Yep, I'm actually starting to think they both suck but they're simply rolling out the guy who sucks less.jenkins.math wrote: ↑Wed Oct 28, 2020 6:32 am Its also not like Breida is some special talent either. He looked good in San Fran, but so does every single player that gets a carry in that system. Breida wasn't drafted so its not like he is a former high value prospect. Have you even considered Breida maybe just isn't anything special either.....
Myles Gaskin
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Re: Myles Gaskin
I think this sprained MCL is the beginning of the end for this kid and if I owned any of him at all (I don't) I would consider selling even at the injured-discounted rate.
The main thing he had going for him is he was cast(falsely) as the teams most balanced back allowing him to play both passing and rushing downs. The truth is he's done nothing that Jordan Howard hasn't done or couldn't do in a full-time role. Sorry it's just true.
Howards atrocious ypc can be explained easily by down and distance and the fact that defenses knew exactly the reason he was out there. Now don't think I'm making this a pro Howard thread... It isn't I'm of the opinion that Gaskin and Howard are largely the same back, do yourself a favor and look back at Howard in a Gaskin like role.
Howard will have week 9 to show if there is anything left, I believe if he's kept himself right there's Gaskin level production(+) there. Breida should play but is nursing an injury? DeAndre Washington is ineligible to play week 9(Covid rules) but will debut week 10.
Matt Breida and DeAndre Washington(some passing down ability) are the best 1st and 2nd down backs now on the roster, if they can show out with Gaskin sidelined there is a good chance his opportunity evaporates.
Passing down backs Laird and Bowden have been mostly unused this season but would expect that to pick up if Breida becomes the guy.
The main thing he had going for him is he was cast(falsely) as the teams most balanced back allowing him to play both passing and rushing downs. The truth is he's done nothing that Jordan Howard hasn't done or couldn't do in a full-time role. Sorry it's just true.
Howards atrocious ypc can be explained easily by down and distance and the fact that defenses knew exactly the reason he was out there. Now don't think I'm making this a pro Howard thread... It isn't I'm of the opinion that Gaskin and Howard are largely the same back, do yourself a favor and look back at Howard in a Gaskin like role.
Howard will have week 9 to show if there is anything left, I believe if he's kept himself right there's Gaskin level production(+) there. Breida should play but is nursing an injury? DeAndre Washington is ineligible to play week 9(Covid rules) but will debut week 10.
Matt Breida and DeAndre Washington(some passing down ability) are the best 1st and 2nd down backs now on the roster, if they can show out with Gaskin sidelined there is a good chance his opportunity evaporates.
Passing down backs Laird and Bowden have been mostly unused this season but would expect that to pick up if Breida becomes the guy.
Re: Myles Gaskin
While I do think this injury probably tanks his value, comparing him to Jordan Howard is downright silly imo. Gaskin is smaller and shiftier and can actually catch passes. Howard never caught 30 in a season. Gaskin had 30 Rec in 7 games.
Re: Myles Gaskin
I didn't compare size and Howard is a better runner in a full time roll. Howard edge in running, Gaskin edge in passing. And both a meh level of overall production.
Re: Myles Gaskin
He will likely be back and still be their primary back until the end of the year, but you are right. This injury happened at a brutal time, coming up on trade deadlines. He will probably hard to unload for any value, but that was the case even before the injury in my leagues.
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RB |
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TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
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RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
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QB | Herbert Lance
RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton
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RB |
WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
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RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
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Re: Myles Gaskin
DeAndre Washington is a sneaky deep league add. Matt Breida got hurt just thinking about getting more carries.
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QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
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RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
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TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
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Re: Myles Gaskin
Washington cant play this week so we'll see how they handle things week 9Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:45 pm DeAndre Washington is a sneaky deep league add. Matt Breida got hurt just thinking about getting more carries.
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Re: Myles Gaskin
There is 0 chance Howard has a terrible game unless the Dolphins get blown out. If the run game doesn’t get going the Dolphins don’t stand a chance.TD41 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:08 pmWashington cant play this week so we'll see how they handle things week 9Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:45 pm DeAndre Washington is a sneaky deep league add. Matt Breida got hurt just thinking about getting more carries.
