Alvin Kamara: Confident or Concerned
Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
Not concerned at all.
Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
I think we knew he played through a serious injury as soon as the end of the season. We didn't know he had a tear in his knee. Maybe it doesn't change anything. I'm slightly more concerned, but it's not going to change his value for me as he looked pretty damn good at the end of the season.
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
Exactly how I look at it. I actually feel better about him and I think everyone knew he wasn’t full strength last season.
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
I'm on the other side of this. Any injury to a players knee is always a negative for me. I knew he wasn't healthy last year, I thought it was an ankle injury and back, or something like that, but the fact he had a knee injury on top of it, worries me. Injuries that aren't repaired with off season surgery sometimes crop up again the next year, or again in season. D Jax last year, Guice tore his ACL after playing through a knee injury the prior year, Lev Bell tore his knee the year after hyper extending his knee etc. The Bell injury I think would have happened regardless, but the point is, a tear to a players knee is never a good thing.Cowboysfan33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:51 pmExactly how I look at it. I actually feel better about him and I think everyone knew he wasn’t full strength last season.
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
I get what you're saying but really these are just anecdotal examples. I don't know if there is any real evidence that he's really more likely to suffer a significant injury because he nicked up his knee. Chubb blew his knee years ago. You're right it's not a great thing that he tore something last year but we all know RB's are an injury waiting to happen, that's why no matter how good Kamara is over the next two years his value will start to dive after that.
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
I'm not concerned if Kamara is on the field he will put up points. I would like to have Murray though if I do own Kamara because Murray could start a lot of places and will likely be a RB1 if Kamara goes down
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
So this for me. When we learned previously that he had been playing injured, I became more confident and ended up being able to add him in one league.
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
The only injury I ever had (as a high school athlete, mind you) that I tried to play through was a torn meniscus. It sucked, I wasn't my normal self, and a year later I had to get it scoped because of all the excess damage it caused to my cartilage.
I don't know if that even translates to an NFL caliber player, but my own bias makes me worry that he's not taking the proper steps to get through this thing, especially as he passes through the prime of his career.
I don't know if that even translates to an NFL caliber player, but my own bias makes me worry that he's not taking the proper steps to get through this thing, especially as he passes through the prime of his career.
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
hard to say, a "torn knee" isn't exactly what you call a medically accurate diagnosis.
Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
It all depends on what the torn knee is. Certainly does not appear to be ligament (as even if he could play the season on it, he likely would have had surgery to repair it) so most likely meniscus. Depending on the degree of the tear its possible that he could play on it and he could pretty much be asymptomatic. Since he hasn't had surgery during the off season, my guess is that he is capable of playing through it. Maybe it means he's a little slower cutting but if he believes its not something that requires surgery I don't think it will have a significant impact on his output. Certainly the Saints aren't super concerned, its not like that brought in significant RB talent either in FA or the draft.
I think this gives Lat Murray a little bit of an extra boost and if I had kamara, I'd like to acquire him asap.
I think this gives Lat Murray a little bit of an extra boost and if I had kamara, I'd like to acquire him asap.
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
Me too. I think he will be close to full strength.Cowboysfan33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:51 pmExactly how I look at it. I actually feel better about him and I think everyone knew he wasn’t full strength last season.
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
Plant based diets are not good. I'm fading from 1.04 to 1.05, lol
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
Agreed on all points, I could be wrong but from my memory meniscus shouldn't cause any performance problems (if cleaned up properly) but can be bad in a few years time (which shouldn't matter as by that point he'll probably be a sell anyway because of age). I agree that there doesn't seem to be a lot of concern shown by Kamara or the Saints so I'll trust them and assume its not that bad until proven otherwise.abloom wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:24 am It all depends on what the torn knee is. Certainly does not appear to be ligament (as even if he could play the season on it, he likely would have had surgery to repair it) so most likely meniscus. Depending on the degree of the tear its possible that he could play on it and he could pretty much be asymptomatic. Since he hasn't had surgery during the off season, my guess is that he is capable of playing through it. Maybe it means he's a little slower cutting but if he believes its not something that requires surgery I don't think it will have a significant impact on his output. Certainly the Saints aren't super concerned, its not like that brought in significant RB talent either in FA or the draft.
I think this gives Lat Murray a little bit of an extra boost and if I had kamara, I'd like to acquire him asap.
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
Lol, I randomly heard about this this am. Still concerned when Arian Foster went vegan.Lord_Varys wrote: ↑Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:54 pm Plant based diets are not good. I'm fading from 1.04 to 1.05, lol
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Re: Alvin Kamara: Cause for concern?
One can hope but feeling better about a knee injury for RB?????Cowboysfan33 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:51 pmExactly how I look at it. I actually feel better about him and I think everyone knew he wasn’t full strength last season.
Thinking there is an oxymoron in there someplace.
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