Buy Low/Sell High

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby MrUbuto » Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:57 pm

If you're a contender AJG could be a great buy low.

He can probably be had for a low 2nd or 3rd even

He looked pretty good week 1 embarrassingly bad week 2. Burrow is the man and AJG will have some nice wr1 weeks from time to time

If he stays healthy he will definitely find his way into your starting line up the way the injuries to big names are piling up.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Mjvb5 » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:07 pm

remedy29 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:25 pm
Mjvb5 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:15 pm
John Paul wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:41 am
Has anyone seen any Sutton trades go down? What was the price?
Don't know if it helps but early favourite was a sutton owner in my league approached me for DK (I'm rebuilding so sutton IR didn't hurt)

Offered sutton, mid 2nd, darnell mooney for DK
Are you saying you traded DK and was on the receiving end for Sutton??? I hope not. Your comment "I'm rebuilding so Sutton IR didn't hurt" is misleading me.
Sorry I'll edit that. Didn't shoulda been wouldn't.

I said I needed more and talks ended at that.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby briank » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:11 pm

John Paul wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:41 am
Has anyone seen any Sutton trades go down? What was the price?
Not straight up, but this happened today in 1 of my leagues:

AJ Brown
Marquise Brown

Sutton
Vaughn
Higgins
Mid/late 1st
3rd
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Mayfield/Winston
RB Mixon/A. Jones/Ja. Williams/Bernard/AP
WR Hopkins/Thomas/DJ Moore/Robinson/Jeffery/Preston Williams
TE Ertz/Cook/Hurst

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Roethlisberger/Fitzpatrick
RB Cook/Mixon/J. Robinson/Ja. Williams/Hines
WR Evans/Woods/Cooks/Fuller/AB/Miller/Diontae Johnson
TE Kittle/Henry/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Burrow
RB Jacobs/Dobbins/Bernard/Dillon/Edwards
WR Adams/Diggs/AJ Brown/Woods/Cooks/Ruggs/Davis
TE Engram/Henry/Hurst/Njoku/Irv Smith

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 11
QB Jackson/Brees/Rivers
RB Da. Johnson/Gurley
WR Adams/Hopkins/Julio/Thielen/Hilton
TE Kelce/Ertz/Irv

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Goff/Herbert/Tua
RB
WR Juju/Sutton/Juedy/Jefferson/Samuel
TE Kittle/Fant/Njoku
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby briank » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:29 pm

remedy29 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:03 pm
To me, buy low discussions should be around players preceived ADP value, not stud players whose value has been lowered due to injury. So with that said;

RBs;
- Lev Bell, he has the respect and contract to demand touches when he returns. Everyone is down on the Jets offense, they can only go up when Lev Bell returns and the WRs return.
- Carson ADP per Mizelle is RB29, he routinely outperforms that. Seattle offense is scoring lots of points this year.
- David Johnson, ADP RB27, he looks good so far.
- Damian Harris, do you think he gets a legit shot this year when he returns?

WR;
Diontae Johnson, ADP WR40. He looks to be top 15 WR now. He is just getting warmed up with Big Ben.
- Shenault. He sure looks to have been worthy of a late
first rookie pick, not a late 2nd that people valued him as.
- Darrius Slayton, WE46. He most certainly will finish better than that.
- Robby Anderson WR66. Clearly poor ADP ranking on a quality WR.
- Allen Robinson. Chicago will be turning to Foles soon enough, Robinson stats will likely increase.

QB;
- Cam Newton. The guy is going to finish top 5 in QBs and is neat as good as any QB this year.
I don't see most of these guys as buy low candidates honestly. These are guys who have recently gained value. I can see ARob and maybe Bell as a buy low, but I don't want anything to do with Bell. I'd buy high on Diontae.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Mayfield/Winston
RB Mixon/A. Jones/Ja. Williams/Bernard/AP
WR Hopkins/Thomas/DJ Moore/Robinson/Jeffery/Preston Williams
TE Ertz/Cook/Hurst

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Roethlisberger/Fitzpatrick
RB Cook/Mixon/J. Robinson/Ja. Williams/Hines
WR Evans/Woods/Cooks/Fuller/AB/Miller/Diontae Johnson
TE Kittle/Henry/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Burrow
RB Jacobs/Dobbins/Bernard/Dillon/Edwards
WR Adams/Diggs/AJ Brown/Woods/Cooks/Ruggs/Davis
TE Engram/Henry/Hurst/Njoku/Irv Smith

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 11
QB Jackson/Brees/Rivers
RB Da. Johnson/Gurley
WR Adams/Hopkins/Julio/Thielen/Hilton
TE Kelce/Ertz/Irv

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Goff/Herbert/Tua
RB
WR Juju/Sutton/Juedy/Jefferson/Samuel
TE Kittle/Fant/Njoku
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby briank » Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:31 pm

remedy29 wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:20 pm
For some players, I'd agree. What would you pay for Diontae Johnson?

DLF trade analyzer says he is worth less than a 1st. I say he is easily worth a 1st. If you can get him for any less, that is a buy low.

