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Jace Sternberger

Postby SkillsPino » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:29 am

The Athletic's Matt Schneidman expects Robert Tonyan to open the season as the Packers' top pass-catching tight end.

Is he a drop at this point? Holding on to him in my dynasty league, but have to commit to him for next season as well if I decide to keep him. Anyone keeping him or hearing anything good?
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RB: Joe Mixon (9.9M), Jonathan Taylor (3M), Jamal Williams (1M)
WR: Tyreke Hill (12.5M), DeAndre Hopkins (5.9M), Diontae Johnson (10M), Jaylen Waddle (3M), Laviska Shenault (2.5M)
TE: TJ Hockenson (8.5M), Noah Fant (5.9M), Juwan Johnson (1M)
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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:47 am

He's falling behind more than he should by this point. Tonyan is more of a blocking TE IMO and that's what LaFleur is moving towards as an offense. So unfortunately I think Stern is droppable until he proves otherwise.
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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby SkillsPino » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:53 am

Thanks!
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12 Starters (1 QB, 1-2 RB, 1-3 WR, 1-2 TE, 1-3 DT/DE, 2-3 LB, 1-3 DB)

QB: Russell Wilson (3.5M), Deshaun Watson (7.6M)
RB: Joe Mixon (9.9M), Jonathan Taylor (3M), Jamal Williams (1M)
WR: Tyreke Hill (12.5M), DeAndre Hopkins (5.9M), Diontae Johnson (10M), Jaylen Waddle (3M), Laviska Shenault (2.5M)
TE: TJ Hockenson (8.5M), Noah Fant (5.9M), Juwan Johnson (1M)
DL: Jaelan Phillips (2M), Emmanuel Ogbah (1M)
LB: Zaven Collins (2.5M), Damien Wilson (1M)
DB: Kevin Byard (2M), Jordan Poyer (2M), Nick Cross (2M)

2022 Taxi/Redshirts:
WR - Rondale Moore (3M)
WR - Nico Collins (2M)
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WR - Bryan Edwards (1.6M)

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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby CGW » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:56 am

I plan to wait and see what happens first. Just so you know, Nick Boyle was listed as the starting TE and Hurst was projected as the top pass catcher last year for the Ravens. Preseason means almost nothing.

At the same time, if I had a prospect worth more than a 3rd round rookie pick and no1 else worth dropping, I would gladly drop Jace.
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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby SkillsPino » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:00 am

I'm basically trying to decide if I drop Jordan Howard or Jace.
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12 Starters (1 QB, 1-2 RB, 1-3 WR, 1-2 TE, 1-3 DT/DE, 2-3 LB, 1-3 DB)

QB: Russell Wilson (3.5M), Deshaun Watson (7.6M)
RB: Joe Mixon (9.9M), Jonathan Taylor (3M), Jamal Williams (1M)
WR: Tyreke Hill (12.5M), DeAndre Hopkins (5.9M), Diontae Johnson (10M), Jaylen Waddle (3M), Laviska Shenault (2.5M)
TE: TJ Hockenson (8.5M), Noah Fant (5.9M), Juwan Johnson (1M)
DL: Jaelan Phillips (2M), Emmanuel Ogbah (1M)
LB: Zaven Collins (2.5M), Damien Wilson (1M)
DB: Kevin Byard (2M), Jordan Poyer (2M), Nick Cross (2M)

2022 Taxi/Redshirts:
WR - Rondale Moore (3M)
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WR - Terrace Marshall (2.5M)
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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:12 am

Howard will actually have some production. I'd take that over the coinflip you can probably replace at TE.
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TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby Bronco Billy » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:22 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:47 am He's falling behind more than he should by this point. Tonyan is more of a blocking TE IMO and that's what LaFleur is moving towards as an offense. So unfortunately I think Stern is droppable until he proves otherwise.
Tonyan is not what is considered a traditional blocking TE. He’s a former WR who has been in the GB system a couple of years and has added weight and strength and improved his blocking enough that the team considers him a well rounded TE. A couple of years ago he was what Sternberger is now - a receiver who needs to dramatically improve their strength and blocking.

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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby CGW » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:26 am

SkillsPino wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:00 am I'm basically trying to decide if I drop Jordan Howard or Jace.
With a shallow roster and your lack of RB, id have a hard time not keeping Howard.
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QB | Burrow
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WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:38 am

Bronco Billy wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:22 am
YouMightDieTryin wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:47 am He's falling behind more than he should by this point. Tonyan is more of a blocking TE IMO and that's what LaFleur is moving towards as an offense. So unfortunately I think Stern is droppable until he proves otherwise.
Tonyan is not what is considered a traditional blocking TE. He’s a former WR who has been in the GB system a couple of years and has added weight and strength and improved his blocking enough that the team considers him a well rounded TE. A couple of years ago he was what Sternberger is now - a receiver who needs to dramatically improve their strength and blocking.
TE
Marcedes Lewis
Robert Tonyan
Jace Sternberger
Josiah Deguara

When that's their current TE roster I'd say Tonyan is their blocking TE. I never said he was a good blocking TE, but he's the best choice to run their current offense.

