If I didn't already have him in half my leagues, I'd be buying too. He can get open at the drop of a hat and has good instincts.broncohead wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:33 pm I believe in Jeudy long-term. He did have some pretty bad drops and that was on him. I’d definitely be trying to buy him low.
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Don't know. I don't have a PFF subscription, saw one Tweet with the top rookies. Pro Football Reference has Drew Lock at 69% catchable pass rate though, so I'd guess their catchable pass rates are also low.
Jeudy's average depth of target was 13.5, Patrick 12.5, Hamler 10.4, Hamilton 13.4, Fant 6.7.
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Owners of Players like Jeudy and Ruggs would be complete fools for selling them low after their rookie season.Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:39 pmIf I didn't already have him in half my leagues, I'd be buying too. He can get open at the drop of a hat and has good instincts.broncohead wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:33 pm I believe in Jeudy long-term. He did have some pretty bad drops and that was on him. I’d definitely be trying to buy him low.
Not every rookie comes into the league and lights it up. Situations are very different. If you can get them at low prices by taking advantage of the redraft mindset fools then go and fleece them.
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Jeudy by all accounts didn't even have a miserable rookie year!Ice wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:00 amOwners of Players like Jeudy and Ruggs would be complete fools for selling them low after their rookie season.Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:39 pmIf I didn't already have him in half my leagues, I'd be buying too. He can get open at the drop of a hat and has good instincts.broncohead wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:33 pm I believe in Jeudy long-term. He did have some pretty bad drops and that was on him. I’d definitely be trying to buy him low.
Not every rookie comes into the league and lights it up. Situations are very different. If you can get them at low prices by taking advantage of the redraft mindset fools then go and fleece them.
CeeDee Lamb 2020 Stats: 111 targets 74 rec 935 yds 5 tds (9 Drops)
Jerry Jeudy 2020 Stats: 113 targets 52 rec 856 yds 3 tds (9 Drops)
It's safe to say people like Lambs situation better but Jeudy is likely on a team that takes a serious look at QB.
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Wow. Less than 100 yards off with 22 less receptions. Interesting.Mike11 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:12 amJeudy by all accounts didn't even have a miserable rookie year!Ice wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:00 amOwners of Players like Jeudy and Ruggs would be complete fools for selling them low after their rookie season.
Not every rookie comes into the league and lights it up. Situations are very different. If you can get them at low prices by taking advantage of the redraft mindset fools then go and fleece them.
CeeDee Lamb 2020 Stats: 111 targets 74 rec 935 yds 5 tds (9 Drops)
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It's safe to say people like Lambs situation better but Jeudy is likely on a team that takes a serious look at QB.
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I don't think he had a terrible year either but he didn't meet the expectations of his draft status to some. These kids come in pretty raw and it takes a year or two just to develop.Mike11 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:12 amJeudy by all accounts didn't even have a miserable rookie year!Ice wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:00 amOwners of Players like Jeudy and Ruggs would be complete fools for selling them low after their rookie season.
Not every rookie comes into the league and lights it up. Situations are very different. If you can get them at low prices by taking advantage of the redraft mindset fools then go and fleece them.
CeeDee Lamb 2020 Stats: 111 targets 74 rec 935 yds 5 tds (9 Drops)
Jerry Jeudy 2020 Stats: 113 targets 52 rec 856 yds 3 tds (9 Drops)
It's safe to say people like Lambs situation better but Jeudy is likely on a team that takes a serious look at QB.
There is a fairly large subset of fantasy players that have zero patience and if they hold these type of players they are pretty easy targets.
I expect Jeudy to progress like Chark did in Jacksonville personally.
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I read that Hamlers was bottom 5 of the league as well. I don’t have PFF so don’t quote me on that.
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Hamler: 77%, Patrick 70.5%, Daesean: 72%Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:34 amDon't know. I don't have a PFF subscription, saw one Tweet with the top rookies. Pro Football Reference has Drew Lock at 69% catchable pass rate though, so I'd guess their catchable pass rates are also low.
Jeudy's average depth of target was 13.5, Patrick 12.5, Hamler 10.4, Hamilton 13.4, Fant 6.7.