Besides CAM, have the other players clearly outperformed their preseason ADP? Robby Anderson has, but by his ADP indicates, people do not respect his talent and underrate him. If you believe in him, he can still be a buy low.
I'd pay a late 1st.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Mayfield/Winston
RB Mixon/A. Jones/Ja. Williams/Bernard/AP
WR Hopkins/Thomas/DJ Moore/Robinson/Jeffery/Preston Williams
TE Ertz/Cook/Hurst

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Roethlisberger/Fitzpatrick
RB Cook/Mixon/J. Robinson/Ja. Williams/Hines
WR Evans/Woods/Cooks/Fuller/AB/Miller/Diontae Johnson
TE Kittle/Henry/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Burrow
RB Jacobs/Dobbins/Bernard/Dillon/Edwards
WR Adams/Diggs/AJ Brown/Woods/Cooks/Ruggs/Davis
TE Engram/Henry/Hurst/Njoku/Irv Smith

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 11
QB Jackson/Brees/Rivers
RB Da. Johnson/Gurley
WR Adams/Hopkins/Julio/Thielen/Hilton
TE Kelce/Ertz/Irv

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Goff/Herbert/Tua
RB
WR Juju/Sutton/Juedy/Jefferson/Samuel
TE Kittle/Fant/Njoku
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Orenthal Shames » Wed Sep 23, 2020 3:57 pm

MrUbuto wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:57 pm
If you're a contender AJG could be a great buy low.

He can probably be had for a low 2nd or 3rd even

He looked pretty good week 1 embarrassingly bad week 2. Burrow is the man and AJG will have some nice wr1 weeks from time to time

If he stays healthy he will definitely find his way into your starting line up the way the injuries to big names are piling up.
The targets are terrific, but he looks washed.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby M-Dub » Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:11 pm

I just recently bought low on Mixon for team 2. Sent DJ, Lockett, a late 1st and a late 3rd for Mixon and an early/mid 2nd. Feel pretty good about it.
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QB: Wilson, Big Ben
RB: CMC, Mixon, Lindsay, Hasty, B. Hill, Ozigbo
WR: Godwin, Golladay, Woods, Keenan, Crowder, Fulgham, Sammy, Tre’Quan
TE: Ertz, Irv Smith, L. Thomas
Taxi: Tua, McFarland, Joe Reed, Hurts

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RB: CMC, Sanders, Mixon, Dobbins, Duke, Hasty
WR: Julio, Viska, Kirk, G. Tate, Tre’Quan, Isabella, Gage, Patrick
TE: Kelce, Olsen, Njoku, OJH
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RB: CEH $26/5, Vaughn $9/4, Edwards $1/1
WR: Godwin $50/3, Hilton $43/1, Fuller $14/1, Crowder $21/1, Sanders $20/1, G. Tate $10/1, Mims $6/5, Edwards $3/5, Hamler $2/3, Patrick $1/1
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby blemly » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:04 pm

Bought both Diontae and Sutton in different rebuild leagues recently. Both non-TEP 12-team PPR SF leagues.

Gave: Andrews + 22 1st + 21 2nd
Got: Diontae + Gibson + Hurst + Shepard

Gave: Akers + Golladay + Ross
Got: Dobbins + Sutton + Mims
Team 1: 12-team 0.5 PPR/1.0 PP1D:
QB: Dak, Cousins, Darnold
RB: CMC, Mixon, Gibson, Guice, Freeman, Cohen, Coleman
WR: DK, Chark, Diontae, Samuel, Hollywood, Shepard, Mims
TE: Hurst, Albert O, Knox
2020: 1, 2

Team 2: 14-team PPR SF TE Prem:
QB: Wilson, Rivers, Foles, Mullens
RB: Mixon, Jacobs, Gibson, Hines, Guice
WR: DJM, Chark, Kupp, Landry, Renfrow
TE: Gesicki, Njoku

Team 3: 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Watson, Rodgers, Cam
RB: Kamara, Jacobs, Dobbins, Hunt
WR: Hill, AJB, McLaurin, Woods, Perriman, Shenault
TE: Gesicki, OJH

Team 4 (Rebuild): 12-team PPR SF TE Prem
QB: Watson, Stafford
RB: Dobbins, Swift, Akers, Gibson
WR: Lamb, Diontae, Pittman, Mims, Shenault, Campbell, Shepard
TE: Knox, Jarwin, Trautman
2021: 1,1,2,2

Team 5 (Rebuild): 12-team PPR SF:
QB: Dak, Lock
RB: Sanders, Dobbins, Guice, Pollard
WR: Sutton, DJM, Edwards, Kirk, Campbell, Mims, Hamler
TE: Herndon, Gesicki
2021: 1,1,1,1, 2, 2

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby azthecrow » Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:10 pm

StripesOfKC wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:24 am
Buy low Allen Robinson
That’s a good one

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby Orenthal Shames » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:19 am

I'm trying my damndest to buy Dionte Johnson.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby sugbear65 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:33 am

How about a few sell highs? I’m listing guys that I don’t necessarily think fall off a cliff or anything. Just don’t think their value climbs any higher this season.

