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Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:15 am
by briank
Who are the players you are buying low and selling high?

Guys I'm kicking the tires on:

McCaffrey
Mixon
M. Thomas
Barkley
Sutton

What say you?

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:30 am
by CGW
I would kick around buying any of those players if they are being sold low.

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:37 am
by bjd5211
Julio is always criminally undervalued in the trade market, any serious contender with a less than perfect WR group should be inquiring about him if he's owned by a non-contender in their league.

Signed a Julio owner with a rebuild team in a league where no one is even willing to trade a late 1st for him.

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:39 am
by Orenthal Shames
bjd5211 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:37 am
Julio is always criminally undervalued in the trade market, any serious contender with a less than perfect WR group should be inquiring about him if he's owned by a non-contender in their league.

Signed a Julio owner with a rebuild team in a league where no one is even willing to trade a late 1st for him.
He has been for years too. I bought him cheap 3 years ago. His value was suppressed then. At this rate, he'll likely retire on my roster.

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:53 am
by Pac_Eddy
Orenthal Shames wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:39 am
bjd5211 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:37 am
Julio is always criminally undervalued in the trade market, any serious contender with a less than perfect WR group should be inquiring about him if he's owned by a non-contender in their league.

Signed a Julio owner with a rebuild team in a league where no one is even willing to trade a late 1st for him.
He has been for years too. I bought him cheap 3 years ago. His value was suppressed then. At this rate, he'll likely retire on my roster.
Well, he currently has a hamstring injury. There's always some nagging issue with him. I think those who have owned him know the frustrations that don't show up in the final stats.

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:55 am
by bjd5211
Pac_Eddy wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:53 am
Orenthal Shames wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:39 am
bjd5211 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:37 am
Julio is always criminally undervalued in the trade market, any serious contender with a less than perfect WR group should be inquiring about him if he's owned by a non-contender in their league.

Signed a Julio owner with a rebuild team in a league where no one is even willing to trade a late 1st for him.
He has been for years too. I bought him cheap 3 years ago. His value was suppressed then. At this rate, he'll likely retire on my roster.
Well, he currently has a hamstring injury. There's always some nagging issue with him. I think those who have owned him know the frustrations that don't show up in the final stats.
All WRs are up and done for different reasons, Julio is a lock to be a top 10 WR at the end of the year every year basically his entire career.

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:24 am
by StripesOfKC
Buy low Allen Robinson

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:41 am
by John Paul
Has anyone seen any Sutton trades go down? What was the price?

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:03 pm
by remedy29
To me, buy low discussions should be around players preceived ADP value, not stud players whose value has been lowered due to injury. So with that said;

RBs;
- Lev Bell, he has the respect and contract to demand touches when he returns. Everyone is down on the Jets offense, they can only go up when Lev Bell returns and the WRs return.
- Carson ADP per Mizelle is RB29, he routinely outperforms that. Seattle offense is scoring lots of points this year.
- David Johnson, ADP RB27, he looks good so far.
- Damian Harris, do you think he gets a legit shot this year when he returns?

WR;
Diontae Johnson, ADP WR40. He looks to be top 15 WR now. He is just getting warmed up with Big Ben.
- Shenault. He sure looks to have been worthy of a late
first rookie pick, not a late 2nd that people valued him as.
- Darrius Slayton, WE46. He most certainly will finish better than that.
- Robby Anderson WR66. Clearly poor ADP ranking on a quality WR.
- Allen Robinson. Chicago will be turning to Foles soon enough, Robinson stats will likely increase.

QB;
- Cam Newton. The guy is going to finish top 5 in QBs and is neat as good as any QB this year.

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:07 pm
by murphysxm
remedy29 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:03 pm
To me, buy low discussions should be around players preceived ADP value, not stud players whose value has been lowered due to injury. So with that said;

RBs;
- Lev Bell, he has the respect and contract to demand touches when he returns. Everyone is down on the Jets offense, they can only go up when Lev Bell returns and the WRs return.
- Carson ADP per Mizelle is RB29, he routinely outperforms that. Seattle offense is scoring lots of points this year.
- David Johnson, ADP RB27, he looks good so far.
- Damian Harris, do you think he gets a legit shot this year when he returns?

