Jordan Love

[Bronco Billy]

I like Love’s skill set, but given that this is a draft that could have provided Rodgers enough talent for another run or two at a title, Gutekunst may have defined his tenure in GB - for better or worse - with this one pick. That takes some serious stones.

The draft isn’t the place to find immediate help. Taking a rookie and placing the expectations that they will plug a roster hole is poor process. It’s not good for the culture of the organization and it’s not good for the development of the kid.

I think the Packers had a great draft. They can still improve on last year’s team, and they now have elite upside post-Rodgers.

Wait, you’re seriously saying that taking Queen in the 1st (who went 2 picks after Love) and then either Edwards or Duvernay in the late 2nd at WR wouldn’t have made them a much better team this year and for the following 2-3 seasons under Rodgers? And both those picks would also project into long term solutions at positions of serious weakness for the team.

I don’t even know how to get my head around your comment. Queen at MLB for the next decade wouldn’t be good for the team or the player. I’m a die hard Packer fan and I get what they were trying to do in the draft, but that doesn’t mean I have to put on my green and gold glasses and ignore that they took a massive risk, which if it goes sideways could cripple the team for the next 5 years at least and probably longer.

[I-ROK]

I like Love’s skill set, but given that this is a draft that could have provided Rodgers enough talent for another run or two at a title, Gutekunst may have defined his tenure in GB - for better or worse - with this one pick. That takes some serious stones.

The draft isn’t the place to find immediate help. Taking a rookie and placing the expectations that they will plug a roster hole is poor process. It’s not good for the culture of the organization and it’s not good for the development of the kid.

I think the Packers had a great draft. They can still improve on last year’s team, and they now have elite upside post-Rodgers.

Wait, you’re seriously saying that taking Queen in the 1st (who went 2 picks after Love) and then either Edwards or Duvernay in the late 2nd at WR wouldn’t have made them a much better team this year and for the following 2-3 seasons under Rodgers? And both those picks would also project into long term solutions at positions of serious weakness for the team.

I don’t even know how to get my head around your comment. Queen at MLB for the next decade wouldn’t be good for the team or the player. I’m a die hard Packer fan and I get what they were trying to do in the draft, but that doesn’t mean I have to put on my green and gold glasses and ignore that they took a massive risk, which if it goes sideways could cripple the team for the next 5 years at least and probably longer.

I was SHOCKED they passed on Queen

[Bronco Billy]

The draft isn’t the place to find immediate help. Taking a rookie and placing the expectations that they will plug a roster hole is poor process. It’s not good for the culture of the organization and it’s not good for the development of the kid.

I think the Packers had a great draft. They can still improve on last year’s team, and they now have elite upside post-Rodgers.

Wait, you’re seriously saying that taking Queen in the 1st (who went 2 picks after Love) and then either Edwards or Duvernay in the late 2nd at WR wouldn’t have made them a much better team this year and for the following 2-3 seasons under Rodgers? And both those picks would also project into long term solutions at positions of serious weakness for the team.

I don’t even know how to get my head around your comment. Queen at MLB for the next decade wouldn’t be good for the team or the player. I’m a die hard Packer fan and I get what they were trying to do in the draft, but that doesn’t mean I have to put on my green and gold glasses and ignore that they took a massive risk, which if it goes sideways could cripple the team for the next 5 years at least and probably longer.

I was SHOCKED they passed on Queen

It’s probably worse than just that. They could have taken their choice of Higgins/Pittman in the 1st (would have loved Pittman there) by staying put and then selected Gay at MLB in the 2nd. That’s immediate top notch help that can start from the onset at 2 positions of need, and quite possibly doing the very difficult of selecting BPA/position of need simultaneously with the top 2 draft slots.

[I-ROK]

Wait, you’re seriously saying that taking Queen in the 1st (who went 2 picks after Love) and then either Edwards or Duvernay in the late 2nd at WR wouldn’t have made them a much better team this year and for the following 2-3 seasons under Rodgers? And both those picks would also project into long term solutions at positions of serious weakness for the team.

I don’t even know how to get my head around your comment. Queen at MLB for the next decade wouldn’t be good for the team or the player. I’m a die hard Packer fan and I get what they were trying to do in the draft, but that doesn’t mean I have to put on my green and gold glasses and ignore that they took a massive risk, which if it goes sideways could cripple the team for the next 5 years at least and probably longer.

I was SHOCKED they passed on Queen

It’s probably worse than just that. They could have taken their choice of Higgins/Pittman in the 1st (would have loved Pittman there) by staying put and then selected Gay at MLB in the 2nd. That’s immediate top notch help that can start from the onset at 2 positions of need, and quite possibly doing the very difficult of selecting BPA/position of need simultaneously with the top 2 draft slots.

Yes. You aren’t going to beat the 49ers with a QB you hope you never have to play, a “banger” backup RB, a FB/TE. All 3 who will be on the bench. You have a much better shot with a new starting LB and WR

Yes, you don’t want to count on the draft to fill holes completely, but these guys have very little shot at contributing at all this year unless there is injury, and certainly don’t even attempt to try to fill any holes.

[Chwf3rd]

I'm a huge fan and he's the best value in SF right now.

Easily has the best arm talent in the draft class, routinely making jaw dropping throws. He's not a Josh Allen type (which I think he's lazily portrayed as) with scattershot accuracy and fastball only thrower. His accuracy is precise at all levels and he can manipulate his velocity and throw with touch. Really mobile QB with the ability to evade pressure, escape the pocket, and keep his eyes downfield. Some of his throws on the run really are reminiscent of Patrick Mahomes or Carson Wentz. The issue with Love is simply decision making - locking onto his first read or trusting his arm too much. However, you look at his 2018 season and the volume of those bad decisions is not there. In 2019, Love not only lost his coaching staff but his main offensive weapons as well. Considering his elite traits, I'll gladly bet that Love can return to his 2018 form.