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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby Bronco Billy » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:47 am

YouMightDieTryin wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:38 am
Bronco Billy wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:22 am
YouMightDieTryin wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:47 am He's falling behind more than he should by this point. Tonyan is more of a blocking TE IMO and that's what LaFleur is moving towards as an offense. So unfortunately I think Stern is droppable until he proves otherwise.
Tonyan is not what is considered a traditional blocking TE. He’s a former WR who has been in the GB system a couple of years and has added weight and strength and improved his blocking enough that the team considers him a well rounded TE. A couple of years ago he was what Sternberger is now - a receiver who needs to dramatically improve their strength and blocking.
TE
Marcedes Lewis
Robert Tonyan
Jace Sternberger
Josiah Deguara

When that's their current TE roster I'd say Tonyan is their blocking TE. I never said he was a good blocking TE, but he's the best choice to run their current offense.
Lewis is what would be considered the blocking TE snd he’s been pretty good at it for the past 2 years there. He’s a clear afterthought in the passing game.

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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby ericanadian » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:59 am

CGW wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:56 am I plan to wait and see what happens first. Just so you know, Nick Boyle was listed as the starting TE and Hurst was projected as the top pass catcher last year for the Ravens. Preseason means almost nothing.

At the same time, if I had a prospect worth more than a 3rd round rookie pick and no1 else worth dropping, I would gladly drop Jace.
I think you’re thinking two years back. Andrews established himself as the lead receiver after his rookie year.
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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby CGW » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:08 am

ericanadian wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:59 am
CGW wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:56 am I plan to wait and see what happens first. Just so you know, Nick Boyle was listed as the starting TE and Hurst was projected as the top pass catcher last year for the Ravens. Preseason means almost nothing.

At the same time, if I had a prospect worth more than a 3rd round rookie pick and no1 else worth dropping, I would gladly drop Jace.
I think you’re thinking two years back. Andrews established himself as the lead receiver after his rookie year.
https://ravenswire.usatoday.com/2019/09 ... ek-1-2019/

I'm definitely thinking 2019. Andrews showed well to end 2018, but was still listed behind Boyle even on the official lineup. Hurst was still largely expected to breakout as the most all around TE. Trust me, I have Andrews everywhere so some of us obviously expected him to be the primary option. My point is these depth charts mean nothing, as do a good chunk of reports from the Athletic. Sternberger was drafted as a 2nd-3rd round, into a position that largely takes 3+years to develop.
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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby SkillsPino » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:29 pm

CGW wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:08 am
ericanadian wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:59 am
CGW wrote: Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:56 am I plan to wait and see what happens first. Just so you know, Nick Boyle was listed as the starting TE and Hurst was projected as the top pass catcher last year for the Ravens. Preseason means almost nothing.

At the same time, if I had a prospect worth more than a 3rd round rookie pick and no1 else worth dropping, I would gladly drop Jace.
I think you’re thinking two years back. Andrews established himself as the lead receiver after his rookie year.
https://ravenswire.usatoday.com/2019/09 ... ek-1-2019/

I'm definitely thinking 2019. Andrews showed well to end 2018, but was still listed behind Boyle even on the official lineup. Hurst was still largely expected to breakout as the most all around TE. Trust me, I have Andrews everywhere so some of us obviously expected him to be the primary option. My point is these depth charts mean nothing, as do a good chunk of reports from the Athletic. Sternberger was drafted as a 2nd-3rd round, into a position that largely takes 3+years to develop.
That's why I'm reluctant to drop him. Packers took him 2nd round and, as you said, it takes a few years TEs to develop. I've found it hard to find much information on him this offseason. With him missing time to due Covid and the lack of preseason it seems like anything could happen this year in general.
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QB: Russell Wilson (3.5M), Deshaun Watson (7.6M)
RB: Joe Mixon (9.9M), Jonathan Taylor (3M), Jamal Williams (1M)
WR: Tyreke Hill (12.5M), DeAndre Hopkins (5.9M), Diontae Johnson (10M), Jaylen Waddle (3M), Laviska Shenault (2.5M)
TE: TJ Hockenson (8.5M), Noah Fant (5.9M), Juwan Johnson (1M)
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LB: Zaven Collins (2.5M), Damien Wilson (1M)
DB: Kevin Byard (2M), Jordan Poyer (2M), Nick Cross (2M)

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WR - Rondale Moore (3M)
WR - Nico Collins (2M)
WR - Terrace Marshall (2.5M)
S - Richie Grant (2M)
WR - Bryan Edwards (1.6M)

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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby Shankopotamus » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:43 pm

I'm holding because he was a stud in college, but the guy looks like he hasn't lifted a weight since then.

We have deep benches, so I'll definitely hold him to see how he develops even if it's next year.
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Re: Jace Sternberger

Postby Bronco Billy » Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:15 am

FWIW, I’ve been pimping Tonyan as a very deep sleeper a few times here. Rodgers has spoken very highly of him the past 2 years and it might be that he finally has had his size/ blocking catch up with his receiving skills. I’ve been using Shannon Sharpe as a go-by for career trajectory, not in thinking Tonyan can match Sharpe’s productivity but rather for how long it took Sharpe to change from a WR into a capable TE and be able to take on starter’s responsibilities.


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