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START: QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 SUPERFLEX
ROSTER STARTERS
QB: S. Darnold (CAR)
RB: J. Jacobs (LV), L. Fournette (TB)
WR: Cooper (DAL), Ridley (ATL), M. Williams (LAC)
TE: R. Seals-Jones (WAS), M. Alie-Cox (IND)
FLEX: Sutton (DEN), J. Smith-Schuster (PIT), D. Harris (NE)
SUPERFLEX: M. Jones (NE)
BENCH:
QB: Rudolph (PIT), Book (NO), Minshew (PHL), Stidham (NE)
RB: Cord. Patterson (ATL), A. Collins (SEA), D. Dallas (SEA), K. Vaughn (TB), JJ Taylor (NE), S. Perine (CIN)
WR: M. Jones (JAX), Zaccheus (ATL), G. Olszewski (NE)
TE: B. Jarwin (DAL), D. Asiasi (NE)
IR: Tre' Q. Smith (NO), Tyrod Taylor (HOU), Chark Jr (JAX), R. Penny (SEA)
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START: QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 SUPERFLEX
ROSTER STARTERS
QB: S. Darnold (CAR)
RB: J. Jacobs (LV), L. Fournette (TB)
WR: Cooper (DAL), Ridley (ATL), M. Williams (LAC)
TE: R. Seals-Jones (WAS), M. Alie-Cox (IND)
FLEX: Sutton (DEN), J. Smith-Schuster (PIT), D. Harris (NE)
SUPERFLEX: M. Jones (NE)
BENCH:
QB: Rudolph (PIT), Book (NO), Minshew (PHL), Stidham (NE)
RB: Cord. Patterson (ATL), A. Collins (SEA), D. Dallas (SEA), K. Vaughn (TB), JJ Taylor (NE), S. Perine (CIN)
WR: M. Jones (JAX), Zaccheus (ATL), G. Olszewski (NE)
TE: B. Jarwin (DAL), D. Asiasi (NE)
IR: Tre' Q. Smith (NO), Tyrod Taylor (HOU), Chark Jr (JAX), R. Penny (SEA)
Re: Myles Gaskin
You think a 2022 2nd is too much of an over pay for him? I was about to pay it before the injury. The guy won’t let him go for less.
I can probably get him as some depth for one of my teams. I don’t need him but he could be a decent start late in the season/playoffs in case CEH/Elliot keep playing they have been lately or Sanders injury lingers.
I can probably get him as some depth for one of my teams. I don’t need him but he could be a decent start late in the season/playoffs in case CEH/Elliot keep playing they have been lately or Sanders injury lingers.
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QB: Herbert, B Young
RB: Bijan, Warren, Z Moss, K Ingram, J kelley
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TE: J Ferguson Fant, J Johnson, Gesicki
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K: Butker
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RB: CMC, Hall, K Walker, Swift, M Sanders M Carter, K Gainwell, CEH, Hunt, C Evans, E Wilson, P Taylor, D Johnson,
WR: DJM, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Hopkins, M Gallup, Chark, T Scott, P Washington, G Dortch, J Watson, R Woods
TE: M Andrews, Fant , Hudson, Higbee, L Thomas, J Johnson,
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TE: J Ferguson Fant, J Johnson, Gesicki
DST: Colts NE
K: Butker
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Start QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, 2 Flex, K, DST
QB: Burrow Dobbs, R Wilson, Stidham, Carr,
RB: CMC, Hall, K Walker, Swift, M Sanders M Carter, K Gainwell, CEH, Hunt, C Evans, E Wilson, P Taylor, D Johnson,
WR: DJM, Metcalf, AJ Brown, Hopkins, M Gallup, Chark, T Scott, P Washington, G Dortch, J Watson, R Woods
TE: M Andrews, Fant , Hudson, Higbee, L Thomas, J Johnson,
DST: SF, PHI
TAXI:
C Jones, B Strange, J Shorter, W Levis
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4,5,6,6
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Re: Myles Gaskin
I sold him for a '21 2nd a few weeks ago. I think thats about his value, at least before the injury. I wouldnt expect him to be significant next season. But if you feel like he's worth a 2nd for some depth for the playoffs this year, I don't think you'd be overpaying with a '22 2ndzoster80 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:55 pm You think a 2022 2nd is too much of an over pay for him? I was about to pay it before the injury. The guy won’t let him go for less.
I can probably get him as some depth for one of my teams. I don’t need him but he could be a decent start late in the season/playoffs in case CEH/Elliot keep playing they have been lately or Sanders injury lingers.
