Wait, what?!saw061600 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:46 am Well this blew up as expected. The owner that originally challenged the lock out, or maybe another owner that was arguing, or maybe both, got kicked. Three more left, and that's a wrap. I guess if the commissioner was trying to "learn" he might have learned what NOT to do:
Don't have a god complex
Don't think you can do whatever you want
Don't think you can ignore the owners
Don't ever think you can make arbitrary decisions
Don't assume an owner has left and take over their team (yeah, that was a big one)
Don't get on chat/message board and use snarky/arrogant replies
Don't call your team "ShotCaller" because "W T F, can you make it any more obvious?
Commish refusing lock out. Update NEW commish
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League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
Re: Commish refusing lock out
Life is too short to waste your time in dumb leagues. I would mentally check out unless the commish steps down. If he stays.....I would be out.
Hopefully you didn't like your team too much.
Hopefully you didn't like your team too much.
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Re: Commish refusing lock out
Respectfully, @FantasyFreak and @Johnny B. Goode, the insulting characterizations are unwarranted. The commish's actions reflect poorly on him on their own [de-]merit. Slandering his character adds nothing to the conversation. As a Commish, it sure seems like he's awful. But these personal attacks on someone that none of us (except OP) have ever had any interaction with are over the line, IMO.Johnny B. Goode wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:01 amAfter reading through this, I don’t see him having a coming to Jesus moment here. I don’t know what it is with this guy, but he is clearly compensating for something in his life with this power grab. It’s too bad. He needs to take himself less seriously and just have fun.saw061600 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:29 amI believe so but I did try a hail marry pass here at the end. He needs to step down, give control to someone else, reinstate the owners, and let the league move forward. Hopefully he will but, since he deleted the message board thread that was calling him out, I'm not really thinking there's any way to save the league.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:22 am
Not surprising. Sorry to hear. Sucks losing a league this way. All that time spent. The guy was an idiot, and a loser in life. Clearly needs to get out of his mom's basement, or something. So the league has officially folded? Does everyone get a refund?
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
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IR: --
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Re: Commish refusing lock out
This entire thread is about his character, or his lack of it, when all is said and done. I understand your point, it's just a half azz attempt at humour, to lighten the mood.moishetreats wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:51 pmRespectfully, @FantasyFreak and @Johnny B. Goode, the insulting characterizations are unwarranted. The commish's actions reflect poorly on him on their own [de-]merit. Slandering his character adds nothing to the conversation. As a Commish, it sure seems like he's awful. But these personal attacks on someone that none of us (except OP) have ever had any interaction with are over the line, IMO.Johnny B. Goode wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:01 amAfter reading through this, I don’t see him having a coming to Jesus moment here. I don’t know what it is with this guy, but he is clearly compensating for something in his life with this power grab. It’s too bad. He needs to take himself less seriously and just have fun.saw061600 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:29 am
I believe so but I did try a hail marry pass here at the end. He needs to step down, give control to someone else, reinstate the owners, and let the league move forward. Hopefully he will but, since he deleted the message board thread that was calling him out, I'm not really thinking there's any way to save the league.
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Re: Commish refusing lock out
Gotcha. It's so hard to convey emotion on a written thread. Thanks for the clarification!FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:13 pmThis entire thread is about his character, or his lack of it, when all is said and done. I understand your point, it's just a half azz attempt at humour, to lighten the mood.moishetreats wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:51 pmRespectfully, @FantasyFreak and @Johnny B. Goode, the insulting characterizations are unwarranted. The commish's actions reflect poorly on him on their own [de-]merit. Slandering his character adds nothing to the conversation. As a Commish, it sure seems like he's awful. But these personal attacks on someone that none of us (except OP) have ever had any interaction with are over the line, IMO.Johnny B. Goode wrote: ↑Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:01 am
After reading through this, I don’t see him having a coming to Jesus moment here. I don’t know what it is with this guy, but he is clearly compensating for something in his life with this power grab. It’s too bad. He needs to take himself less seriously and just have fun.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
2024 Cap Spent: $186
IR: --
TAXI SQUAD (4 max): --
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball
QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble
2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th
12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball
QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
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Fortunately, most of my leagues have been fairly solid, play in about 11 these days, likely about 30 in my lifetime. Most of my leagues I'm 5 plus years on. But it got me thinking to the worst of them.
I was kicked out of a league once. Idp, I grabbed DeAngelo Williams in like the 12-16 round of our start up draft and flipped him to the JStew owner for a future 3rd. Was told i must of been colluding with the other owner to make such a deal.
I walked away from a league and requested my money back from league safe a few years back, after taking over an orphan the commish had no desire to follow the rules (constitution), and I will not tolerate that b.s.
