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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby killer_of_giants » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:04 am

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Wow, from reaching to overreacting in such a short period of time!
the average is about right though!


is rodgers a sell high? (he'll probably be a sell higher after the falcons)

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:35 am

Does anyone think OBJ is a buy low? Seems like henis still getting open at will or drawing pass interference penalties. Baker couldn't hit the broad side of a barn though. Do we buy the talent in dynasty or do we sell low on this dumpster fire of a situation for OBJ that may not change for awhile?
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1 PPR, 1 points every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 4 points per 100 passing, 4 point passing TDs, -2 INT.

TE premium 1.5 PPR and 1 point per 8.5 yards receiving.

QB- Russel Wilson, Joe Burrow, Matt Ryan, Tua Tagovailoa

RB -CEH, Kalen Ballage, Justin Jackson(ir), Chris Thopmson, Ryan Nall, Devine Ogzibo

WR - OBJ(IR), JuJu, Keenan Allen, DJ Chark, Tyler Boyd, Brandon Aiyuck,

TE - Dallas Goedert, Noah Fant, Gerald Everett, Logan Thomas, Drew Sample, Robert Tonyan, Dalton Schultz

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:00 am

SteveMaddensShoes wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:35 am
Does anyone think OBJ is a buy low? Seems like henis still getting open at will or drawing pass interference penalties. Baker couldn't hit the broad side of a barn though. Do we buy the talent in dynasty or do we sell low on this dumpster fire of a situation for OBJ that may not change for awhile?
Not really. I can't see much changing unless he gets traded. I think he said himself he won't be a good fantasy player. LOL. TBH, OBJ hasn't been elite for a long time. His best years are behind him, IMO. I'm not willing to pay the price, and invest in that passing offense.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:32 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:00 am
SteveMaddensShoes wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:35 am
Does anyone think OBJ is a buy low? Seems like henis still getting open at will or drawing pass interference penalties. Baker couldn't hit the broad side of a barn though. Do we buy the talent in dynasty or do we sell low on this dumpster fire of a situation for OBJ that may not change for awhile?
Not really. I can't see much changing unless he gets traded. I think he said himself he won't be a good fantasy player. LOL. TBH, OBJ hasn't been elite for a long time. His best years are behind him, IMO. I'm not willing to pay the price, and invest in that passing offense.
I think the price is really low though. I coukd see the situation changing within a year or two. I wouldnt be surprised if you could get him for a Ruggs type player tbh.

I guess i still think he is uncoverable if he wants to be so the talent is there and the situation isnt. Kind of a deandre swift situation. We aremt paying for him this year but maybe next year or the next.
12 man Superflex deep starting requirements with even scoring among positions

11 starters - QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Superflex, Flex, Flex, Flex.

1 PPR, 1 points every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 4 points per 100 passing, 4 point passing TDs, -2 INT.

TE premium 1.5 PPR and 1 point per 8.5 yards receiving.

QB- Russel Wilson, Joe Burrow, Matt Ryan, Tua Tagovailoa

RB -CEH, Kalen Ballage, Justin Jackson(ir), Chris Thopmson, Ryan Nall, Devine Ogzibo

WR - OBJ(IR), JuJu, Keenan Allen, DJ Chark, Tyler Boyd, Brandon Aiyuck,

TE - Dallas Goedert, Noah Fant, Gerald Everett, Logan Thomas, Drew Sample, Robert Tonyan, Dalton Schultz

IR- Quez Watkins,

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby nathanq42 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:43 am

I cant believe how excited I was for OBJ in CLE, Baker really fell off hard after his rookie season though
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby joeya2001 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:49 am

Its funny this off season I traded OBJ for Ridley and some on here thought I should have kept OBJ.

