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Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 1:29 am
by MFundercover
Didn't see much of the Cards game this week after watching the first 3. Just saw Drakes carries and the blocking was non existent. Maybe I'm in denial, but I'm convinced the problem is with the blocking and coaching, and that saying Edmonds would do any better is short sighted.

Here's the only clips I can find of week 4 Drake. Skip to 1:45.
https://youtu.be/WDcd3HyTTa0

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:05 am
by Orenthal Shames
Kittle is #2 in the league in contested catches. He's only played a game and a half.

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:36 am
by Bot101
Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:05 am Kittle is #2 in the league in contested catches. He's only played a game and a half.
Hes also the reason the hail mary failed at the end of the game last night. He knocked it out of Deebo's hands. Instant reduction in fantasy value IMHO.

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am
by Orenthal Shames
Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:

TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.

I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am
by Pac_Eddy
Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:05 am Kittle is #2 in the league in contested catches. He's only played a game and a half.
So he's being force fed, even in tight coverage, but still makes the play. The dude is a star.

Says a lot about SF's QBs & WRs too.

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:26 am
by ThunderTung
Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:

TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.

I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
traded him and Jordan Howard back in 2019 for a pick that yielded sanders. Better a year too early than too late right?

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:54 am
by Pullo Vision
Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:

TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.

I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
How much of this is driven by a Hilton decline and how much by who they've had at QB? Brissett and Rivers, anyone?

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:02 am
by murphysxm
Pullo Vision wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:54 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:

TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.

I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
How much of this is driven by a Hilton decline and how much by who they've had at QB? Brissett and Rivers, anyone?
The QB play is part of it, but he's not the same guy. He looked slow this week and has a bad drop every game it feels like. It is painful to watch as a Colts fan

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:29 am
by Orenthal Shames
Pullo Vision wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:54 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:

TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.

I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
How much of this is driven by a Hilton decline and how much by who they've had at QB? Brissett and Rivers, anyone?
Some unfortunate combination of both.

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:47 am
by CGW
Pullo Vision wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:54 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:49 am Man, Adam Levitan had a tweet that surprised me:

TY Hilton has zero games over 87 receiving yards since Andrew Luck retired.

I don't have him rostered, so haven't followed closely. I had no idea it had gotten this bad.
How much of this is driven by a Hilton decline and how much by who they've had at QB? Brissett and Rivers, anyone?
It's definitely both. He's lost his speed edge that he's had for his whole career and has had several concentration drops. On top of that, Rivers can't throw accurately down field more than 5 yards and Brissett was too conservative to throw downfield.

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:49 pm
by vflgladiators
I moved Drake in the offseason for the 1.08 and everyone in my league told me I got robbed. I know it's only been four weeks but I'm feeling pretty good about that one.

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:19 am
by Orenthal Shames
Per Ryan McDowell:

Players to finish as top-12 scorers every week this season:

Josh Allen
Kyler Murray
Alvin Kamara
Travis Kelce

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 7:21 am
by vflgladiators
Orenthal Shames wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:19 am Per Ryan McDowell:

Players to finish as top-12 scorers every week this season:

Josh Allen
Kyler Murray
Alvin Kamara
Travis Kelce
Which shows just how bad the TE position is. 3 receptions for 70 yards shouldn't be top 12 but here we are.

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:28 pm
by MFundercover
Have to feel pretty good about Damien Harris. That was basically his debut nfl appearance last night.

Re: Week 4 Discussion

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:30 pm
by Pac_Eddy
MFundercover wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:28 pm Have to feel pretty good about Damien Harris. That was basically his debut nfl appearance last night.
He ran pretty tough. Liked what I saw.