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WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
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DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
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TE: Bellinger/Schultz
DL: Barrett/J. Davis/Yannick/
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Re: Myles Gaskin
There is zero chance that Howard has a zero chance of a terrible game.The Godwin Complex wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:42 pmThere is 0 chance Howard has a terrible game unless the Dolphins get blown out. If the run game doesn’t get going the Dolphins don’t stand a chance.TD41 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:08 pmWashington cant play this week so we'll see how they handle things week 9Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:45 pm DeAndre Washington is a sneaky deep league add. Matt Breida got hurt just thinking about getting more carries.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
Re: Myles Gaskin
X3 he'll likely be left out of the passing game because he's just not a good receiving back. So unless he has a TD I don't see him being good for fantasyOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:52 amThere is zero chance that Howard has a zero chance of a terrible game.The Godwin Complex wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:42 pmThere is 0 chance Howard has a terrible game unless the Dolphins get blown out. If the run game doesn’t get going the Dolphins don’t stand a chance.
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Re: Myles Gaskin
Mjvb5 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:54 amX3 he'll likely be left out of the passing game because he's just not a good receiving back. So unless he has a TD I don't see him being good for fantasyOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:52 amThere is zero chance that Howard has a zero chance of a terrible game.The Godwin Complex wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:42 pm
There is 0 chance Howard has a terrible game unless the Dolphins get blown out. If the run game doesn’t get going the Dolphins don’t stand a chance.
So you are either saying its going to be a shootout or a Cardinals blowout.
I dunno....the only path to victory for the Dolphins is if they get the run game going, control the clock, minimize TOs and continue playing solid defense. They don’t want a shootout with the Cardinals....we will see. Howard
15-20 carries
60-75 yards
TD
that’s my guess.
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START: QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 SUPERFLEX
ROSTER STARTERS
QB: S. Darnold (CAR)
RB: J. Jacobs (LV), L. Fournette (TB)
WR: Cooper (DAL), Ridley (ATL), M. Williams (LAC)
TE: R. Seals-Jones (WAS), M. Alie-Cox (IND)
FLEX: Sutton (DEN), J. Smith-Schuster (PIT), D. Harris (NE)
SUPERFLEX: M. Jones (NE)
BENCH:
QB: Rudolph (PIT), Book (NO), Minshew (PHL), Stidham (NE)
RB: Cord. Patterson (ATL), A. Collins (SEA), D. Dallas (SEA), K. Vaughn (TB), JJ Taylor (NE), S. Perine (CIN)
WR: M. Jones (JAX), Zaccheus (ATL), G. Olszewski (NE)
TE: B. Jarwin (DAL), D. Asiasi (NE)
IR: Tre' Q. Smith (NO), Tyrod Taylor (HOU), Chark Jr (JAX), R. Penny (SEA)
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12 TEAM SUPERFLEX PPR
START: QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 2 TE, 3 FLEX, 1 SUPERFLEX
ROSTER STARTERS
QB: S. Darnold (CAR)
RB: J. Jacobs (LV), L. Fournette (TB)
WR: Cooper (DAL), Ridley (ATL), M. Williams (LAC)
TE: R. Seals-Jones (WAS), M. Alie-Cox (IND)
FLEX: Sutton (DEN), J. Smith-Schuster (PIT), D. Harris (NE)
SUPERFLEX: M. Jones (NE)
BENCH:
QB: Rudolph (PIT), Book (NO), Minshew (PHL), Stidham (NE)
RB: Cord. Patterson (ATL), A. Collins (SEA), D. Dallas (SEA), K. Vaughn (TB), JJ Taylor (NE), S. Perine (CIN)
WR: M. Jones (JAX), Zaccheus (ATL), G. Olszewski (NE)
TE: B. Jarwin (DAL), D. Asiasi (NE)
IR: Tre' Q. Smith (NO), Tyrod Taylor (HOU), Chark Jr (JAX), R. Penny (SEA)
Re: Myles Gaskin
Tua has got to be able to keep defenses honest... 100 yards won't get it done week-in/week-out
Re: Myles Gaskin
The carries and yards make sense. but that's the issue is if he doesn't get he TD it's not a good game, and there's a lotta ways he doesn't get the td. Whereas his upside in the passing game is one maybe two catchesThe Godwin Complex wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:24 pmMjvb5 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:54 amX3 he'll likely be left out of the passing game because he's just not a good receiving back. So unless he has a TD I don't see him being good for fantasyOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:52 am
There is zero chance that Howard has a zero chance of a terrible game.
So you are either saying its going to be a shootout or a Cardinals blowout.
I dunno....the only path to victory for the Dolphins is if they get the run game going, control the clock, minimize TOs and continue playing solid defense. They don’t want a shootout with the Cardinals....we will see. Howard
15-20 carries
60-75 yards
TD
that’s my guess.
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