Also had a commish draft Aaron Donald about a half dozen years ago, and switch his position on mfl from lb to de. As soon as I staw it, I refused to make my next selection and left the league after that season. Had everyone pissed with me, and offered to trade me a pick to move off my selection, but it annoyed me too much. Had him admit he went in and changed the position (MFL backed up my theory) and tell everyone what he did. Tried to convince the league we should be allowed to pick our players position. Lol
Makes me enjoy the good leagues (and commish) so much more,
I was kicked out of a league once. Idp, I grabbed DeAngelo Williams in like the 12-16 round of our start up draft and flipped him to the JStew owner for a future 3rd. Was told i must of been colluding with the other owner to make such a deal.
I walked away from a league and requested my money back from league safe a few years back, after taking over an orphan the commish had no desire to follow the rules (constitution), and I will not tolerate that b.s.
Also had a commish draft Aaron Donald about a half dozen years ago, and switch his position on mfl from lb to de. As soon as I staw it, I refused to make my next selection and left the league after that season. Had everyone pissed with me, and offered to trade me a pick to move off my selection, but it annoyed me too much. Had him admit he went in and changed the position (MFL backed up my theory) and tell everyone what he did. Tried to convince the league we should be allowed to pick our players position. Lol
Makes me enjoy the good leagues (and commish) so much more,
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ConF (16 Team)
DAF (16 team)
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T1 - Commish (12 team)
T2 - Commish (16 Team)
ConF (16 Team)
DAF (16 team)
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Re: Commish refusing lock out. Update NEW commish
After several emails to MFL, with detailed records and happenings of all that was taking place, I was able to assume commish role to keep the league going. All but 2 owners, the old commish and a friend, are here and 2 new owners already found. I don't plan to be commish long, just the guy that started the ticket and had the conversations to make the change happen.
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Hock F-muth
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Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
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Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph
12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
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Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson
1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
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Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
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Re: Commish refusing lock out. Update NEW commish
Well done. Good to hear.saw061600 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:38 pm After several emails to MFL, with detailed records and happenings of all that was taking place, I was able to assume commish role to keep the league going. All but 2 owners, the old commish and a friend, are here and 2 new owners already found. I don't plan to be commish long, just the guy that started the ticket and had the conversations to make the change happen.
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Re: Commish refusing lock out. Update NEW commish
Out Here Doing Gawd's Worksaw061600 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 6:38 pm After several emails to MFL, with detailed records and happenings of all that was taking place, I was able to assume commish role to keep the league going. All but 2 owners, the old commish and a friend, are here and 2 new owners already found. I don't plan to be commish long, just the guy that started the ticket and had the conversations to make the change happen.
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16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
Re: Commish refusing lock out
I sent a trade offer once when I was inadvertently logged in as commish and it registered it as the other owner offering it to me. Haha. I just texted the guy and explained what happened, but that was kinda weird. Otherwise, yeah, it usually becomes obvious that you’re logged in as commish when you try to perform any type of roster move.millworkguy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:06 amWhat, how? 1st you have to be logged in as commish, then you have to want to set your lineup, move a guy to taxi or I.R., and when it asks for which team, you go , "hey wait, I'm logged in as commish and lockout is off. I should move back to owner and before I do, turn lockout back on" you have to want to look, it's not normal team stuff, there are clues that you forgot to log out as commish last timeDLF3000 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:35 amSetting aside the quality of the commish aside, this is just another reason the MFL functionality is poor.
It's easy to not even realize you've logged in to "god mode" instead of your normal team log in - meanwhile all this competitive advantage information explodes onto your screen or is easily available as you go about your business doing normal team stuff.
When lockout is on, MFL tells you "you dont have that ability " (as commish to use an owner function)
Glad the OP was able to salvage this league. Pretty bizarre behavior by the former commish. I could see a new commish not understanding the ramifications of leaving lockout off, but once it was explained to him, it should’ve been obvious that he was in the wrong. Yeah, it can be mildly annoying to have to toggle it on and then back off if you’re trying to fix something, but that’s a small price to pay for trust and full transparency.
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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
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QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
Re: Commish refusing lock out. Update NEW commish
For anyone who is Commish and wants to know when you’re logged in as Commish or Owner, just change one of the Skins to give it a completely different look and feel. Then you know which you’re on immediately.
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Re: Commish refusing lock out. Update NEW commish
Correct.
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Re: Commish refusing lock out. Update NEW commish
Nice work to salvage the league. The old commish sounds like a real tool.
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Re: Commish refusing lock out. Update NEW commish
Congrats. This is great to hear. Not sure what this guy’s issue was, but he certainly had an issue. No other way to explain such bizarre behavior
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Re: Commish refusing lock out
Still sounds strange and didn't see this explained elsewhere in this thread.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex
League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
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