WR;
Diontae Johnson, ADP WR40. He looks to be top 15 WR now. He is just getting warmed up with Big Ben.
- Shenault. He sure looks to have been worthy of a late
first rookie pick, not a late 2nd that people valued him as.
- Darrius Slayton, WE46. He most certainly will finish better than that.
- Robby Anderson WR66. Clearly poor ADP ranking on a quality WR.
- Allen Robinson. Chicago will be turning to Files, Robinson stats will likely increase.

QB;
- Cam Newton. The guy is going to finish top 5 in QBs and is neat as good as any QB this year.
You can't base buy low status on preseason ranks. There is not a owner of any of those WRs or Cam that would sell low right now. Targeting people that are outperforming expectation is a odd approach to buy low....

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:15 pm
by Mjvb5
John Paul wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:41 am
Has anyone seen any Sutton trades go down? What was the price?
Don't know if it helps but early favourite was a sutton owner in my league approached me for DK (I'm rebuilding so sutton IR wouldn't hurt)

Offered sutton, mid 2nd, darnell mooney for DK. I said I'd need more and talks ended there

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:20 pm
by remedy29
For some players, I'd agree. What would you pay for Diontae Johnson?

DLF trade analyzer says he is worth less than a 1st. I say he is easily worth a 1st. If you can get him for any less, that is a buy low.

Besides CAM, have the other players clearly outperformed their preseason ADP? Robby Anderson has, but by his ADP indicates, people do not respect his talent and underrate him. If you believe in him, he can still be a buy low.

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:22 pm
by Mjvb5
remedy29 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:20 pm
For some players, I'd agree. What would you pay for Diontae Johnson?

DLF trade analyzer says he is worth less than a 1st. I say he is easily worth a 1st. If you can get him for any less, that is a buy low.

Besides CAM, have the other players clearly outperformed their preseason ADP? Robby Anderson has, but by his ADP indicates, people do not respect his talent and underrate him. If you believe in him, he can still be a buy low.
Lowest value I've seen from a diontae owner was a mid first so far. Most wanted a first before the season started and have since bumped him to a pair of firsts or an early first.

Robby same thing but they all want a 2nd for him.

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:25 pm
by remedy29
Mjvb5 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:15 pm
John Paul wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:41 am
Has anyone seen any Sutton trades go down? What was the price?
Don't know if it helps but early favourite was a sutton owner in my league approached me for DK (I'm rebuilding so sutton IR didn't hurt)

Offered sutton, mid 2nd, darnell mooney for DK
Are you saying you traded DK and was on the receiving end for Sutton??? I hope not. Your comment "I'm rebuilding so Sutton IR didn't hurt" is misleading me.

Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:46 pm
by remedy29
Mjvb5 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:22 pm
remedy29 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:20 pm
For some players, I'd agree. What would you pay for Diontae Johnson?

DLF trade analyzer says he is worth less than a 1st. I say he is easily worth a 1st. If you can get him for any less, that is a buy low.

Besides CAM, have the other players clearly outperformed their preseason ADP? Robby Anderson has, but by his ADP indicates, people do not respect his talent and underrate him. If you believe in him, he can still be a buy low.
Lowest value I've seen from a diontae owner was a mid first so far. Most wanted a first before the season started and have since bumped him to a pair of firsts or an early first.

Robby same thing but they all want a 2nd for him.
I'd want a 1st plus for Diontae too if I owned him.

For the other players, you need to identify lower valued players who will return a greater return for a buy low discussions.

Is Robby Anderson for a second a buy low? I say yes. And that's a trade that could be made.

Even Cam Newton, I would think most of his owners have moved on and have another QB they are rolling with. If so, CAM could potentially be had at a discount.