Bad Trades

[Jintsfan66]

Fellas

just a little vent session, I do not play in leagues that veto trades but boy does it irritate me when bad trades go down. Look, we all make trades that do not end up well but to just get crushed is unacceptable


these trades just happened in a 10 team competitive dynasty league

Ekeler for a 2020 2nd and 2020 4th
Ridley for David Johnson

I maybe can see the point with #2 the guy needed a RB but the Ekeler trade,

Just wanted to Vent.... was curious how you guys feel about things when it happens in your league

[OhCruelestRanter]

These are awful. I assume this is a friends league, but still. I don’t love the idea of vetos, but a league where you can just steal from people like that isn’t fun either.

As an aside, we should all probably stop using the word “r*pe” to describe “handily winning a fantasy trade.” I’m sure we’ve almost all been guilty of it at some point, but you’ll notice fewer and fewer mainstream analysts using it, and at this point we probably don’t need to use such an evocative phrase to describe the dumb little game we play.

Not to cast aspersions at anybody who’s used this expression previously (I watched The League too, I’m sure I’ve said it at some point) but I just think we know more now and don’t need to do it going forward.

To be honest, maybe the mods should think about bleeping it? I’d argue that the use of the word “f*ck”, which is banned, is way less detrimental to the community than the casual use of the word “r*pe.”

[Londondynasty]

I always think 'damn why didnt I get to that owner first?'

[Jintsfan66]

These are awful. I assume this is a friends league, but still. I don’t love the idea of vetos, but a league where you can just steal from people like that isn’t fun either.

As an aside, we should all probably stop using the word “r*pe” to describe “handily winning a fantasy trade.” I’m sure we’ve almost all been guilty of it at some point, but you’ll notice fewer and fewer mainstream analysts using it, and at this point we probably don’t need to use such an evocative phrase to describe the dumb little game we play.

Not to cast aspersions at anybody who’s used this expression previously (I watched The League too, I’m sure I’ve said it at some point) but I just think we know more now and don’t need to do it going forward.

To be honest, maybe the mods should think about bleeping it? I’d argue that the use of the word “f*ck”, which is banned, is way less detrimental to the community than the casual use of the word “r*pe.”

changed the word

[OhCruelestRanter]

These are awful. I assume this is a friends league, but still. I don’t love the idea of vetos, but a league where you can just steal from people like that isn’t fun either.

As an aside, we should all probably stop using the word “r*pe” to describe “handily winning a fantasy trade.” I’m sure we’ve almost all been guilty of it at some point, but you’ll notice fewer and fewer mainstream analysts using it, and at this point we probably don’t need to use such an evocative phrase to describe the dumb little game we play.

Not to cast aspersions at anybody who’s used this expression previously (I watched The League too, I’m sure I’ve said it at some point) but I just think we know more now and don’t need to do it going forward.

To be honest, maybe the mods should think about bleeping it? I’d argue that the use of the word “f*ck”, which is banned, is way less detrimental to the community than the casual use of the word “r*pe.”

changed the word

Strong work dude.

[Cameron Giles]

A league like this wouldn't be fun to play in. I have no issues with people winning deals, but when you can tell people don't know what they're doing and some may be getting taken advantage of, it's just pointless to play.

The Ekeler deal is awful, regardless of whether it's PPR or not.

Ridley for Johnson is not as bad, but Ridley is certainly worth notably more than Johnson right now.

[moishetreats]

Here's what I do:

1) Step back, re-read my screen a half dozen times, and whine to myself for about 30 seconds.

2) Call / email the owner who won the trade, offering big props.

3) Look at the team of the owner who lost the trade, scanning for players that I want. Email that owner saying, "Hey, I just saw that you traded Ekeler for some picks. Were you down on him this year or looking to get draft picks? If you're willing to still deal some players for picks, then I'd love to talk."

Then repeat step 1.

[abloom]

Bad trades are good. It means you can approach that owner and work some trades. You really shouldn't be upset at the person for accepting a bad trade, you should be upset that you didn't approach them first

[OhCruelestRanter]

I always think 'damn why didnt I get to that owner first?'

Oh same. That’s why you gotta be active. Hard to find the sucker if you don’t send offers.

Having said that, this kind of stuff is way worse.

[Cameron Giles]

Bad trades are good. It means you can approach that owner and work some trades. You really shouldn't be upset at the person for accepting a bad trade, you should be upset that you didn't approach them first

It's a great way to create orphan teams and inevitably ruin leagues.

[petebusey]

Here's what I do:

1) Step back, re-read my screen a half dozen times, and whine to myself for about 30 seconds.

2) Call / email the owner who won the trade, offering big props.

3) Look at the team of the owner who lost the trade, scanning for players that I want. Email that owner saying, "Hey, I just saw that you traded Ekeler for some picks. Were you down on him this year or looking to get draft picks? If you're willing to still deal some players for picks, then I'd love to talk."

Then repeat step 1.

LOL

I don't know why this is so funny to me. Probably because that is exactly what I do too.

[abloom]

Bad trades are good. It means you can approach that owner and work some trades. You really shouldn't be upset at the person for accepting a bad trade, you should be upset that you didn't approach them first

It's a great way to create orphan teams and inevitably ruin leagues.

Ruin. League? Definitely not. One sided trades rarely impact the league significantly in a single year let alone over the life span of the year.

Create orphans? Perhaps, though I think it's easier to create orphans when you don't let owners run their own team.

[MFundercover]

Michael Thomas was traded for what ended up as the 1.09, 2.09, 3.09, 4.09, 5.09, and Boykin mid season last year.

David Montgomery, AJG, Robert Woods, and 2.10 went for Alvin Kamara and Courtland Sutton mid season last year.

Matthew Stafford for 1.08 (ended up being Justin Jefferson. Cam Akers went 1.09)

Conner and Periman for Allen Robinson

Tevin Coleman for a 1st round pick

Then he traded Tevin Coleman for Zach Ertz

Most of these trades were complete by the same 3 or 4 teams. We are a competitive league but have a few Tacos.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

Not sure why everyone is saying how bad Ekeler for the 2nd is. Could be the 11th rookie off the board for all we know. I couldn't trade Fournette or Henry for roughly anywhere between the 1.01-1.10 in several of my leagues, SF though.

[Cameron Giles]

Ruin. League? Definitely not. One sided trades rarely impact the league significantly in a single year let alone over the life span of the year.

Create orphans? Perhaps, though I think it's easier to create orphans when you don't let owners run their own team.

They can if the entire league is taking advantage of an owner who clearly has no grasp for what he's doing.