2020 Backup QB Rankings

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2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby Pullo Vision » Tue Jul 21, 2020 7:23 pm

In several of my leagues, there's been more buying depth and marginal pieces than I'd expect at this point of the off season.

In some of them, QB scoring helps push up their value. Given Covid could take out starting QBs, curious how people would rank the backups. This isn't strictly about 2020- one of these could be this year's Ryan Tannehill. As an added layer, where would you rank 2021 picks in this?

These are based on the #2 QBs on MFL's depth charts.

Tier 1- best combo of NFL-proven talent and current offensive scheme (combo of long and short term)
Jameis Winston, New Orleans
Andy Dalton, Dallas
Case Keenum, Cleveland

Tier 2 (rookie gambles and lesser vet talents)
Jacoby Brissett, Indianapolis
Nick Foles, Chicago
Robert Griffin, Baltimore
Tua Tagovailoa, Miami
Jordan Love, Green Bay
Justin Herbert, LA Chargers
Jarrett Stidham, New England
Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia
Marcus Mariota, Las Vegas
Nick Mullens, San Francisco

Tier 3 (Low value vets who can be effective short term band aids)
Matt Schaub, Atlanta
Chad Henne, Kansas City
Joe Flacco, NY Jets
Mason Rudolph, Pittsburgh
Geno Smith, Seattle
AJ McCarron, Houston

Tier 4 (grab bag of unproven talent, poor situation, or both)
Kyle Allen, Washington
Mike Glennon, Jacksonville
Colt McCoy, NY Giants
Jeff Driskel, Denver
Blaine Gabbert, Tampa Bay
Brett Hundley, Arizona
Matt Barkley, Buffalo
Will Grier, Carolina
Ryan Finley, Cincinnati
Chase Daniel, Detroit
Sean Mannion, Minnesota
John Wolford, LA Rams
Logan Woodside, Tennessee
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League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex

League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def

League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def

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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby Blueboy » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:33 pm

Kyle Allen belongs in tier 2 or 3.

12-team SF, PPR, TE premium, 0.25 PPCarry
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1SF 4Flex
QB: Mahomes, Fields, Love
RB: Bijan, ETN, Pollard, Achane, Herbert
WR: Kupp, Hill, Metcalf, Ridley, Jeudy, D.J. M, Burks, Hollywood, Wan'Dale
TE: Kyle Pitts, Goedert

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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby Pullo Vision » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:46 pm

Good catch, I forgot Washington. Stopped at Tennessee.

Allen doesn't impress me as a talent and I'd be thinking putting him in the McCarron/McCoy area. How much higher you put him hinges on how you see his situation- can he usurp Haskins, and what would be the impact of Allen's relationship with Rivera, I'd think. If Allen outplays him or Haskins underperforms, Allen could earn a one year band aid value. Long term, I don't see the talent to keep the front office from beating a high-value FA/draftee.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex

League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def

League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def

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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby Orenthal Shames » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:18 am

Blueboy wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:33 pm Kyle Allen belongs in tier 2 or 3.
Naw. He's terrible.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby killer_of_giants » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:28 am

foles in tier 1 as the most likely to be the starter early on without any injuries occurring.

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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby ericanadian » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:45 am

With his rushing talent and Wentz’ penchant for injury, I’d have Hurts in the top tier for fantasy production purposes.

Also, holy crap I can’t believe Matt Schaub is still collecting an NFL paycheck...
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QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker

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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby captain howdy » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:12 am

You spelled mitch trubisky wrong.

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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby CL3VELANDBR0WNS » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:40 am

killer_of_giants wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:28 am foles in tier 1 as the most likely to be the starter early on without any injuries occurring.
Agreed. CHI has a charmin soft pass schedule, it could actually be a very big year for Foles.

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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby CL3VELANDBR0WNS » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:41 am

Long-term I think Hurts is a really good QB, starting caliber. However, I can never bring myself to burn a roster spot on QBs/TEs who I know will have to season for 3-4 years. Those positions just don't hold enough value for me.

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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:41 am

CL3VELANDBR0WNS wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:41 am Long-term I think Hurts is a really good QB, starting caliber. However, I can never bring myself to burn a roster spot on QBs/TEs who I know will have to season for 3-4 years. Those positions just don't hold enough value for me.
This isn't your average season. Plenty of players are going to be thrust into positions we'd never expect them to be at so early on. It's picking who is already marinated versus who's going to burn on the grill.
10-Team Dynasty League QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/FLEX (23 man rosters + 2 IR + 2 Taxi, non-PPR scoring)
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
'24: (4) 1sts, 2nd, (2) 3rds, 4th
'25: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby ericanadian » Wed Jul 22, 2020 11:13 am

CL3VELANDBR0WNS wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:41 am Long-term I think Hurts is a really good QB, starting caliber. However, I can never bring myself to burn a roster spot on QBs/TEs who I know will have to season for 3-4 years. Those positions just don't hold enough value for me.
Oh, I think he would be trash as a passer, but he could probably put up enough rushing upside right now to be startable were he thrust into the lead role in Philly.
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QB - Stafford, Stroud, Tune
RB - Swift, Hall, Penny, Bigsby, Ford
WR - Pittman, Olave, Di. Johnson, G. Wilson, J. Williams, Metchie, Robinson, M. Wilson
TE - Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
LB - Brooks, R. Smith, Phillips
DL - Crosby, Allen, Simmons
DB - D. James, Baker, Delpit
K - Just a stupid kicker

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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby YouMightDieTryin » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:52 pm

"Not bad for a running back" - Lamar Jackson

Hurts is not Lamar**** (disclaimer)

But Hurts could be a RG3/Tebow type where he dazzles enough for a season until teams grab more tape and figure him out. The hardest thing to plan for is the unknown and Hurts is good at not knowing what he's going to do next.
10-Team Dynasty League QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/FLEX (23 man rosters + 2 IR + 2 Taxi, non-PPR scoring)
QB: Herbert, Goff
RB: Bijan, JT, Saquon, J.Cook, K.Hunt, Foreman, Z.White, McKinnon, S.Tucker
WR: G.Wilson, Olave, Jeudy, Pittman, J.Williams, OBJ, N. Brown, JuJu,
TE: Chig, Conklin, L. Thomas
Taxi: M.Mims, Ro. Johnson
'24: (4) 1sts, 2nd, (2) 3rds, 4th
'25: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby Blueboy » Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:56 pm

Orenthal Shames wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:18 am
Blueboy wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:33 pm Kyle Allen belongs in tier 2 or 3.
Naw. He's terrible.
He's fine being in the same tier as Mason Rudolph.

12-team SF, PPR, TE premium, 0.25 PPCarry
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1SF 4Flex
QB: Mahomes, Fields, Love
RB: Bijan, ETN, Pollard, Achane, Herbert
WR: Kupp, Hill, Metcalf, Ridley, Jeudy, D.J. M, Burks, Hollywood, Wan'Dale
TE: Kyle Pitts, Goedert

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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby Blackout » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:51 am

Nick Foles backup ? Does it mean Trubisky is still the starter ? Was expected him to be thrown out the job

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Re: 2020 Backup QB Rankings

Postby MucBuc » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:18 am

Maybe it's just me, but I would still take a chance on Rosen over most of the guys in tiers 3 +4.
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