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CeeDee Lamb

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:28 am

I didn’t see any other posts on here about him so far, but what does everyone think about him so far? I think he looks like the best rookie WR, even though we are only two weeks in and with our(Cowboys) porous defense, there’s no reason he won’t keep putting up solid numbers. Jeudy has already had several drops and is now nicked up and playing with a backup QB. Jefferson had decent numbers but I admit I didn’t see any of his last game against the Colts. Ruggs looked good the first game but the Raiders didn’t go his way much against the Saints and Reagor is injured. What rookie WRs do people like so far and what do you like about them and their future?

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:36 am

He was my #1 WR in this years class, looks the part so far.

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:41 am

He's in a good spot. Playing slot in that offense is a good fit. I think he would have struggled had he started his career outside, and on a different team, as well. I like Ruggs long term in Vegas, but Lamb was given the easiest path to succeed for Fantasy early. He looks like a very capable slot receiver.

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby Bot101 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:54 am

His hype is a raging inferno, and I need to throw a little cold water. Yeah, he is absolutely taking advantage of the opportunities hes being given. He is obviously talented and belongs on an NFL field. But this nonsense I am starting to see about him being the best WR on the Cowboys is asinine. They are hiding him in the slot often and he is toasting slot corners and LBs. Week 1 Ramsey was on Gallup and Gallup was getting the better of the matchup. Defenses have also been focusing on stopping Cooper, not Lamb. Id like to see Lamp post up outside vs a defenses top corner before I start anointing him. I have seen in numerous places Lamb is now a dynasty WR 1. If that is the case I would be selling if I can get that type of return.

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:07 am

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Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:54 am
His hype is a raging inferno, and I need to throw a little cold water. Yeah, he is absolutely taking advantage of the opportunities hes being given. He is obviously talented and belongs on an NFL field. But this nonsense I am starting to see about him being the best WR on the Cowboys is asinine. They are hiding him in the slot often and he is toasting slot corners and LBs. Week 1 Ramsey was on Gallup and Gallup was getting the better of the matchup. Defenses have also been focusing on stopping Cooper, not Lamb. Id like to see Lamp post up outside vs a defenses top corner before I start anointing him. I have seen in numerous places Lamb is now a dynasty WR 1. If that is the case I would be selling if I can get that type of return.
Yeah, he's not better than Coop (who also went up against Ramsey), going up against top DB's. I agree. Had Atlanta been a half decent team, he's have had a 5 for 80 type line, not a 6 for 106. He's a good player, but he's a pure slot WR right now. I don't think anybody who knows football is saying he's better than Cooper at this point. If he was, he'd be playing all over the place, not Coop. I think people just get a bit carried away with their rookie biases. Nobody really believes he's better than Cooper at this point.

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby Bot101 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:14 am

Ive seen it said on Twitter by multiple fantasy "experts" who dont watch the games and ignore context. Having Lamb start in the slot could be great for his career long term. Good way to get his feet wet and not drown him.

Id like to see him gain a few lbs if they want to stick him outside. His helmet looks too big for his body.

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby Space Cowboy » Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:15 am

As advertised and then some. I'm actually starting him in redraft where I went RB heavy to the max.

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:16 am

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Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:14 am
Ive seen it said on Twitter by multiple fantasy "experts" who dont watch the games and ignore context. Having Lamb start in the slot could be great for his career long term. Good way to get his feet wet and not drown him.

Id like to see him gain a few lbs if they want to stick him outside. His helmet looks too big for his body.
Yeah, most of those "experts" are just a bunch of charlatans. I don't bother with any of it. They provide little to no valuable information. If they say Ceedee Lamb is better than Cooper right now, you can just go ahead and ignore whatever else they say. It's a good way to filter out people who don't know what they are talking about. Either that, or they are just making hot takes to get replies and retweets. Too much of that, too.

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:03 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:16 am
Bot101 wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:14 am
Ive seen it said on Twitter by multiple fantasy "experts" who dont watch the games and ignore context. Having Lamb start in the slot could be great for his career long term. Good way to get his feet wet and not drown him.