Sometimes you just have to trust your gut.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Life of Pablo » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:52 am

SteveMaddensShoes wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:32 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:00 am
SteveMaddensShoes wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:35 am
Does anyone think OBJ is a buy low? Seems like henis still getting open at will or drawing pass interference penalties. Baker couldn't hit the broad side of a barn though. Do we buy the talent in dynasty or do we sell low on this dumpster fire of a situation for OBJ that may not change for awhile?
Not really. I can't see much changing unless he gets traded. I think he said himself he won't be a good fantasy player. LOL. TBH, OBJ hasn't been elite for a long time. His best years are behind him, IMO. I'm not willing to pay the price, and invest in that passing offense.
I think the price is really low though. I coukd see the situation changing within a year or two. I wouldnt be surprised if you could get him for a Ruggs type player tbh.

I guess i still think he is uncoverable if he wants to be so the talent is there and the situation isnt. Kind of a deandre swift situation. We aremt paying for him this year but maybe next year or the next.
I think he's one of those guys where it really just depends on the OBJ owners in your league. For some people he still carries a lot of name value alone. So his value likely varies a lot from person to person. Me personally, I still value him pretty highly... but so does the owner in my league lol.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:52 am

SteveMaddensShoes wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:32 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:00 am
SteveMaddensShoes wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:35 am
Does anyone think OBJ is a buy low? Seems like henis still getting open at will or drawing pass interference penalties. Baker couldn't hit the broad side of a barn though. Do we buy the talent in dynasty or do we sell low on this dumpster fire of a situation for OBJ that may not change for awhile?
Not really. I can't see much changing unless he gets traded. I think he said himself he won't be a good fantasy player. LOL. TBH, OBJ hasn't been elite for a long time. His best years are behind him, IMO. I'm not willing to pay the price, and invest in that passing offense.
I think the price is really low though. I coukd see the situation changing within a year or two. I wouldnt be surprised if you could get him for a Ruggs type player tbh.

I guess i still think he is uncoverable if he wants to be so the talent is there and the situation isnt. Kind of a deandre swift situation. We aremt paying for him this year but maybe next year or the next.
I'd rather have Ruggs in Dynasty, TBH. He's about to turn 28, so we're talking buying for 29, 30? I'd rather see what Ruggs has, in a few years when he's acclimated and improved his route running, I think he has a very high ceiling. As I said, I think OBJ's best days for FF are behind him.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Life of Pablo » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:03 pm

Would you guys consider DJ Moore to be a good (relative) buy low, both for this year and dynasty? I feel like there's a small window open with his kinda slow start this year, at least with the owner in my league. Have been thinking of offering Evans + Gurley for him.

On that note, any other top RB/WR targets I can go after with an Evans/Gurley package? :lol: Love both of them, but I feel like I don't need either of them and they have more name value than actual production at this point. Maybe I'm just worried though. They feel like sell high's, for my team at least.
10-team standard, 18-man rosters (plus K/D + 1 IR + 2 TAXI)
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2020: 9-4, 2nd (AP: 91-26 / 77.8%, 1st) ||| Champion
QB: Russ, Hurts, Wentz
RB: Chubb, JRob, Swift, DJ, Bell, Gurley
WR: Nuk, Diggs, Keenan, Evans, Hollywood, Mooney, Preston, Van
TE: Kelce, Fant
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:08 pm

Life of Pablo wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:03 pm
Would you guys consider DJ Moore to be a good (relative) buy low, both for this year and dynasty? I feel like there's a small window open with his kinda slow start this year, at least with the owner in my league. Have been thinking of offering Evans + Gurley for him.

On that note, any other top RB/WR targets I can go after with an Evans/Gurley package? :lol: Love both of them, but I feel like I don't need either of them and they have more name value than actual production at this point. Maybe I'm just worried though. They feel like sell high's, for my team at least.
I don't have DJM ahead of Evans, though he could make the move within a couple years. I think DJM is underrated but Evans is as well(and always has been and probably always will be) I don't think you should have to add. If your partner is contending he might just take the trade straight across.
12 man Superflex deep starting requirements with even scoring among positions

11 starters - QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, Superflex, Flex, Flex, Flex.

1 PPR, 1 points every 10 yards rushing/receiving, 4 points per 100 passing, 4 point passing TDs, -2 INT.

TE premium 1.5 PPR and 1 point per 8.5 yards receiving.

