest where they will receive a much higher ROI), or he restructures for a significant pay cut. My bet would be on a failed attempt at a restructured deal and OBJ is cut. I hope the Browns are smart enough to realize a 15 million dollar LT is worth waaaay more to their team than a 16 million dollar WR.YouMightDieTryin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 2:31 pm I was thinking trade > cut, but you never know. Like you said it might be best for both parties to part ways and start fresh. I see more and more of him just wanting to razzle dazzle and not put in the work anymore. Wishful thinking is that this injury made him realize he's bottomed out and he rebuilds himself to prove the haters wrong. It's a big wish in which I'm not holding my breath.
I know that OBJ has the ability to be a top WR in this league (obviously health could play a part in him not realizing that), but it is a pipe dream that he has a Randy Moss leaving Oakland type of resurrection.
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OBJ is one of the interesting players for me this offseason. I remember there being talk last offseasonof him going to NE this offseason. I was surprised to see Washington listed as of one of the teams with among the most (projected) cap space, and they do have a WR need.
He's similar to Zeke for me- reasons for concern, but could be a great contender value get.
He's similar to Zeke for me- reasons for concern, but could be a great contender value get.
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Maybe teams won't need to cut a bazillion players to get under the cap- https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... alary-cap/
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