Yeah it won't be this week or the next probably, but I'd probably rather have him (real life) than HillFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:38 amHave to think Lev Bell is going to be the third down back at some point. He's probably still a good pass blocker, and receiver, even if he's not the same explosive player he used to be.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:31 amPersonally I don't see much of a bump. Mostly because Tyson was already the #2 back and also because he won't take over pass catching duties, unless he's hiding some pass catching ability I don't know about.
I wasn't even sure they'd be using Hill as a pass catching back, he was mostly going to be ST
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How about a little Trenton Cannon to further muddle this backfield? Takes the Justice Hill role temporarily.
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I mentioned Ty'Son Williams months ago when he was getting picked up across a number of my leagues and I couldn't find a drop of news. Now, it's Daurice Fountain and I'm not seeing why people are going gaga over this KC WR.
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If roster space for only one of the two, Trautman is the guy to keep right? He obviously has the draft capital and TE experience so I don’t know why it’s even a decision for me. Darren Waller ruined me.j4pac wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:12 pmHe’ll probably be more productive than Trautman. He has potential. I’d stash him if you have lots of room. The Saints would be really excited about him if all of the excitement wasn’t used up on Callaway.Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:07 pm I may have overlooked him earlier in the thread but anybody mind educating me on this Juwan Johnson fellar New Orleans? I understand he made the roster and will get a look early on with their other TE injuries. Profile looks good.
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Trautman will have a role. He is a good inline TE and blocker. Perhaps he’ll sneak out for a TD like Gronk this week. But he hasn’t demonstrated anything close to a high volume receiver. I think that Johnson will be the better fantasy TE this year. If you want a Waller type guy...Johnson is much more of that mold. Ultra athletic converted WR. BTW...no coach in the NFL cares less about draft capital than Payton.Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:28 amIf roster space for only one of the two, Trautman is the guy to keep right? He obviously has the draft capital and TE experience so I don’t know why it’s even a decision for me. Darren Waller ruined me.j4pac wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:12 pmHe’ll probably be more productive than Trautman. He has potential. I’d stash him if you have lots of room. The Saints would be really excited about him if all of the excitement wasn’t used up on Callaway.Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 7:07 pm I may have overlooked him earlier in the thread but anybody mind educating me on this Juwan Johnson fellar New Orleans? I understand he made the roster and will get a look early on with their other TE injuries. Profile looks good.
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Not necessarily looking for the next Waller, his success just has me irrationally hopeful for Johnson I think. Trautman tops the depth chart so I was just second guessing myself keeping Johnson over him.j4pac wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:56 amTrautman will have a role. He is a good inline TE and blocker. Perhaps he’ll sneak out for a TD like Gronk this week. But he hasn’t demonstrated anything close to a high volume receiver. I think that Johnson will be the better fantasy TE this year. If you want a Waller type guy...Johnson is much more of that mold. Ultra athletic converted WR. BTW...no coach in the NFL cares less about draft capital than Payton.Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:28 am
If roster space for only one of the two, Trautman is the guy to keep right? He obviously has the draft capital and TE experience so I don’t know why it’s even a decision for me. Darren Waller ruined me.
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Because people go gaga on situation over talentPullo Vision wrote: ↑Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:39 pm I mentioned Ty'Son Williams months ago when he was getting picked up across a number of my leagues and I couldn't find a drop of news. Now, it's Daurice Fountain and I'm not seeing why people are going gaga over this KC WR.
Why else have people churned through hype trains trying to make bums like Mecole Hardman and Marquez Valdes Scantling a thing
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Hope you kept Johnson.......Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:05 amNot necessarily looking for the next Waller, his success just has me irrationally hopeful for Johnson I think. Trautman tops the depth chart so I was just second guessing myself keeping Johnson over him.j4pac wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:56 amTrautman will have a role. He is a good inline TE and blocker. Perhaps he’ll sneak out for a TD like Gronk this week. But he hasn’t demonstrated anything close to a high volume receiver. I think that Johnson will be the better fantasy TE this year. If you want a Waller type guy...Johnson is much more of that mold. Ultra athletic converted WR. BTW...no coach in the NFL cares less about draft capital than Payton.Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:28 am
If roster space for only one of the two, Trautman is the guy to keep right? He obviously has the draft capital and TE experience so I don’t know why it’s even a decision for me. Darren Waller ruined me.
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I did, started Everett over him today though.murphysxm wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:22 pmHope you kept Johnson.......Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:05 amNot necessarily looking for the next Waller, his success just has me irrationally hopeful for Johnson I think. Trautman tops the depth chart so I was just second guessing myself keeping Johnson over him.j4pac wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:56 am
Trautman will have a role. He is a good inline TE and blocker. Perhaps he’ll sneak out for a TD like Gronk this week. But he hasn’t demonstrated anything close to a high volume receiver. I think that Johnson will be the better fantasy TE this year. If you want a Waller type guy...Johnson is much more of that mold. Ultra athletic converted WR. BTW...no coach in the NFL cares less about draft capital than Payton.
