Alvin Kamara: Confident or Concerned
Re: Kamara Holdout?
Apparently saints want to give $12m / yr, kamara wants 16m. Saints want a 1st rounder for kamara. Don't see him going anywhere for a first, and I guess with that money saints would be franchising him next year if no long term deal.
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K: Sanders
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T: Kelce, Pitts
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W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
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Re: Kamara Holdout?
Really can't see anyone paying a 1st round pick for Kamara in this climate, so it seems like a new deal gets done or he just sits out and gets tagged.
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Re: Kamara Holdout?
He should take 12 million and the guaranteed money. The cap goes down significantly next year, and there's a very good chance that it will be lower for years than it is this year. I'm actually surprised teams are paying 12 a year to a RB since the cap drop has become a reality.
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Re: Kamara Holdout?
I suspect Kamara will be playing Week 1 for Saints ... he has very little leverage & the fact the Saints said that they were willing to deal him is a way to demonstrate how little leverage he has. So next year, the Saints will Franchise Tag him and no one will be willing to giving up that compensation which further erodes any leverage Kamara has.
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Re: Kamara Holdout?
Is anyone less worried about his contract situation than the fact that he needed an epidural for back pain before the first week of the season? I am the latter.
Re: Kamara Holdout?
I thought the exact same thing. I had to google exactly what it entailed...perkinsrooster wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:41 pm Is anyone less worried about his contract situation than the fact that he needed an epidural for back pain before the first week of the season? I am the latter.
They're probably more common than we know - but yikes, if that's what you need to get ready to play one of the most violent sports known to man at the tender old-arse age of 25... then it most definitely doesn't sound fun, and it's worrying at the least.Epidural corticosteroid shots (injections) may give you short-term relief from back pain that runs down your leg. On average, pain relief from the shots lasts about 3 months. But that may be enough time for your back to heal so your pain doesn't come back.
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Re: Kamara Holdout?
He is creeping up my 'To Trade' list. Unfortunately (fortunately?) I'm contending and thin at RB so I can't get too cute.
Re: Kamara Holdout?
Fines can still be returned if the player is on his rookie contract still.abloom wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:00 pmFurthermore, players can get fined for holding out (and the money can no longer be returned in the new CBA). However injuries that keep players out of practice, like mixons headaches, result in no fine.moishetreats wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:58 amActually, this is responsible journalism. It has yet to be confirmed that Kamara is officially holding out or absent because of a contract dispute. Thus, NLF.com writes appropriately that his absence "might" be solved with an extension. Saying that it "would" be solved means that his absence has been confirmed as contract related. And that's simply not the case.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:52 am "Kamara's absence might be solved with contract extension"-NFL.com
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Re: Kamara Holdout?
Faily certain that if they are holdouts related they can't be, but I may be wrong on that.95dent wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:29 pmFines can still be returned if the player is on his rookie contract still.abloom wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:00 pmFurthermore, players can get fined for holding out (and the money can no longer be returned in the new CBA). However injuries that keep players out of practice, like mixons headaches, result in no fine.moishetreats wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:58 am
Actually, this is responsible journalism. It has yet to be confirmed that Kamara is officially holding out or absent because of a contract dispute. Thus, NLF.com writes appropriately that his absence "might" be solved with an extension. Saying that it "would" be solved means that his absence has been confirmed as contract related. And that's simply not the case.
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R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
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W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
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W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders
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Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
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Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
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Re: Kamara Holdout?
Jason Fitzgerald who runs Overthecap was asked the question on twitter, and he replied rookies can have the fines rescinded on hold outs. Vets cannot.
Re: Kamara Holdout?
Okay thanks.
