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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Lumps » Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:56 pm

murphysxm wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:44 pm
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The Godwin Complex wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:12 pm

I actually think James Robinson/Carlos Hyde will be the next coming of MJD/Fred Taylor. It will be fun to watch the resurgence of the Jaguars.
You guys are over here arguing about what's a fair price to pay for Robinson and I'm looking at this here..... :shock: :shock: :shock:

I looked multiple times and I didn't see a hint of sarcasm anywhere...
I will not provide sarcasm, but this is a lofty prediction.
Lofty prediction for the only serviceable piece. I’m sure we know what the other piece is at this point.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby MFundercover » Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:29 pm

I've been a Jrob hater for dynasty but I talked myself in to him. With a weak RB class he probably won't have any serious competition next season. The Jaguars will end up running the ball more in 2021 than they did in 2020, so his touches should remain the same as long as he maintains around ~65% of the backfield. And as long as he plays well, I think he will be seen as a proven NFL talent going forward.

It isn't unprecedented to have a udfa running back become the starter. Fred Jackson, Priest Holmes, Arian Foster, Austin Ekeler, and I would argue Chris Carson was in the same position as a 7th.

Some people look at Phillip Lindsay as a comparison but they aren't the same player. Lindsay is a 190 pound early down back that couldn't play 3rd downs. Robinson has 30 pounds on Lindsay and can play 3rd downs. Hes a much better player overall.

Hes a risk, but all things considered I think there's more reason to be optimistic about him rather than assuming he will ultimately be replaced.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby The MAC Machine » Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:10 am

bjd5211 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:42 pm
Lumps wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:40 pm
The Godwin Complex wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:12 pm

I actually think James Robinson/Carlos Hyde will be the next coming of MJD/Fred Taylor. It will be fun to watch the resurgence of the Jaguars.
You guys are over here arguing about what's a fair price to pay for Robinson and I'm looking at this here..... :shock: :shock: :shock:

I looked multiple times and I didn't see a hint of sarcasm anywhere...
Carlos Hyde and Travis Fulgham are league winners, duh...
I can eat crow on Fulgham. But Hyde has shown to be a very serviceable backup. Low cost insurance piece for a low cost investment = high ROI. Not a guy that wins you championships. But could be a guy that helps you get there when things are getting rocky.
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12 TEAM SUPERFLEX PPR
START: QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 SUPERFLEX
ROSTER STARTERS
QB: S. Darnold (CAR)
RB: J. Jacobs (LV), L. Fournette (TB)
WR: Cooper (DAL), Ridley (ATL), M. Williams (LAC)
TE: R. Seals-Jones (WAS), M. Alie-Cox (IND)
FLEX: Sutton (DEN), J. Smith-Schuster (PIT), D. Harris (NE)
SUPERFLEX: M. Jones (NE)


BENCH:
QB: Rudolph (PIT), Book (NO), Minshew (PHL), Stidham (NE)
RB: Cord. Patterson (ATL), A. Collins (SEA), D. Dallas (SEA), K. Vaughn (TB), JJ Taylor (NE), S. Perine (CIN)
WR: M. Jones (JAX), Zaccheus (ATL), G. Olszewski (NE)
TE: B. Jarwin (DAL), D. Asiasi (NE)
IR: Tre' Q. Smith (NO), Tyrod Taylor (HOU), Chark Jr (JAX), R. Penny (SEA)

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Lumps » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:31 am

The Godwin Complex wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:10 am
bjd5211 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:42 pm
Lumps wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:40 pm

You guys are over here arguing about what's a fair price to pay for Robinson and I'm looking at this here..... :shock: :shock: :shock:

I looked multiple times and I didn't see a hint of sarcasm anywhere...
Carlos Hyde and Travis Fulgham are league winners, duh...
I can eat crow on Fulgham. But Hyde has shown to be a very serviceable backup. Low cost insurance piece for a low cost investment = high ROI. Not a guy that wins you championships. But could be a guy that helps you get there when things are getting rocky.
That's totally what I think of when I think of MJD or Taylor, whichever isn't being related to Robinson. Which, is a massive leap in itself.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby The MAC Machine » Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:33 pm

Lumps wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:31 am
The Godwin Complex wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:10 am
bjd5211 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:42 pm

Carlos Hyde and Travis Fulgham are league winners, duh...
I can eat crow on Fulgham. But Hyde has shown to be a very serviceable backup. Low cost insurance piece for a low cost investment = high ROI. Not a guy that wins you championships. But could be a guy that helps you get there when things are getting rocky.
That's totally what I think of when I think of MJD or Taylor, whichever isn't being related to Robinson. Which, is a massive leap in itself.
slice the pie however you'd like. My point was that they will be deployed similarly to MJD/Fred Taylor as a 1-2 punch. Had nothing to do with comparing their fantasy values.
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12 TEAM SUPERFLEX PPR
START: QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 SUPERFLEX
ROSTER STARTERS
QB: S. Darnold (CAR)
RB: J. Jacobs (LV), L. Fournette (TB)
WR: Cooper (DAL), Ridley (ATL), M. Williams (LAC)
TE: R. Seals-Jones (WAS), M. Alie-Cox (IND)
FLEX: Sutton (DEN), J. Smith-Schuster (PIT), D. Harris (NE)
SUPERFLEX: M. Jones (NE)


