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Kamara Holdout?

Postby Kelldon » Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:14 pm

There has been news of a potential holdout with Kamara. Wheat is everyone's opinion on whether this is true and if it goes into the regular season? I just traded for him this offseason, hopefully it gets worked out soon.
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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:24 pm

Cook, Mixon and Kamara are all in the same boat. All 3 teams seem to want to bring them back and I don't see them holding out into the season. With the new CBA, they'll all get fined 40k a day. None have made significant money yet, so I think deals get done. Both Gordon and Bell are evidence against holding out.
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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby Lord_Varys » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:33 pm

I'm not very worried at the moment. We saw Zeke and Thomas do the same last year and got paid. Saints have about $7M in cap if they wanted to make something happen this year and make more space next year.

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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby jjleurquin » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:44 pm

The problem with the Saints is that they don't have the money to resign him. They're already way over cap for next year
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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby Lord_Varys » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:54 pm

jjleurquin wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:44 pm
The problem with the Saints is that they don't have the money to resign him. They're already way over cap for next year
I am seeing $7M on multiple sites.

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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:01 pm

Lord_Varys wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:54 pm
jjleurquin wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:44 pm
The problem with the Saints is that they don't have the money to resign him. They're already way over cap for next year
I am seeing $7M on multiple sites.
The Chiefs had no money, and then they extended Mahomes, Chris Jones and Kelce. The salary cap is a hurdle that is easily cleared if the team really wants to sign a guy, and an easy excuse if they don't. I wouldn't blame NO for going either way on this Kamara decision, but if they decide to move on it will be because they don't want him (at least at the price he wants) not because they can't fit him into the cap.

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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby cazzie33 » Mon Aug 31, 2020 7:02 pm

^^^

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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby jjleurquin » Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:12 am

Lord_Varys wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:54 pm
jjleurquin wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:44 pm
The problem with the Saints is that they don't have the money to resign him. They're already way over cap for next year
I am seeing $7M on multiple sites.
Not sure where you saw that. spotrac has them 77M$ over for 2021.
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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:17 am

jjleurquin wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 5:12 am
Lord_Varys wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:54 pm
jjleurquin wrote:
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:44 pm
The problem with the Saints is that they don't have the money to resign him. They're already way over cap for next year
I am seeing $7M on multiple sites.
Not sure where you saw that. spotrac has them 77M$ over for 2021.
Overthecap has them at 13M over this year and 36M over next year ASSUMING the cap next year increases to 215M which I've seen a ton of talk itll decrease

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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby Bronco Billy » Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:01 am

Players and agents had better be watching very carefully right now. The cap is a formula based upon gross revenues, and right now there is some significant uncertainty in the league with the COVID restrictions and then a bunch of the players and some coaches insisting on inserting themselves into the social justice jihad, which is sure to piss off a relevant portion of the fan base.

There’s a very real chance the cap goes down by a significant portion next year, and savvy teams have an eye on that right now.

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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:11 am

Bronco Billy wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:01 am
Players and agents had better be watching very carefully right now. The cap is a formula based upon gross revenues, and right now there is some significant uncertainty in the league with the COVID restrictions and then a bunch of the players and some coaches insisting on inserting themselves into the social justice jihad, which is sure to piss off a relevant portion of the fan base.

There’s a very real chance the cap goes down by a significant portion next year, and savvy teams have an eye on that right now.
The NFL is losing a lot of fans, and it's not just COVID, for sure. The NFL getting politicized, is alienating themselves from a large portion of their fan base, and it's not surprising. I think the cap will continue to decline for years, now. The idea that the cap will continue to rise, as some suggested with the Mahomes deal, is certainly not set in stone. There are some who are not only boycotting the NFL, but lashing out at the sponsors of the NFL. The NFL becoming politicized, will also politicize those who don't share their current views againt them, and their sponsors. This helmet thing is a big deal to a lot of people, especially after they refused to allow Witten and the Cowboys to pay respect to assassinated police officers just a few short years ago.

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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:18 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:11 am
Bronco Billy wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:01 am
Players and agents had better be watching very carefully right now. The cap is a formula based upon gross revenues, and right now there is some significant uncertainty in the league with the COVID restrictions and then a bunch of the players and some coaches insisting on inserting themselves into the social justice jihad, which is sure to piss off a relevant portion of the fan base.

There’s a very real chance the cap goes down by a significant portion next year, and savvy teams have an eye on that right now.
The NFL is losing a lot of fans, and it's not just COVID, for sure. The NFL getting politicized, is alienating themselves from a large portion of their fan base, and it's not surprising. I think the cap will continue to decline for years, now. The idea that the cap will continue to rise, as some suggested with the Mahomes deal, is certainly not set in stone. There are some who are not only boycotting the NFL, but lashing out at the sponsors of the NFL. The NFL becoming politicized, will also politicize those who don't share their current views againt them, and their sponsors. This helmet thing is a big deal to a lot of people, especially after they refused to allow Witten and the Cowboys to pay respect to assassinated police officers just a few short years ago.
The increase in streaming and the a la carte model rather than traditional cable subscriptions will likely have an impact on future TV deals and declines in overall revenue also.
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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:29 am

Orenthal Shames wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:18 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:11 am
Bronco Billy wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:01 am
Players and agents had better be watching very carefully right now. The cap is a formula based upon gross revenues, and right now there is some significant uncertainty in the league with the COVID restrictions and then a bunch of the players and some coaches insisting on inserting themselves into the social justice jihad, which is sure to piss off a relevant portion of the fan base.

There’s a very real chance the cap goes down by a significant portion next year, and savvy teams have an eye on that right now.
The NFL is losing a lot of fans, and it's not just COVID, for sure. The NFL getting politicized, is alienating themselves from a large portion of their fan base, and it's not surprising. I think the cap will continue to decline for years, now. The idea that the cap will continue to rise, as some suggested with the Mahomes deal, is certainly not set in stone. There are some who are not only boycotting the NFL, but lashing out at the sponsors of the NFL. The NFL becoming politicized, will also politicize those who don't share their current views againt them, and their sponsors. This helmet thing is a big deal to a lot of people, especially after they refused to allow Witten and the Cowboys to pay respect to assassinated police officers just a few short years ago.
The increase in streaming and the a la carte model rather than traditional cable subscriptions will likely have an impact on future TV deals and declines in overall revenue also.
Very true. I think the NFL has hit it's peak in revenue, and will decline for quite a few years. To bring it back to Kamara, he's holding out because he probably sees the class next year of FA's, the declining cap, and knows if he's going to get any good deal, it's now.

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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:52 am

"Kamara's absence might be solved with contract extension"-NFL.com

LOL

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Re: Kamara Holdout?

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:54 am

FantasyFreak wrote:
Tue Sep 01, 2020 9:52 am
"Kamara's absence might be solved with contract extension"-NFL.com

LOL
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