Team #1: 2nd place
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R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders
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Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
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Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
T: Kelce, Schultz, Thomas, Ferguson
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Q: Kyler, Fields, AR
R: JT, CMC, Barkley, chandler
W: Evans, Chase, Mooney, Collins, Dell, Pickens, wilson
T: Kelce, Goedert, Thomas, woods
D: cle, nyj
K: Sanders
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12 team, 1ppr (1.5 te), 1Q,2R,2W,1T,1SF,1F,1D,1K
Q: R Wilson, Murray, Watson, Browning, Rudolph, Zappe
R: Swift, Walker, Dobbins, gus bus
W: Puka, Metcalf, Dell, Cooper, DJM, K Allen, Nuk, Tre tucker, C Samuel,
T: Kelce, Pitts
K: Tucker
D: CLE
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Q: Mahomes, Rodgers, Watson, Heinicke, walker
R: Mostert, walker, a Jones, Wilson, Charb, Z White, McLaughlin, freeman, d Williams, Reynolds,
W: Waddle, A St Brown, K Allen, Cooper, Nuk, Juju
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Re: Kamara Holdout?
(RotoWire) Kamara is expected to return to practice Wednesday, Tom Pelissero of NFL Network reports.
Analysis: Kamara has not participated in practice since Friday due reasons that were initially called contract-related, but Pelissero now notes that his absence was due to an epidural shot in his back. In any case, if Kamara does rejoin teammates Wednesday it could indicate that he and the team have made some progress in talks. The star running back's decision to resume practicing comes following a report by Josina Anderson of ESPN that the Saints would be open to trading Kamara if the two sides can't agree on a long-term deal.
Analysis: Kamara has not participated in practice since Friday due reasons that were initially called contract-related, but Pelissero now notes that his absence was due to an epidural shot in his back. In any case, if Kamara does rejoin teammates Wednesday it could indicate that he and the team have made some progress in talks. The star running back's decision to resume practicing comes following a report by Josina Anderson of ESPN that the Saints would be open to trading Kamara if the two sides can't agree on a long-term deal.
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Re: Kamara Holdout?
There must be different kinds of epidurals. I only know it as the shot that numbs half your body before giving birth. If he had that, then he has issues.mild wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:56 pmI thought the exact same thing. I had to google exactly what it entailed...perkinsrooster wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:41 pm Is anyone less worried about his contract situation than the fact that he needed an epidural for back pain before the first week of the season? I am the latter.
They're probably more common than we know - but yikes, if that's what you need to get ready to play one of the most violent sports known to man at the tender old-arse age of 25... then it most definitely doesn't sound fun, and it's worrying at the least.Epidural corticosteroid shots (injections) may give you short-term relief from back pain that runs down your leg. On average, pain relief from the shots lasts about 3 months. But that may be enough time for your back to heal so your pain doesn't come back.
Re: Kamara Holdout?
There are different types. Epidural used in childbirth vs injection. I believe both are used to direct medication to the spine, just different medications, locations, and desired outcome.waynesworld1234 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:04 amThere must be different kinds of epidurals. I only know it as the shot that numbs half your body before giving birth. If he had that, then he has issues.mild wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:56 pmI thought the exact same thing. I had to google exactly what it entailed...perkinsrooster wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:41 pm Is anyone less worried about his contract situation than the fact that he needed an epidural for back pain before the first week of the season? I am the latter.
They're probably more common than we know - but yikes, if that's what you need to get ready to play one of the most violent sports known to man at the tender old-arse age of 25... then it most definitely doesn't sound fun, and it's worrying at the least.Epidural corticosteroid shots (injections) may give you short-term relief from back pain that runs down your leg. On average, pain relief from the shots lasts about 3 months. But that may be enough time for your back to heal so your pain doesn't come back.
It does worry me if he's having severe pain already before the season even starts. Not a good sign.
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Re: Kamara Holdout?
Epidural is just where the injection goes. He almost certainly had epidural steroid which doesn't numb anything up just calm down inflammation. In childbirth epidural anesthetic +/- narcotic is used which numbs everything in the lower half of the body and makes it hard to move your legs.
I think it's pretty common for nfl players to get steroid injections. But does anyone know specifically spine related? That doesn't sound very good to me.
I think it's pretty common for nfl players to get steroid injections. But does anyone know specifically spine related? That doesn't sound very good to me.
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