BENCH:
QB: Rudolph (PIT), Book (NO), Minshew (PHL), Stidham (NE)
RB: Cord. Patterson (ATL), A. Collins (SEA), D. Dallas (SEA), K. Vaughn (TB), JJ Taylor (NE), S. Perine (CIN)
WR: M. Jones (JAX), Zaccheus (ATL), G. Olszewski (NE)
TE: B. Jarwin (DAL), D. Asiasi (NE)
IR: Tre' Q. Smith (NO), Tyrod Taylor (HOU), Chark Jr (JAX), R. Penny (SEA)

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby StripesOfKC » Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:13 pm

The Godwin Complex wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:33 pm
Lumps wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:31 am
The Godwin Complex wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 6:10 am

I can eat crow on Fulgham. But Hyde has shown to be a very serviceable backup. Low cost insurance piece for a low cost investment = high ROI. Not a guy that wins you championships. But could be a guy that helps you get there when things are getting rocky.
That's totally what I think of when I think of MJD or Taylor, whichever isn't being related to Robinson. Which, is a massive leap in itself.
slice the pie however you'd like. My point was that they will be deployed similarly to MJD/Fred Taylor as a 1-2 punch. Had nothing to do with comparing their fantasy values.
Except not even close to 30% as good?

That's like saying Jalen Hurts to Jalen Reagor will be used similarly to McNabb to TO because they're both QB-WR combos...

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby The MAC Machine » Fri Apr 09, 2021 7:16 am

StripesOfKC wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:13 pm
The Godwin Complex wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:33 pm
Lumps wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:31 am

That's totally what I think of when I think of MJD or Taylor, whichever isn't being related to Robinson. Which, is a massive leap in itself.
slice the pie however you'd like. My point was that they will be deployed similarly to MJD/Fred Taylor as a 1-2 punch. Had nothing to do with comparing their fantasy values.
Except not even close to 30% as good?

That's like saying Jalen Hurts to Jalen Reagor will be used similarly to McNabb to TO because they're both QB-WR combos...
That’s not anything like what I’m saying. I think the Jaguars rushing attack is a bit more complete with Hyde. Towards the end of Fred Taylor’s stint in Jax he was a highly productive backup. I think James Robinson will continue being the 3 down guy. But now the Jags have a solid backup to spell him with. I fully expect their rushing attack and offensive mentality to evolve this year. They may not be as highly regarded as MJD/Fred Taylor, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t in a position to be highly productive.
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12 TEAM SUPERFLEX PPR
START: QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 SUPERFLEX
ROSTER STARTERS
QB: S. Darnold (CAR)
RB: J. Jacobs (LV), L. Fournette (TB)
WR: Cooper (DAL), Ridley (ATL), M. Williams (LAC)
TE: R. Seals-Jones (WAS), M. Alie-Cox (IND)
FLEX: Sutton (DEN), J. Smith-Schuster (PIT), D. Harris (NE)
SUPERFLEX: M. Jones (NE)


BENCH:
QB: Rudolph (PIT), Book (NO), Minshew (PHL), Stidham (NE)
RB: Cord. Patterson (ATL), A. Collins (SEA), D. Dallas (SEA), K. Vaughn (TB), JJ Taylor (NE), S. Perine (CIN)
WR: M. Jones (JAX), Zaccheus (ATL), G. Olszewski (NE)
TE: B. Jarwin (DAL), D. Asiasi (NE)
IR: Tre' Q. Smith (NO), Tyrod Taylor (HOU), Chark Jr (JAX), R. Penny (SEA)

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Bronco Billy » Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:11 am

I think Armstead is a bigger threat to Robinson than Hyde is. He was set to start last year until the whole COVID thing derailed him. Armstead is s complete wildcard right now.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby MFundercover » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:28 pm

I actually just scooped Armstead in my league. I think he will battle with Hyde in camp for that backup role.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Pac_Eddy » Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:44 pm

MFundercover wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:28 pm I actually just scooped Armstead in my league. I think he will battle with Hyde in camp for that backup role.
That's a good angle. I'll have to see if Armstead is available in mine.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Sriracha » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:27 pm

My condolences to those that bought high on James Robinson

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby CGW » Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:34 am

I'd say true believers should be probing JR owners.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby esloan35 » Sat May 01, 2021 5:24 pm

This did not age well....

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Champ224 » Sun May 02, 2021 7:01 am

CGW wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:34 am I'd say true believers should be probing JR owners.
This 100%...true definition of buy low...hit hard while the other owners are running scared.

You can likely acquire JRob for a mid 2nd now

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby dark_knite03 » Sun May 02, 2021 9:53 am

Champ224 wrote: Sun May 02, 2021 7:01 am
CGW wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:34 am I'd say true believers should be probing JR owners.
This 100%...true definition of buy low...hit hard while the other owners are running scared.

You can likely acquire JRob for a mid 2nd now
Maybe from a rebuilding squad. However I don't see any contender making that trade.
Est '17 12 Team 1PPR 4-Pass 6-Rush/Recieve TD
Start QB RB RB WR WR TE FX FX SF K DL LB DB
Champion 2021.
Geno, Tlaw, M Jones, D.Carr, White
JT, A Jones, Dobbins,Monty,D.Harris, Reyonds
Dillon,Kelley, Warren, Miller, Hill, Penny, Rivers
Diggs, AJB, Jefferson, Chase, Claypool, Juedy, Deebo,WanDale, Mingo, Boutte
Kittle, Andrews,Njoku
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QB RB RB WR WR WR/RB TE FX SF K D
Dak, Wilson, Watson
Henry, Chubb, ETN, Swift, Gus, Strong, Ford, Spiller, Chandler, Spears
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