I'm fine with the landing spot as well. Sitting for 1 or 2 seasons should be beneficial for him and GB has shown itself to be a really good organization as well, especially for developing QBs. His value should be really insulated as each year he comes closer to eventually taking over the starting gig.

Here are some examples of incredible throws by Love, which no other QB in this draft class and only a few other QBs in the NFL are capable of making:

https://giphy.com/gifs/KeKkJrWyxH4bHjaMEV

https://giphy.com/gifs/Kx7wyV9pwch2E3SJFm

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https://giphy.com/gifs/j4rKBJ31NbbVA3816T

Omg that 3rd throw....

He'll make jaw dropping throws, then miss a RB wide open in the flat multiple times in the same game. He shows extremely poor decision making on a much too consistent level for me. The odd jaw dropping throw doesn't make a good QB. Maybe he can put it all together, but the throws I saw Burrow make consistently were like no other QB in this class or any other class recently. I admire the odd highlight throw by Love, but he's a mess overall, and will take a great deal of time overall. I have little confidence in Lafleur to cultivate and develop him.

The idea that the Packers had a great draft as someone stated above is delusional, IMO. Dillon was terrible value as was there 3rd round pick. We'll see how Love pans out, ultimately he will make or break this draft, but the 2nd and 3rd round picks were just not good value picks, regardless if you ask me.

His accuracy is fine - the issue is poor decision making.

Did you watch him in 2018? He was a lot better that year when he had some weapons (Dax Raymond, Darwin Thompson) and his old coaching staff.

[PR0v3]

I like Love’s skill set, but given that this is a draft that could have provided Rodgers enough talent for another run or two at a title, Gutekunst may have defined his tenure in GB - for better or worse - with this one pick. That takes some serious stones.

The draft isn’t the place to find immediate help. Taking a rookie and placing the expectations that they will plug a roster hole is poor process. It’s not good for the culture of the organization and it’s not good for the development of the kid.

I think the Packers had a great draft. They can still improve on last year’s team, and they now have elite upside post-Rodgers.

Except that is the reality of the NFL now, with the value of rookie contracts players need to contribute early. There are many rookies each year who make significant contributions to their teams immediately.

Not really. None of the best managed teams draft for need, they draft BPA. Obviously there are rookies that do end up contributing, which the Packers rookies very well might, but that’s usually because they earn the right to contribute through their play, not because they are anointed as the one to plug a hole and slotted in regardless of if they are ready or not. Doing so is how you create an anti-competitive locker room culture and an endless cycle of “plugging holes” with guys who aren’t ready.

[PR0v3]

I was SHOCKED they passed on Queen

It’s probably worse than just that. They could have taken their choice of Higgins/Pittman in the 1st (would have loved Pittman there) by staying put and then selected Gay at MLB in the 2nd. That’s immediate top notch help that can start from the onset at 2 positions of need, and quite possibly doing the very difficult of selecting BPA/position of need simultaneously with the top 2 draft slots.

Yes. You aren’t going to beat the 49ers with a QB you hope you never have to play, a “banger” backup RB, a FB/TE. All 3 who will be on the bench. You have a much better shot with a new starting LB and WR

Yes, you don’t want to count on the draft to fill holes completely, but these guys have very little shot at contributing at all this year unless there is injury, and certainly don’t even attempt to try to fill any holes.

You aren’t getting a 2020 starting LB and WR in the draft slots the Packers were drafting in unless you get extremely lucky. You might get your 2021 or 2022 starting LB and WR, but by then your team needs will have likely changed (like to QB and RB) and you probably passed up better talents in the 2020 draft since you limited your possible selections to perceived “needs.”

[Forza_Azzurri]

With discussions going to extend Rodgers ... anyone see the Packers trading Love? I would think they could get a first from NE, CHI or NO for him ... maybe even TBB.

[StripesOfKC]

With discussions going to extend Rodgers ... anyone see the Packers trading Love? I would think they could get a first from NE, CHI or NO for him ... maybe even TBB.

They aren't getting a first from any of those teams unless they add to Love--and I like Love.

He was a late 1st who hasn't played and the fact that the Packers are willing to move on after a year would be a red flag to most teams

I guess New Orleans if Payton loved him coming out is possible because it's late

Still wouldn't count on it

[cantguardjake]

Saints could have drafted him last year and went Ruiz, don’t think they’d be interested at all.

[StripesOfKC]

Saints could have drafted him last year and went Ruiz, don’t think they’d be interested at all.

I'm not saying they are because I genuinely don't know but they were a capped out win now team going into the last year of their window last year. It makes sense why they ignored future QB as a need

[cantguardjake]

Saints could have drafted him last year and went Ruiz, don’t think they’d be interested at all.

I'm not saying they are because I genuinely don't know but they were a capped out win now team going into the last year of their window last year. It makes sense why they ignored future QB as a need

Yea that’s a fair analysis. I hope the Saints do acquire a QB via the draft, it will make another interesting landing spot.

Love doesn’t seem like a typical Payton QB to me, he’s wildly inaccurate. Fields to Saints would be ridiculous, a man can dream.

[PPE82]

Rodgers getting extension would just confirm how truly stupid the Love pick was last year.

[Ice]

Love isn't going anywhere IMO. How long did Rodgers sit on the bench? Was Rodgers a Stupid Pick?

3 YEARS....As Aaron Rodgers says...... R-E-L-A-X

[jordanzs]

Imagine if the Packers drafted Tee Higgins instead of Love.....