QB- Josh Allen- I love Allen, I’ll start with that. But even I think that his scorching hot start is probably unsustainable. An easy schedule coupled with a deep pass hit rate WELL above his norm equals a probable regression. The rushing yds are nice and will continue, but that also increases the injury risk. Especially with the way he runs, doesn’t seem to be much of a slider. Again, I love Allen and am not actively shopping him where I own him. It’s just I could see right now being the time you could get the very most for him, I’m not sure his value will stay this high all season.

RB- J. Kelley/ J. Robinson/ A. Gibson- again I love Robinson. All these guys are great stories and have been fun to own if you got in on the cheap. And all could possibly net you a 2021 1st right now, possibly more. At that kind of profit margin I would rather sell than risk the bottom falling out. I can understand holding if you are using them and are a legit contender. But the sell high window is definitely wide open right now.

WR- A. Cooper- not sure why I keep listing players I like. Lol. But Dallas has played from way behind the last two weeks, passing the ball A LOT in comeback mode. I’m afraid the target numbers fall when the game script isn’t so negative. A lot of mouths to feed in that offense. I’m not saying he isn’t talented or doesn’t still finish as a WR1 even. Just that his value may not ever go higher this season that it is right now. If you are rebuilding or looking to sell, it’s a good time.

TE- Jonnu Smith- he’s been awesome. But what happens when AJ Brown returns? From what your buy in price was likely at this/previous offseason to where it’s at now, pretty big jump.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby CL3VELANDBR0WNS » Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:12 am

Feel like Deebo is a good buy low. It doesn’t appear like any WRs will separate themselves during his absence. If he gets healthy at a similar time as Garrapolo and maintains/gains on last year’s volume, he can once again be one of the most consistent WRs in fantasy down the stretch. An invaluable thing considering the injuries devastating the landscape.

Preston Williams too. He had two brutal matchups and dropped a touchdown. Averaging 6 targets against two of the toughest matchups in the league hopefully signals 8-10 targets on a juicy matchup.

Finally, Tee Higgins. This is the one rookie I’d be most excited about buying low on. He’s going to have an awful year this season but it looks like Green is near the end and the team would be stupid to draft a WR next year with this OLine.

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby SteveMaddensShoes » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:15 am

CL3VELANDBR0WNS wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:12 am
Feel like Deebo is a good buy low. It doesn’t appear like any WRs will separate themselves during his absence. If he gets healthy at a similar time as Garrapolo and maintains/gains on last year’s volume, he can once again be one of the most consistent WRs in fantasy down the stretch. An invaluable thing considering the injuries devastating the landscape.

Preston Williams too. He had two brutal matchups and dropped a touchdown. Averaging 6 targets against two of the toughest matchups in the league hopefully signals 8-10 targets on a juicy matchup.

Finally, Tee Higgins. This is the one rookie I’d be most excited about buying low on. He’s going to have an awful year this season but it looks like Green is near the end and the team would be stupid to draft a WR next year with this OLine.
Deebo is a good one. What kind of price are you willing to pay? Are a couple 2nds too low? A late 1st seems like what he was already going for.

I'm guessing anyone who drafted Higgins is content to sit on him right now. But if you could get him for a 2nd then I'd be all over it.
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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby briank » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:39 am

M-Dub wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:11 pm
I just recently bought low on Mixon for team 2. Sent DJ, Lockett, a late 1st and a late 3rd for Mixon and an early/mid 2nd. Feel pretty good about it.
So you sent DJ...

Diontae Johnson
David Johnson
DJ Moore
DJ Chark...
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Mayfield/Winston
RB Mixon/A. Jones/Ja. Williams/Bernard/AP
WR Hopkins/Thomas/DJ Moore/Robinson/Jeffery/Preston Williams
TE Ertz/Cook/Hurst

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Roethlisberger/Fitzpatrick
RB Cook/Mixon/J. Robinson/Ja. Williams/Hines
WR Evans/Woods/Cooks/Fuller/AB/Miller/Diontae Johnson
TE Kittle/Henry/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Burrow
RB Jacobs/Dobbins/Bernard/Dillon/Edwards
WR Adams/Diggs/AJ Brown/Woods/Cooks/Ruggs/Davis
TE Engram/Henry/Hurst/Njoku/Irv Smith

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 11
QB Jackson/Brees/Rivers
RB Da. Johnson/Gurley
WR Adams/Hopkins/Julio/Thielen/Hilton
TE Kelce/Ertz/Irv

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Goff/Herbert/Tua
RB
WR Juju/Sutton/Juedy/Jefferson/Samuel
TE Kittle/Fant/Njoku
6 2021 1sts

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Re: Buy Low/Sell High

Postby bjd5211 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:41 am

briank wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:39 am
M-Dub wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 4:11 pm
I just recently bought low on Mixon for team 2. Sent DJ, Lockett, a late 1st and a late 3rd for Mixon and an early/mid 2nd. Feel pretty good about it.
So you sent DJ...

Diontae Johnson
David Johnson
DJ Moore
DJ Chark...
Duke Johnson duh


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