QB- Russel Wilson, Joe Burrow, Matt Ryan, Tua Tagovailoa

RB -CEH, Kalen Ballage, Justin Jackson(ir), Chris Thopmson, Ryan Nall, Devine Ogzibo

WR - OBJ(IR), JuJu, Keenan Allen, DJ Chark, Tyler Boyd, Brandon Aiyuck,

TE - Dallas Goedert, Noah Fant, Gerald Everett, Logan Thomas, Drew Sample, Robert Tonyan, Dalton Schultz

IR- Quez Watkins,

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:09 pm

Wondering what Evans is going for? He could score 15 TD"s this year, and I think once he gets a bit more time with Brady, he could have a good 2nd half of the year.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby CGW » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:46 pm

Life of Pablo wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:03 pm
Would you guys consider DJ Moore to be a good (relative) buy low, both for this year and dynasty? I feel like there's a small window open with his kinda slow start this year, at least with the owner in my league. Have been thinking of offering Evans + Gurley for him.

On that note, any other top RB/WR targets I can go after with an Evans/Gurley package? :lol: Love both of them, but I feel like I don't need either of them and they have more name value than actual production at this point. Maybe I'm just worried though. They feel like sell high's, for my team at least.
Absolutely, DJM has still commanded 26% of the teams targets. It hasn't translated to fantasy scoring yet this season, but i think Teddy is just a short term obstacle. If he's at any discount, hes worth a buy.

I wouldn't be adding to Evans to get DJM though. Evans is a yearly 1k yards and 8TD guy. Likely will be for several more years.
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RB | Taylor, Gaskin, Singletary, Wilkins, Ahmed, Wilson
WR | Adams, Evans, Golladay, D. Johnson, Miller, G. Davis, Mooney, Pascal, Coutee
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RB | Montgomery, Swift, Dobbins, R. Jones, Singletary, Vaughn
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RB | Hines, Henderson, Wilkins, Penny, Ahmed, Guice
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby hoos89 » Wed Sep 30, 2020 1:00 pm

Life of Pablo wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:03 pm
Would you guys consider DJ Moore to be a good (relative) buy low, both for this year and dynasty? I feel like there's a small window open with his kinda slow start this year, at least with the owner in my league. Have been thinking of offering Evans + Gurley for him.

On that note, any other top RB/WR targets I can go after with an Evans/Gurley package? :lol: Love both of them, but I feel like I don't need either of them and they have more name value than actual production at this point. Maybe I'm just worried though. They feel like sell high's, for my team at least.
DJM is worth kicking the tires on, but I doubt most owners have lowered their ask since August.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Pullo Vision » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:43 pm

To me, this is the "buy high" time- players exceeding expectations so you get them before their value goes too high or they become unavailable. Justin Jefferson is an example, to cut off more big games. Maybe Diontae Johnson. Calvin Ridley is a buy now before he becomes completely unavailable. James Robinson could be in this group, too.

The buy low time will be no earlier than 2 more weeks, after we have info on schemes/roles and whatnot, and hopes have deflated and reality sets in. That's when you pounce on D Swift, Wentz/Reagor, McLaurin, Watson/Fuller.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:57 pm

Pullo Vision wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:43 pm
To me, this is the "buy high" time- players exceeding expectations so you get them before their value goes too high or they become unavailable. Justin Jefferson is an example, to cut off more big games. Maybe Diontae Johnson. Calvin Ridley is a buy now before he becomes completely unavailable. James Robinson could be in this group, too.

The buy low time will be no earlier than 2 more weeks, after we have info on schemes/roles and whatnot, and hopes have deflated and reality sets in. That's when you pounce on D Swift, Wentz/Reagor, McLaurin, Watson/Fuller.
He's not like the other 2. He has to do a lot more before he's as safe a buy as Ridley, and even Johnson. Not sure why McLaurin would be a buy low. He's shown a really solid floor with terrible QB play. Every one of my leagues, the person who rosters him (myself included), knows what they have in him. I could see Fuller owners being fed up, for sure. They might just be passing off the headache, I fear, though. :lol:


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