Who ya selling & who ya buying? Lets get wild
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Who ya selling & who ya buying? Lets get wild
There are tons of players from top to bottom that can be considered bargains. Few guys I'm looking to add cheaply that I hoping out produce their value are:
Uzomah, C.J. CIN TE
Thompson, Chris JAC RB
Cam Newton
I have a pretty long list but its hard to say one is a bargain or one is a sleeper with upside.
Who are you buying cheap?
Uzomah, C.J. CIN TE
Thompson, Chris JAC RB
Cam Newton
I have a pretty long list but its hard to say one is a bargain or one is a sleeper with upside.
Who are you buying cheap?
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Re: Bargain players than need to be shopped
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This is probably going to be an unpopular take, but Corey Davis.
It's kind of gross, I know, but hear me out here. Davis is only 25 years old and finishing his rookie contract. I don't envision him getting re-signed by the Titans, but I do see his first-round pedigree landing him somewhere on a skinny, prove-it kind of deal. If he lands somewhere that targets him, he could be a longer-term bargain at his current dirt-cheap price.
It's kind of gross, I know, but hear me out here. Davis is only 25 years old and finishing his rookie contract. I don't envision him getting re-signed by the Titans, but I do see his first-round pedigree landing him somewhere on a skinny, prove-it kind of deal. If he lands somewhere that targets him, he could be a longer-term bargain at his current dirt-cheap price.
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I agree.dlf_johnh wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:10 pm This is probably going to be an unpopular take, but Corey Davis.
It's kind of gross, I know, but hear me out here. Davis is only 25 years old and finishing his rookie contract. I don't envision him getting re-signed by the Titans, but I do see his first-round pedigree landing him somewhere on a skinny, prove-it kind of deal. If he lands somewhere that targets him, he could be a longer-term bargain at his current dirt-cheap price.
Others will hate it but I can't just ignore how good a prospect he was and toasting Gilmore with garbage Mariota at QB.
It wasn't enough for fantasy relevance but by the eye test he looked more involved to me with Tannehill too.
That said: he needs off the Titans and to go to a team/QB more willing to throw into tight windows and let WRs make plays on the ball since separation isn't his strong suit
Re: Bargain players than need to be shopped
I have been pretty much anti Davis from day one and still am not buying for what he’ll cost from most owners, a 2nd from what I’ve seen.StripesOfKC wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:16 pmI agree.dlf_johnh wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:10 pm This is probably going to be an unpopular take, but Corey Davis.
It's kind of gross, I know, but hear me out here. Davis is only 25 years old and finishing his rookie contract. I don't envision him getting re-signed by the Titans, but I do see his first-round pedigree landing him somewhere on a skinny, prove-it kind of deal. If he lands somewhere that targets him, he could be a longer-term bargain at his current dirt-cheap price.
Others will hate it but I can't just ignore how good a prospect he was and toasting Gilmore with garbage Mariota at QB.
It wasn't enough for fantasy relevance but by the eye test he looked more involved to me with Tannehill too.
That said: he needs off the Titans and to go to a team/QB more willing to throw into tight windows and let WRs make plays on the ball since separation isn't his strong suit
But if he’s going for less than that and I can snag him for a third I’d take the shot at that point
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Brandin Cooks was my #1 bargain target this offseason. ✔
Any time he's had triple digit targets, he's produced as a high end WR2 (WR15) or better. Assuming health, he's a lock for that volume in Houston. Hopkins vacates 150 alone.
Recency bias is real. The down year in LA last year and the concussion fears have plummeted his ADP.
While the concussion history is concerning, he's actually been very durable. There are only 5 WRs that have played more games in the last 5 years than Cooks. He's been available for 92% of his career games.
Cooks now gets Watson, who was the most accurate QB in 2019 on passes of 20+ yards.
The only WR with more targets with a step or more of separation 20+ yards downfield since 2017 is Tyreek. Hill has 58. Cooks has 47. Julio is 3rd at 42.
Cooks is still only 26. He's going as WR44 in dynasty. Easy
Any time he's had triple digit targets, he's produced as a high end WR2 (WR15) or better. Assuming health, he's a lock for that volume in Houston. Hopkins vacates 150 alone.
Recency bias is real. The down year in LA last year and the concussion fears have plummeted his ADP.
While the concussion history is concerning, he's actually been very durable. There are only 5 WRs that have played more games in the last 5 years than Cooks. He's been available for 92% of his career games.
Cooks now gets Watson, who was the most accurate QB in 2019 on passes of 20+ yards.
The only WR with more targets with a step or more of separation 20+ yards downfield since 2017 is Tyreek. Hill has 58. Cooks has 47. Julio is 3rd at 42.
Cooks is still only 26. He's going as WR44 in dynasty. Easy
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One hit from retirement is a real risk of ownershipOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:23 am Brandin Cooks was my #1 bargain target this offseason. ✔
Any time he's had triple digit targets, he's produced as a high end WR2 (WR15) or better. Assuming health, he's a lock for that volume in Houston. Hopkins vacates 150 alone.
Recency bias is real. The down year in LA last year and the concussion fears have plummeted his ADP.
While the concussion history is concerning, he's actually been very durable. There are only 5 WRs that have played more games in the last 5 years than Cooks. He's been available for 92% of his career games.
Cooks now gets Watson, who was the most accurate QB in 2019 on passes of 20+ yards.