Id like to see him gain a few lbs if they want to stick him outside. His helmet looks too big for his body.
Yeah, most of those "experts" are just a bunch of charlatans. I don't bother with any of it. They provide little to no valuable information. If they say Ceedee Lamb is better than Cooper right now, you can just go ahead and ignore whatever else they say. It's a good way to filter out people who don't know what they are talking about. Either that, or they are just making hot takes to get replies and retweets. Too much of that, too.
I agree with both of you guys, he’s not better than Cooper or Gallup, “yet”. I also think he needs to bulk up and that’s pretty common with 21 year olds but that would allow them to move Cooper in the slot some, he would dominate with his route running.

As far as other rookie WRs go, I was looking forward to seeing what Jeudy looked like with Sutton out but not sure we will get the full picture with him being nicked up and Lock being out, although I’m not certain Driskel is much of a downgrade.

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:07 am

Cowboysfan33 wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:03 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:16 am
Bot101 wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:14 am
Ive seen it said on Twitter by multiple fantasy "experts" who dont watch the games and ignore context. Having Lamb start in the slot could be great for his career long term. Good way to get his feet wet and not drown him.

Id like to see him gain a few lbs if they want to stick him outside. His helmet looks too big for his body.
Yeah, most of those "experts" are just a bunch of charlatans. I don't bother with any of it. They provide little to no valuable information. If they say Ceedee Lamb is better than Cooper right now, you can just go ahead and ignore whatever else they say. It's a good way to filter out people who don't know what they are talking about. Either that, or they are just making hot takes to get replies and retweets. Too much of that, too.
I agree with both of you guys, he’s not better than Cooper or Gallup, “yet”. I also think he needs to bulk up and that’s pretty common with 21 year olds but that would allow them to move Cooper in the slot some, he would dominate with his route running.

As far as other rookie WRs go, I was looking forward to seeing what Jeudy looked like with Sutton out but not sure we will get the full picture with him being nicked up and Lock being out, although I’m not certain Driskel is much of a downgrade.
I think Coop will get in the slot more once Lamb is more comfortable on the outside, but not sure when that will be. I think Coop was the better college prospect, and obviously the better WR right now. Lamb is a big question on the outside for me. I didn't think he did that well vs top competition, but destroyed weaker opponents in the Big 12. I don't know if he is cut out for a true alpha role in the NFL, or if he is more of a big slot WR. If he is relegated to solely slot duties, he can still have a very productive career.

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby ThunderTung » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:27 am

Bot101 wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:54 am
His hype is a raging inferno, and I need to throw a little cold water. Yeah, he is absolutely taking advantage of the opportunities hes being given. He is obviously talented and belongs on an NFL field. But this nonsense I am starting to see about him being the best WR on the Cowboys is asinine. They are hiding him in the slot often and he is toasting slot corners and LBs. Week 1 Ramsey was on Gallup and Gallup was getting the better of the matchup. Defenses have also been focusing on stopping Cooper, not Lamb. Id like to see Lamp post up outside vs a defenses top corner before I start anointing him. I have seen in numerous places Lamb is now a dynasty WR 1. If that is the case I would be selling if I can get that type of return.
Trying to hold back my bias as an owner, however idk if your necessarily being fair to the kid. What do you expect these "experts" to say? he was arguably the best wr coming out of the draft, and has proven it thus far.

He might be toasting slot cb's and LB's rn, but isnt that what good wr's are supposed to do? I'm not going to argue he's better than coop or gallup rn, but he's also a rookie, i wouldnt expect him to be.

I know your not new to this, why wouldnt his value be tied to what he can be, and not what he is right now? thats what dynasty is for rookies. If there is anyone in the world that values him less than a wr1 in dynasty they're out of their minds.

I didnt draft him as early as i did because i thought he'd turn into a solid wr2. I picked him that early because I thought he'd turn into an elite wr1. and if he continues to develop and improve, thats exactly what he looks like he'll be.
12 man IDP 0.5 ppr
Picks(2021):2-1st, 3-2nds, 3rd, 2-4ths
QB(1): Mayfield
RB(2): Sanders/Harris
WR(2): Edelman/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Mattison/Kirk
K: Jake Elliot
DL(2): Yannick/Allen
LB(2): Hicks/J. Smith
DB(2) Devin McCourty/Mathieu
FLEX: Murray

Bench:
QB: Foles/Hurts
RB: Barber/JJ Taylor/Burkhead/Ollison
WR: S. Miller/Sims/Campbell/Robinson/ KJ Hill
TE: Witten/Gronk/Sternberger/Asiasi/Keene
DL: Linval/Vea
LB: Chubb/Barrett/Whitehead/Bentley/Vigil/Jones
DB: Gilmore