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Glad you made the right decision.Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:05 amNot necessarily looking for the next Waller, his success just has me irrationally hopeful for Johnson I think. Trautman tops the depth chart so I was just second guessing myself keeping Johnson over him.j4pac wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 6:56 amTrautman will have a role. He is a good inline TE and blocker. Perhaps he’ll sneak out for a TD like Gronk this week. But he hasn’t demonstrated anything close to a high volume receiver. I think that Johnson will be the better fantasy TE this year. If you want a Waller type guy...Johnson is much more of that mold. Ultra athletic converted WR. BTW...no coach in the NFL cares less about draft capital than Payton.Ray Finkle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:28 am
If roster space for only one of the two, Trautman is the guy to keep right? He obviously has the draft capital and TE experience so I don’t know why it’s even a decision for me. Darren Waller ruined me.
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Re: Deep, Deep Sleepers?
Pharaoh Brown looks like a potential tight end breakout early. Unlike flame out receiving TEs like Barnidge before him, Brown is excellent blocking.
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“Pharaoh is a dog, he's a beast, straight savage, an animal,” said Ingram, who has played with Mark Andrews with the Baltimore Ravens and Jimmy Graham with the New Orleans Saints. “I've been around a lot of great tight ends, and he can be one of the best. He's physical in the run game, takes pride in blocking, and he's going to get his guy. Even when he doesn't, he comes to the sideline, ‘That was me, that was me.’
“But then obviously he has the talent, the athleticism to go run routes downfield, catch the ball, break tackles. He's a versatile tight end, a complete tight end, and I think he's one of the best in the game. He's super underrated. He's physical in the run game, holds the edge in the run game, whoops people in the run game, but also can be versatile and athletic enough to run routes, get open off safeties or linebackers and catch the ball and get yards after the catch.”
https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/news/hous ... atson-news
From Mark Ingram:
“Pharaoh is a dog, he's a beast, straight savage, an animal,” said Ingram, who has played with Mark Andrews with the Baltimore Ravens and Jimmy Graham with the New Orleans Saints. “I've been around a lot of great tight ends, and he can be one of the best. He's physical in the run game, takes pride in blocking, and he's going to get his guy. Even when he doesn't, he comes to the sideline, ‘That was me, that was me.’
“But then obviously he has the talent, the athleticism to go run routes downfield, catch the ball, break tackles. He's a versatile tight end, a complete tight end, and I think he's one of the best in the game. He's super underrated. He's physical in the run game, holds the edge in the run game, whoops people in the run game, but also can be versatile and athletic enough to run routes, get open off safeties or linebackers and catch the ball and get yards after the catch.”
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Thanks for the heads up. Just added him at minimum FA cost.jman3134 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 9:06 am Pharaoh Brown looks like a potential tight end breakout early. Unlike flame out receiving TEs like Barnidge before him, Brown is excellent blocking.
From Mark Ingram:
“Pharaoh is a dog, he's a beast, straight savage, an animal,” said Ingram, who has played with Mark Andrews with the Baltimore Ravens and Jimmy Graham with the New Orleans Saints. “I've been around a lot of great tight ends, and he can be one of the best. He's physical in the run game, takes pride in blocking, and he's going to get his guy. Even when he doesn't, he comes to the sideline, ‘That was me, that was me.’
“But then obviously he has the talent, the athleticism to go run routes downfield, catch the ball, break tackles. He's a versatile tight end, a complete tight end, and I think he's one of the best in the game. He's super underrated. He's physical in the run game, holds the edge in the run game, whoops people in the run game, but also can be versatile and athletic enough to run routes, get open off safeties or linebackers and catch the ball and get yards after the catch.”
https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/news/hous ... atson-news
This is his 5th year in the league, so you wonder why a guy with his size, athleticism, and blocking ability didn’t show up earlier until you see how severe of a leg injury he sustained. Well worth a look if he’s out there. This may be his coming out year.
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Is Trinity Benson worth a stash? Hasn’t got a shot yet, maybe he’ll be lightning in a bottle. More of a stash than Raymond, right?
Are either/both worth rostering over say Herndon?
Are either/both worth rostering over say Herndon?
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Re: Deep, Deep Sleepers?
Alex Collins ought to be the RB2 in Seattle. Travis Homer is hot trash and Penny can't stay healthy. He's a free add.
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In a back and forth OT game, Homer had 14 snaps, 11 routes. Collins 6 snaps, 4 routes, 1 carry.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:30 pm Alex Collins ought to be the RB2 in Seattle. Travis Homer is hot trash and Penny can't stay healthy. He's a free add.
Collins strikes me as a handcuff but Homer the #2 RB.
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