The only WR with more targets with a step or more of separation 20+ yards downfield since 2017 is Tyreek. Hill has 58. Cooks has 47. Julio is 3rd at 42.
Cooks is still only 26. He's going as WR44 in dynasty. Easy
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As it is with every other player. The reward > risk at his current price.murphysxm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:45 amOne hit from retirement is a real risk of ownershipOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:23 am Brandin Cooks was my #1 bargain target this offseason. ✔
Any time he's had triple digit targets, he's produced as a high end WR2 (WR15) or better. Assuming health, he's a lock for that volume in Houston. Hopkins vacates 150 alone.
Recency bias is real. The down year in LA last year and the concussion fears have plummeted his ADP.
While the concussion history is concerning, he's actually been very durable. There are only 5 WRs that have played more games in the last 5 years than Cooks. He's been available for 92% of his career games.
Cooks now gets Watson, who was the most accurate QB in 2019 on passes of 20+ yards.
The only WR with more targets with a step or more of separation 20+ yards downfield since 2017 is Tyreek. Hill has 58. Cooks has 47. Julio is 3rd at 42.
Cooks is still only 26. He's going as WR44 in dynasty. Easy
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
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Re: Bargain players than need to be shopped
I'm not buying him, but I'm holding where I have him. I still believe in the talent. I'll hold until he gets a shot on another team.dlf_johnh wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:10 pm This is probably going to be an unpopular take, but Corey Davis.
It's kind of gross, I know, but hear me out here. Davis is only 25 years old and finishing his rookie contract. I don't envision him getting re-signed by the Titans, but I do see his first-round pedigree landing him somewhere on a skinny, prove-it kind of deal. If he lands somewhere that targets him, he could be a longer-term bargain at his current dirt-cheap price.
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I think there are a number of sophomore breakouts that could explode & are an absolute bargain at ADP:
Mecole Hardman, Parris Campbell, N'Keal Harry.
I think that Will Fuller is the best WR outside of the top 50. Hopkins left behind 150 targets from one of the best QBs in the league. I think Fuller has always had the talent to be a top perimeter threat in this league. You'll deal with drops and hold your breathe every snap but at WR51, who cares? Guy could actually break into the top-10 with a consistent target share & a couple of enormous games.
Mecole Hardman, Parris Campbell, N'Keal Harry.
I think that Will Fuller is the best WR outside of the top 50. Hopkins left behind 150 targets from one of the best QBs in the league. I think Fuller has always had the talent to be a top perimeter threat in this league. You'll deal with drops and hold your breathe every snap but at WR51, who cares? Guy could actually break into the top-10 with a consistent target share & a couple of enormous games.
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Maybe he steps it up this year since he will be playing for that next big contract. I think we will find out a lot this year as to whether or not he will be worth holding on to.briank wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:57 amI'm not buying him, but I'm holding where I have him. I still believe in the talent. I'll hold until he gets a shot on another team.dlf_johnh wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:10 pm This is probably going to be an unpopular take, but Corey Davis.
It's kind of gross, I know, but hear me out here. Davis is only 25 years old and finishing his rookie contract. I don't envision him getting re-signed by the Titans, but I do see his first-round pedigree landing him somewhere on a skinny, prove-it kind of deal. If he lands somewhere that targets him, he could be a longer-term bargain at his current dirt-cheap price.
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I like all of the guys named thus far. To me, Jordan Howard and Brandin Cooks stick out as the most blantant values for those looking to compete. In a rebuild, Hardman (who's already been named) is a good one. Preston Williams costs nothing and has solid upside.
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Fuller and Cooks are both 26 and have WR1 upside at a WR4 price. I'd be fine with either, but prefer Cooks due to his durability and career success thus far.CL3VELANDBR0WNS wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:28 am I think that Will Fuller is the best WR outside of the top 50. Hopkins left behind 150 targets from one of the best QBs in the league. I think Fuller has always had the talent to be a top perimeter threat in this league. You'll deal with drops and hold your breathe every snap but at WR51, who cares? Guy could actually break into the top-10 with a consistent target share & a couple of enormous games.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
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I like Cooks and think he'll have a nice season, but some of these stats are a little loose with the truth.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:23 amThere are only 5 WRs that have played more games in the last 5 years than Cooks. He's been available for 92% of his career games.
Sure, he started a lot of games. How many did he not finish? How many did his owners have to sweat out til the last second to see if he'd play? Were those questions before games on a Sunday or Monday night, forcing you to start someone else long before his status is revealed? Did he play hurt and get used mostly as a decoy?
Those things don't make the stat sheet and contribute to the injury risk label.
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They actually kind of do make the stat sheet. The injury report history is available on pro football reference. Cooks was on the injury report only for the two games he missed. Data could be wrong, but it’s as good a source as any.Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:34 amI like Cooks and think he'll have a nice season, but some of these stats are a little loose with the truth.Orenthal Shames wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:23 amThere are only 5 WRs that have played more games in the last 5 years than Cooks. He's been available for 92% of his career games.
Sure, he started a lot of games. How many did he not finish? How many did his owners have to sweat out til the last second to see if he'd play? Were those questions before games on a Sunday or Monday night, forcing you to start someone else long before his status is revealed? Did he play hurt and get used mostly as a decoy?
Those things don't make the stat sheet and contribute to the injury risk label.
As for being removed from games, you can usually make an educated guess on that off of snap count by game data. He appears to have been pulled out of zero games in 2017. One game in 2018. Three games in 2019.
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