Deep, Deep Sleepers?

[Dynasty DeLorean]

Pharaoh Brown looks like a potential tight end breakout early. Unlike flame out receiving TEs like Barnidge before him, Brown is excellent blocking.

From Mark Ingram:
“Pharaoh is a dog, he's a beast, straight savage, an animal,” said Ingram, who has played with Mark Andrews with the Baltimore Ravens and Jimmy Graham with the New Orleans Saints. “I've been around a lot of great tight ends, and he can be one of the best. He's physical in the run game, takes pride in blocking, and he's going to get his guy. Even when he doesn't, he comes to the sideline, ‘That was me, that was me.’

“But then obviously he has the talent, the athleticism to go run routes downfield, catch the ball, break tackles. He's a versatile tight end, a complete tight end, and I think he's one of the best in the game. He's super underrated. He's physical in the run game, holds the edge in the run game, whoops people in the run game, but also can be versatile and athletic enough to run routes, get open off safeties or linebackers and catch the ball and get yards after the catch.”

https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/news/hous ... atson-news

Thanks for the heads up. Just added him at minimum FA cost.

This is his 5th year in the league, so you wonder why a guy with his size, athleticism, and blocking ability didn’t show up earlier until you see how severe of a leg injury he sustained. Well worth a look if he’s out there. This may be his coming out year.

FYI his athleticism is in the toilet.

[jman3134]

I might imagine that given the extent of the leg injury. Those words are from Mark Ingram, not me. Worth a shot imo though.

[Bronco Billy]

Pharaoh Brown looks like a potential tight end breakout early. Unlike flame out receiving TEs like Barnidge before him, Brown is excellent blocking.

From Mark Ingram:
“Pharaoh is a dog, he's a beast, straight savage, an animal,” said Ingram, who has played with Mark Andrews with the Baltimore Ravens and Jimmy Graham with the New Orleans Saints. “I've been around a lot of great tight ends, and he can be one of the best. He's physical in the run game, takes pride in blocking, and he's going to get his guy. Even when he doesn't, he comes to the sideline, ‘That was me, that was me.’

“But then obviously he has the talent, the athleticism to go run routes downfield, catch the ball, break tackles. He's a versatile tight end, a complete tight end, and I think he's one of the best in the game. He's super underrated. He's physical in the run game, holds the edge in the run game, whoops people in the run game, but also can be versatile and athletic enough to run routes, get open off safeties or linebackers and catch the ball and get yards after the catch.”

https://www.si.com/nfl/texans/news/hous ... atson-news

Thanks for the heads up. Just added him at minimum FA cost.

This is his 5th year in the league, so you wonder why a guy with his size, athleticism, and blocking ability didn’t show up earlier until you see how severe of a leg injury he sustained. Well worth a look if he’s out there. This may be his coming out year.

FYI his athleticism is in the toilet.

63rd percentile is hardly in the toilet.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

Thanks for the heads up. Just added him at minimum FA cost.

This is his 5th year in the league, so you wonder why a guy with his size, athleticism, and blocking ability didn’t show up earlier until you see how severe of a leg injury he sustained. Well worth a look if he’s out there. This may be his coming out year.

FYI his athleticism is in the toilet.

63rd percentile is hardly in the toilet.

Speed, leaping and agility is all 36th percentile and under. I don't know where his sparq came from, maybe he can throw up a bunch of reps on the bench. Everything else (the stuff that, you know, matters), is in the toilet.

edit: Apparently these are pro-day numbers, adjusted. So who knows if he is actually athletic or not

[Orenthal Shames]

Alex Collins ought to be the RB2 in Seattle. Travis Homer is hot trash and Penny can't stay healthy. He's a free add.

In a back and forth OT game, Homer had 14 snaps, 11 routes. Collins 6 snaps, 4 routes, 1 carry.

Collins strikes me as a handcuff but Homer the #2 RB.

Homer played more snaps last week, but he's terrible. Was graded one of the worst RBs in pass pro.

Granted this is Pete Carroll, so logic need not always apply. Collins took his first handoff for 25 yards then didn't see anyone touch while Carson churned out 2 ypc.

[Pullo Vision]

Seeing a (relative) rush across leagues to pick up Tommy Tremble.

[Sriracha]

Seeing a (relative) rush across leagues to pick up Tommy Tremble.

He's been on basically all of my rosters since draft day shallow leagues?

[Pullo Vision]

Seeing a (relative) rush across leagues to pick up Tommy Tremble.

He's been on basically all of my rosters since draft day shallow leagues?

Yep. Deeper leagues are clutching hard, but he's getting picked up in the shallower leagues. Not 12x21 shallow but more like 14x28.

[jman3134]

Don't look now, but my guy Brandon Zylstra had himself a game last week. Could earn more snaps with how he played. Reliable player.

[Dibbles]

Sternberger lands with SEA, anything to see here?

[wickerkat1212]

Seeing a (relative) rush across leagues to pick up Tommy Tremble.

Would you drop Firkser for him? 12-man, 1 ppr.
Or Kroft? Different 12-man, 1 ppr.

[ThunderTung]

Sternberger lands with SEA, anything to see here?

I liked him a lot coming out. I drafted him, and dropped him this last offseason and I don't plan on picking him back up, even in Seattle

[Pullo Vision]

Seeing a (relative) rush across leagues to pick up Tommy Tremble.

Would you drop Firkser for him? 12-man, 1 ppr.
Or Kroft? Different 12-man, 1 ppr.

Over Kroft easily. Firkser would be tougher. Tremble for youth/long-term, Firkser for the better chance at startable this-year production.

Don't see landing in Seattle behind Everett and the rest of the TEs being a positive for Sternberger.

[cazzie33]

Darnold to D.Arnold coming out party tonight ... Time is now to crash it b4 the video of it goes viral

[Bronco Billy]

FYI his athleticism is in the toilet.

63rd percentile is hardly in the toilet.

Speed, leaping and agility is all 36th percentile and under. I don't know where his sparq came from, maybe he can throw up a bunch of reps on the bench. Everything else (the stuff that, you know, matters), is in the toilet.

edit: Apparently these are pro-day numbers, adjusted. So who knows if he is actually athletic or not

Well, stupid me. I guess I’ll just keep trying to evaluate stuff that, you know, doesn’t matter like whether a guy can actually play on a NFL field in direct opposition to NFL players in a NFL game. I’ll just have to concede getting beaten by guys like you who emphasize stuff that, you know, matters like how guys do in tee shirts and shorts on a track or in a weight room - especially when that data is 5 years old.

BTW - SPARQ scores are adjusted for weight to try to normalize the results, not that would would really matter either.