Earlier in the season Patrick's ADoT was 14ish and his catchable target percentage was still in the 70s.
Jeudy and his 113 targets is a big reason Lock's catchable target percentage isn't higher.
The WR and QB are involved in catchable target rate. Jeudy's has been egregiously low all year.. even when he was playing 2nd fiddle to Tim Patrick for half the season vs inferior CBs. He was as much of a reason for that pathetic catchable target percentage as Lock.
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Wait... Are you saying Jeudy is the reason that Jeudy's targets weren't catchable?? Is he supposed to throw to himself? LolSriracha wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:25 pmHamler: 77%, Patrick 70.5%, Daesean: 72%Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:34 amDon't know. I don't have a PFF subscription, saw one Tweet with the top rookies. Pro Football Reference has Drew Lock at 69% catchable pass rate though, so I'd guess their catchable pass rates are also low.
Jeudy's average depth of target was 13.5, Patrick 12.5, Hamler 10.4, Hamilton 13.4, Fant 6.7.
Earlier in the season Patrick's ADoT was 14ish and his catchable target percentage was still in the 70s.
Jeudy and his 113 targets is a big reason Lock's catchable target percentage isn't higher.
The WR and QB are involved in catchable target rate. Jeudy's has been egregiously low all year.. even when he was playing 2nd fiddle to Tim Patrick for half the season vs inferior CBs. He was as much of a reason for that pathetic catchable target percentage as Lock.
Is his deeper Adot and lower catchable % not an indicator that Lock's deep ball accuracy isn't good? Seems to me if they got a semi-competent QB in Denver and Jeudy will have better numbers. Not that his rookie year was even all that bad
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That's why I pointed out that even when Patrick was operating as their #1 and being guarded by opposing teams #1 CB, and had a deeper ADoT than Jeudy his catchable target percentage was still much, much higher than Jeudy's.Jigga94 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:35 pmWait... Are you saying Jeudy is the reason that Jeudy's targets weren't catchable?? Is he supposed to throw to himself? LolSriracha wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:25 pmHamler: 77%, Patrick 70.5%, Daesean: 72%Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:34 am
Don't know. I don't have a PFF subscription, saw one Tweet with the top rookies. Pro Football Reference has Drew Lock at 69% catchable pass rate though, so I'd guess their catchable pass rates are also low.
Jeudy's average depth of target was 13.5, Patrick 12.5, Hamler 10.4, Hamilton 13.4, Fant 6.7.
Earlier in the season Patrick's ADoT was 14ish and his catchable target percentage was still in the 70s.
Jeudy and his 113 targets is a big reason Lock's catchable target percentage isn't higher.
The WR and QB are involved in catchable target rate. Jeudy's has been egregiously low all year.. even when he was playing 2nd fiddle to Tim Patrick for half the season vs inferior CBs. He was as much of a reason for that pathetic catchable target percentage as Lock.
Is his deeper Adot and lower catchable % not an indicator that Lock's deep ball accuracy isn't good? Seems to me if they got a semi-competent QB in Denver and Jeudy will have better numbers. Not that his rookie year was even all that bad
Jeudy's catch rate is literally one of the worst qualifying rates in NFL history.
What's more likely here: Lock specifically couldn't hit Jeudy at a higher clip than any other WR on the team (because reasons?) or that Jeudy was not where Lock expected him to be? Patrick was operating as the deepest ADoT receiver for most of the season (before Jeudy took over that role in the 2nd half of the season) without the same level of deficiencies Jeudy experienced.
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Wasting your breath lol, look at this guys post history anytime jeudys name comes up in a thread he comes in to quickly throw bleep all over it , half his posts must be about how terrible jeudy is and lock is a stud :Jigga94 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:35 pmWait... Are you saying Jeudy is the reason that Jeudy's targets weren't catchable?? Is he supposed to throw to himself? LolSriracha wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:25 pmHamler: 77%, Patrick 70.5%, Daesean: 72%Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:34 am
Don't know. I don't have a PFF subscription, saw one Tweet with the top rookies. Pro Football Reference has Drew Lock at 69% catchable pass rate though, so I'd guess their catchable pass rates are also low.
