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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:30 pm
by Cameron Giles
mgscott wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:06 pm
OhCruelestRanter wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:15 pm
Why did Smith go back to school? Does anybody know if there was an extenuating circumstance? He lead Bama in receiving yardage last year, I assume he got back feedback about his draft slot.
I never heard. My guess is he bet on himself. Probably was told he would be a 2nd rounder due to the deep class and overshadowed by Jeudy at least. Even though Smith out -produced him. This is just a guess and it looks like it worked out.
This is my guess as well.

Only slight downside for rookie drafts is that Smith will be 23 midway through his rookie year (ditto for Waddle).

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:00 pm
by cantguardjake
OhCruelestRanter wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:15 pm
Why did Smith go back to school? Does anybody know if there was an extenuating circumstance? He lead Bama in receiving yardage last year, I assume he got back feedback about his draft slot.
I read an interview with Mac Jones where he said Smith went back to improve his draft stock, so it sounds like that’s the case.

I do find it a little strange how last year he was seen as second round rookie draft pick, and all he’s really done is go back and beat up a heap of weakened teams at 22 years old and he’s suddenly the 1.01 in a lot of places I’m reading lol

Also led the NCAA in screens caught, that was enough for some people to fade Aiyuk.

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:58 pm
by jman3134
DeVonta Smith. Wow.

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:15 pm
by Sriracha
I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Devonta as the WR1 of this class.

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:28 pm
by remedy29
I have seen a lot of Alabama scheming Devontae Smith open. None of that impresses me as that won't help him in the NFL. I saw he beat a guy deep, but the defender didn't even touch him off the line of scrimmage. I missed his first couple of catches, so not sure what he did there.

I want to like Devontae Smith, as I have the 3rd pick and I don't like that JaMarr Chase sat out this season. But I'm not getting overly excited about pushing Smith up to WR1.

I've been more impressed with Najee Harris.

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:31 pm
by steelman
Sriracha wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:15 pm
I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Devonta as the WR1 of this class.
His size and lack of athleticism vs NFL DB's scares me. I would have a hard time taking him that early. I would probably look at trading back or taking the next man up.

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:33 pm
by Cameron Giles
remedy29 wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:28 pm
I have seen a lot of Alabama scheming Devontae Smith open. None of that impresses me as that won't help him in the NFL. I saw he beat a guy deep, but the defender didn't even touch him off the line of scrimmage. I missed his first couple of catches, so not sure what he did there.

I want to like Devontae Smith, as I have the 3rd pick and I don't like that JaMarr Chase sat out this season. But I'm not getting overly excited about pushing Smith up to WR1.

I've been more impressed with Najee Harris.
Smith doesn't even need the manufactured touches; he can get open at will. But, it's always smart for an OC to realize that you should get the ball to your best player anyway you can.

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:08 pm
by joeday
Cameron Giles wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:33 pm
remedy29 wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:28 pm
I have seen a lot of Alabama scheming Devontae Smith open. None of that impresses me as that won't help him in the NFL. I saw he beat a guy deep, but the defender didn't even touch him off the line of scrimmage. I missed his first couple of catches, so not sure what he did there.

I want to like Devontae Smith, as I have the 3rd pick and I don't like that JaMarr Chase sat out this season. But I'm not getting overly excited about pushing Smith up to WR1.

I've been more impressed with Najee Harris.
Smith doesn't even need the manufactured touches; he can get open at will. But, it's always smart for an OC to realize that you should get the ball to your best player anyway you can.
I have to say, the catch Smith made that I was most impressed with was early in the game where he reaches for a ball thrown on the sideline and he taps both feet. He is going to be a better version of Calvin Ridley, and I love Calvin Ridley.

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:32 pm
by cantguardjake
That catch where he torched some scrub linebacker down the seam sums up his season for me.

Not saying he’s bad, as he’s clearly not, but I’m not paying a top 4 pick for someone who will have a BMI that normally costs an early second.

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:36 pm
by Krypto_King
steelman wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:31 pm
Sriracha wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:15 pm
I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Devonta as the WR1 of this class.
His size and lack of athleticism vs NFL DB's scares me. I would have a hard time taking him that early. I would probably look at trading back or taking the next man up.
You think he will lack athleticism or weight-adjusted athleticism? I think his raw speed/quickness will test pretty well, same as Jeudy/Ridley

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:02 pm
by Sriracha
Krypto_King wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:36 pm
steelman wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:31 pm
Sriracha wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 8:15 pm
I'm starting to warm up to the idea of Devonta as the WR1 of this class.
His size and lack of athleticism vs NFL DB's scares me. I would have a hard time taking him that early. I would probably look at trading back or taking the next man up.
You think he will lack athleticism or weight-adjusted athleticism? I think his raw speed/quickness will test pretty well, same as Jeudy/Ridley
I completely understand what youre saying.. but its not like Weve never seen a WR with this body type have success (Marvin Harrison)... and he just looks absolutely unstoppable no matter what defenses do to take him out of the game.

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:44 am
by Dynos
my question is why everyone talks about devonta smith BMI and no one is talking about jaylen waddle BMI?

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:44 am
by Dynos
Dynos wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:44 am
my question is why many people talks about devonta smith BMI and no one is talking about jaylen waddle BMI?

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:36 am
by YouMightDieTryin
Waddle supposedly passed all his rehab assignments and had full ROM, but the way he looked like a wounded gazelle just flopping around was hard to watch. Was he trying to push his draft stock down?

Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:05 am
by SStory93
YouMightDieTryin wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:36 am
Waddle supposedly passed all his rehab assignments and had full ROM, but the way he looked like a wounded gazelle just flopping around was hard to watch. Was he trying to push his draft stock down?
From what was said, it wasn't about the draft at all. Waddle wanted to be part of the national championship game one more time before he went to the NFL. Seems like a solid team player.