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:39 am

ThunderTung wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:27 am
Bot101 wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:54 am
His hype is a raging inferno, and I need to throw a little cold water. Yeah, he is absolutely taking advantage of the opportunities hes being given. He is obviously talented and belongs on an NFL field. But this nonsense I am starting to see about him being the best WR on the Cowboys is asinine. They are hiding him in the slot often and he is toasting slot corners and LBs. Week 1 Ramsey was on Gallup and Gallup was getting the better of the matchup. Defenses have also been focusing on stopping Cooper, not Lamb. Id like to see Lamp post up outside vs a defenses top corner before I start anointing him. I have seen in numerous places Lamb is now a dynasty WR 1. If that is the case I would be selling if I can get that type of return.
Trying to hold back my bias as an owner, however idk if your necessarily being fair to the kid. What do you expect these "experts" to say? he was arguably the best wr coming out of the draft, and has proven it thus far.

He might be toasting slot cb's and LB's rn, but isnt that what good wr's are supposed to do? I'm not going to argue he's better than coop or gallup rn, but he's also a rookie, i wouldnt expect him to be.

I know your not new to this, why wouldnt his value be tied to what he can be, and not what he is right now? thats what dynasty is for rookies. If there is anyone in the world that values him less than a wr1 in dynasty they're out of their minds.

I didnt draft him as early as i did because i thought he'd turn into a solid wr2. I picked him that early because I thought he'd turn into an elite wr1. and if he continues to develop and improve, thats exactly what he looks like he'll be.
His entire point about these "experts" was he wasn't better than Cooper and people were saying he was. He's a Cowboys fan, FWIW. I don't understand why so many around here jump to such extremes. So if I don't value Lamb as a top twelve WR, I'm out of my mind? Come of it. People can value players differently, why such an absolutist stance?

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:46 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:39 am
ThunderTung wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:27 am
Bot101 wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:54 am
His hype is a raging inferno, and I need to throw a little cold water. Yeah, he is absolutely taking advantage of the opportunities hes being given. He is obviously talented and belongs on an NFL field. But this nonsense I am starting to see about him being the best WR on the Cowboys is asinine. They are hiding him in the slot often and he is toasting slot corners and LBs. Week 1 Ramsey was on Gallup and Gallup was getting the better of the matchup. Defenses have also been focusing on stopping Cooper, not Lamb. Id like to see Lamp post up outside vs a defenses top corner before I start anointing him. I have seen in numerous places Lamb is now a dynasty WR 1. If that is the case I would be selling if I can get that type of return.
Trying to hold back my bias as an owner, however idk if your necessarily being fair to the kid. What do you expect these "experts" to say? he was arguably the best wr coming out of the draft, and has proven it thus far.

He might be toasting slot cb's and LB's rn, but isnt that what good wr's are supposed to do? I'm not going to argue he's better than coop or gallup rn, but he's also a rookie, i wouldnt expect him to be.

I know your not new to this, why wouldnt his value be tied to what he can be, and not what he is right now? thats what dynasty is for rookies. If there is anyone in the world that values him less than a wr1 in dynasty they're out of their minds.

I didnt draft him as early as i did because i thought he'd turn into a solid wr2. I picked him that early because I thought he'd turn into an elite wr1. and if he continues to develop and improve, thats exactly what he looks like he'll be.
His entire point was he wasn't better than Cooper and people were saying he was.
Not exactly, he said "I have seen in numerous places Lamb is now a dynasty WR 1." Which is quite frankly a decent valuation IN DYNASTY, because current production is not always a direct correlation to their value. For example Julio Jones is obviously a far superior player to Lamb right now, both for real football and fantasy, but I guarantee you'll have a tough time in a lot of leagues being able to trade Julio for Lamb straight up. So no Lamb is not currently a WR1 when it comes to production, but him being valued that way as a dynasty asset is not that far off if not completely accurate.

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:48 am

bjd5211 wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:46 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:39 am
ThunderTung wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:27 am


Trying to hold back my bias as an owner, however idk if your necessarily being fair to the kid. What do you expect these "experts" to say? he was arguably the best wr coming out of the draft, and has proven it thus far.