Jeudy's average depth of target was 13.5, Patrick 12.5, Hamler 10.4, Hamilton 13.4, Fant 6.7.
Earlier in the season Patrick's ADoT was 14ish and his catchable target percentage was still in the 70s.
Jeudy and his 113 targets is a big reason Lock's catchable target percentage isn't higher.
The WR and QB are involved in catchable target rate. Jeudy's has been egregiously low all year.. even when he was playing 2nd fiddle to Tim Patrick for half the season vs inferior CBs. He was as much of a reason for that pathetic catchable target percentage as Lock.
Is his deeper Adot and lower catchable % not an indicator that Lock's deep ball accuracy isn't good? Seems to me if they got a semi-competent QB in Denver and Jeudy will have better numbers. Not that his rookie year was even all that bad
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Part of the reason for the low catachable pass % could be do to his unorthodox route running. Quarterbacks depend on rythym and Jeudy seems to operate on a different beat entirely than other receivers. Thats the nice way of saying it. The other way is he's too cute with his moves and gets caught up juking his corner and looking good doing it at the expense of a well timed route that his QB can depend on.
Drew Lock is terrible, no denying that. He shoulders a lot of blame. I also think Jeudy shoulders blame for wasted motion that disrupts the timing of plays sometimes. I also think this is partly why Lock ignored him for large chunks of games. Inconsistent timing and a lot of drops are not a quarterbacks friend.
Jefferson doesnt waste motion. Hes fluid and can shake a corner more concisely and he gives Cousins consistency. Kirk can count on him to be where hes supposed to at the moment he is supposed to be there.
I've been a harsh critic of Jeudy but its not like I dont think he'll be a fantasy asset. I just see his ceiling as a dime a dozen, wr2/wr3 type. Nothing special and was overhyped.
Drew Lock is terrible, no denying that. He shoulders a lot of blame. I also think Jeudy shoulders blame for wasted motion that disrupts the timing of plays sometimes. I also think this is partly why Lock ignored him for large chunks of games. Inconsistent timing and a lot of drops are not a quarterbacks friend.
Jefferson doesnt waste motion. Hes fluid and can shake a corner more concisely and he gives Cousins consistency. Kirk can count on him to be where hes supposed to at the moment he is supposed to be there.
I've been a harsh critic of Jeudy but its not like I dont think he'll be a fantasy asset. I just see his ceiling as a dime a dozen, wr2/wr3 type. Nothing special and was overhyped.
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Not true, both were bad this year. Both are talented players that could be very very good if they develop. This narrative that Jeudy is amazing and Lock was his only problem is fiction; Jeudy's catchable target percentage is referenced constantly to defend that position. And I get it, it's an easy to reference stat that confirms what they're looking for -- Jeudy good, Lock bad.. but when you look deeper it's a little more complicated.KingsKing wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:45 pmWasting your breath lol, look at this guys post history anytime jeudys name comes up in a thread he comes in to quickly throw bleep all over it , half his posts must be about how terrible jeudy is and lock is a stud :Jigga94 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:35 pmWait... Are you saying Jeudy is the reason that Jeudy's targets weren't catchable?? Is he supposed to throw to himself? LolSriracha wrote: ↑Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:25 pm
Hamler: 77%, Patrick 70.5%, Daesean: 72%
Earlier in the season Patrick's ADoT was 14ish and his catchable target percentage was still in the 70s.
Jeudy and his 113 targets is a big reason Lock's catchable target percentage isn't higher.
The WR and QB are involved in catchable target rate. Jeudy's has been egregiously low all year.. even when he was playing 2nd fiddle to Tim Patrick for half the season vs inferior CBs. He was as much of a reason for that pathetic catchable target percentage as Lock.
Is his deeper Adot and lower catchable % not an indicator that Lock's deep ball accuracy isn't good? Seems to me if they got a semi-competent QB in Denver and Jeudy will have better numbers. Not that his rookie year was even all that bad
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Jeudy was amazing in college. The Alabama QBs didn't have an issue with his routes.
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