He might be toasting slot cb's and LB's rn, but isnt that what good wr's are supposed to do? I'm not going to argue he's better than coop or gallup rn, but he's also a rookie, i wouldnt expect him to be.

I know your not new to this, why wouldnt his value be tied to what he can be, and not what he is right now? thats what dynasty is for rookies. If there is anyone in the world that values him less than a wr1 in dynasty they're out of their minds.

I didnt draft him as early as i did because i thought he'd turn into a solid wr2. I picked him that early because I thought he'd turn into an elite wr1. and if he continues to develop and improve, thats exactly what he looks like he'll be.
His entire point was he wasn't better than Cooper and people were saying he was.
Not exactly, he said "I have seen in numerous places Lamb is now a dynasty WR 1." Which is quite frankly a decent valuation IN DYNASTY, because current production is not always a direct correlation to their value. For example Julio Jones is obviously a far superior player to Lamb right now, both for real football and fantasy, but I guarantee you'll have a tough time in a lot of leagues being able to trade Julio for Lamb straight up. So no Lamb is not currently a WR1 when it comes to production, but him being valued that way as a dynasty asset is not that far off if not completely accurate.
No, he was answering my post about nobody thinking he was better than Cooper, at actual football right now, when he mentioned the "experts". His comment about Dynasty WR1 was a different point.

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Re: CeeDee Lamb

Postby ThunderTung » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:50 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:39 am
ThunderTung wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:27 am
Bot101 wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:54 am
His hype is a raging inferno, and I need to throw a little cold water. Yeah, he is absolutely taking advantage of the opportunities hes being given. He is obviously talented and belongs on an NFL field. But this nonsense I am starting to see about him being the best WR on the Cowboys is asinine. They are hiding him in the slot often and he is toasting slot corners and LBs. Week 1 Ramsey was on Gallup and Gallup was getting the better of the matchup. Defenses have also been focusing on stopping Cooper, not Lamb. Id like to see Lamp post up outside vs a defenses top corner before I start anointing him. I have seen in numerous places Lamb is now a dynasty WR 1. If that is the case I would be selling if I can get that type of return.
Trying to hold back my bias as an owner, however idk if your necessarily being fair to the kid. What do you expect these "experts" to say? he was arguably the best wr coming out of the draft, and has proven it thus far.

He might be toasting slot cb's and LB's rn, but isnt that what good wr's are supposed to do? I'm not going to argue he's better than coop or gallup rn, but he's also a rookie, i wouldnt expect him to be.

I know your not new to this, why wouldnt his value be tied to what he can be, and not what he is right now? thats what dynasty is for rookies. If there is anyone in the world that values him less than a wr1 in dynasty they're out of their minds.

I didnt draft him as early as i did because i thought he'd turn into a solid wr2. I picked him that early because I thought he'd turn into an elite wr1. and if he continues to develop and improve, thats exactly what he looks like he'll be.
His entire point about these "experts" was he wasn't better than Cooper and people were saying he was. He's a Cowboys fan, FWIW. I don't understand why so many around here jump to such extremes. So if I don't value Lamb as a top twelve WR, I'm out of my mind? Come of it. People can value players differently, why such an absolutist stance?
his entire point was delegitimizing the hype, and i just don't think thats fair. We all know things over exaggerated in the fantasy community, albeit i dont really pay attention to these "experts" if they're anointing him a hof already yea they need to slow down, however saying he's a wr1 IN DYNASTY is not crazy by any stretch of the imagination. to answer your question, yes. If you sold Lamb for less than a wr1 price tag,
i'd believe you are out of your mind
12 man IDP 0.5 ppr
Picks(2021):2-1st, 3-2nds, 3rd, 2-4ths
QB(1): Mayfield
RB(2): Sanders/Harris
WR(2): Edelman/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Mattison/Kirk
K: Jake Elliot
DL(2): Yannick/Allen
LB(2): Hicks/J. Smith
DB(2) Devin McCourty/Mathieu
FLEX: Murray

Bench:
QB: Foles/Hurts
RB: Barber/JJ Taylor/Burkhead/Ollison
WR: S. Miller/Sims/Campbell/Robinson/ KJ Hill
TE: Witten/Gronk/Sternberger/Asiasi/Keene
DL: Linval/Vea
LB: Chubb/Barrett/Whitehead/Bentley/Vigil/Jones
DB: Gilmore


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