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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:48 pm

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Chuba Hubbard not going to play because of a T Shirt his coach wore a few days ago.
Should have entered the draft.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:53 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:48 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:28 pm
Chuba Hubbard not going to play because of a T Shirt his coach wore a few days ago.
Should have entered the draft.
Yep.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:41 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:53 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:48 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:28 pm
Chuba Hubbard not going to play because of a T Shirt his coach wore a few days ago.
Should have entered the draft.
Yep.
Did I see they just put up a "makeup" or apology? Not sure if that's what this is

https://mobile.twitter.com/Hubbard_RMN/ ... 2795084801
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - [b]14 Keepers[/b]
QB: Mahomes, J. Allen, Baker, D. Jones, Eason
RB: JT, Mostert, Gaskin, Dillon, Gus, Mattison, McFarland, Snell, Wilson, McKissic, Darrel
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Jeudy, Hollywood, Cooks, Mims, Hardman, Preston, Parris
TE: Andrews, Fant, Henry
2021: 1.10, 2, 3, 4, 5.08, 5.10, 6, 7, 9, 10

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - [b]20 Keepers[/b]
QB: [b]Mahomes, Ryan,[/b] Minshew, Trubisky, Mariota
RB: [b]Saquon, Jacobs, Dobbins, Hunt,[/b] Penny, Snell
WR: [b]AJB, DJM, Chark, Ruggs, Hardman, Mike Will, C. Davis, C. Samuel,[/b] G. Davis, Mooney, Lazard, J. Washington
TE: [b]Andrews, Henry, Gesicki, Tonyan,[/b] Irv
2021: 1.03, 2.05, 2.09, 3.05, 3.09
2022: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby AussieMate » Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:03 pm

Jigga94 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:41 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:53 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:48 pm


Should have entered the draft.
Yep.
Did I see they just put up a "makeup" or apology? Not sure if that's what this is

https://mobile.twitter.com/Hubbard_RMN/ ... 2795084801
Strange I don't think I heard an apology in that besides Chuba.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:35 pm

AussieMate wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:03 pm
Jigga94 wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:41 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:53 pm


Yep.
Did I see they just put up a "makeup" or apology? Not sure if that's what this is

https://mobile.twitter.com/Hubbard_RMN/ ... 2795084801
Strange I don't think I heard an apology in that besides Chuba.
I'm not getting into it... Just saying it looks like it was a quick resolution to this
2QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX - PPR - [b]14 Keepers[/b]
QB: Mahomes, J. Allen, Baker, D. Jones, Eason
RB: JT, Mostert, Gaskin, Dillon, Gus, Mattison, McFarland, Snell, Wilson, McKissic, Darrel
WR: Tyreek, DJM, Jeudy, Hollywood, Cooks, Mims, Hardman, Preston, Parris
TE: Andrews, Fant, Henry
2021: 1.10, 2, 3, 4, 5.08, 5.10, 6, 7, 9, 10

2QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 3FLEX - PPR - [b]20 Keepers[/b]
QB: [b]Mahomes, Ryan,[/b] Minshew, Trubisky, Mariota
RB: [b]Saquon, Jacobs, Dobbins, Hunt,[/b] Penny, Snell
WR: [b]AJB, DJM, Chark, Ruggs, Hardman, Mike Will, C. Davis, C. Samuel,[/b] G. Davis, Mooney, Lazard, J. Washington
TE: [b]Andrews, Henry, Gesicki, Tonyan,[/b] Irv
2021: 1.03, 2.05, 2.09, 3.05, 3.09
2022: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby FuzzySignificance » Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:55 am

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Tue May 26, 2020 8:16 pm
I'm Canadian, and want Hubbard to do well, but I don't see him as a top prospect.
he's going to head into the draft with two consecutive 2k rushing seasons, and will likely weigh in at 215 while running sub 4.4. really doubt he's not going to be a top prospect.
12 team ppr, 1 qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, 1 te, 2 flex
QB: Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, Le'Veon Bell, Kerryon Johnson, Peyton Barber, Ronald Jones, Darwin Thompson
WR: Amari Cooper, Adam Thielen, Antonio Brown, Will Fuller, DeDe Westbrook, Robby Anderson, Marquise Goodwin, Justin Watson, Albert Wilson, Greg Dortch
TE: Travis Kelce, Vance McDonald, Kyle Rudolph, Delanie Walker, Ian Thomas, Gerald Everett

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby StripesOfKC » Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:55 pm

FuzzySignificance wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:55 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:16 pm
I'm Canadian, and want Hubbard to do well, but I don't see him as a top prospect.
he's going to head into the draft with two consecutive 2k rushing seasons, and will likely weigh in at 215 while running sub 4.4. really doubt he's not going to be a top prospect.
With bad pass pro, limited pass catching involvement, a very linear style of running, and not so great contact balance against Big 12 competition

Not saying he sucks but there are reasons to be skeptical of how he projects in the NFL (and for dynasty purposes)
Team 1

8 Team PPR
2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 3 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K
2019-20 Champion
QB: Burrow, Tannehill, Stafford, Eason
RB: Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, CEH, D'Andre Swift, Damien Harris, Pollard, Cohen, Darrynton Evans
WR: AJ Brown, McLaurin, Justin Jefferson, Julio, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, DJ Chark, Gallup, Mims, Pittman, Bryan Edwards, Parris Campbell, Mooney, Collin Johnson, Marquez Callaway
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Gesicki, Trautman
D: Steelers
K: Random Dude

2021: 1.6
2022: 3 1sts, 1 2nd, 2 3rd, 2 4ths
2023: 2 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th

Team 2

IDP Orphan 12 Team 1 QB PPR 0.5 Pt Per Comp, -0.5 Pt for Incomp
QB: Rodgers, Brady, Tua
RB: Mixon, CEH, Michel, James White
WR: Lockett, Gallup, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Mims
TE: Gesicki, Goedert

DL: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, Jeffrey Simmons
LB: Brian Burns, Logan Wilson, Jordyn Brooks, K'Lavon Chiasson
DB: Marlon Humphrey, Eddie Jackson, Chuck Clark, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby bjd5211 » Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:32 pm

FuzzySignificance wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:55 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:16 pm
I'm Canadian, and want Hubbard to do well, but I don't see him as a top prospect.
he's going to head into the draft with two consecutive 2k rushing seasons, and will likely weigh in at 215 while running sub 4.4. really doubt he's not going to be a top prospect.
If he was so great he would have been on an NFL roster today because he wouldn't have returned to school. He won't be running sub 4.4 either.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:52 pm

FuzzySignificance wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:55 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:16 pm
I'm Canadian, and want Hubbard to do well, but I don't see him as a top prospect.
he's going to head into the draft with two consecutive 2k rushing seasons, and will likely weigh in at 215 while running sub 4.4. really doubt he's not going to be a top prospect.
First off, he's not going to weigh in at 215. He is listed at 91 kg, or 200 pounds, basically. Most often, weight is listed generously, in college. In other words, he's more than likely sub 200 right now. He's a day 2 guy at best, IMO in other words, not a top prospect. Almost no chance he's a first rounder.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby StripesOfKC » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:07 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:52 pm
FuzzySignificance wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:55 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:16 pm
I'm Canadian, and want Hubbard to do well, but I don't see him as a top prospect.
he's going to head into the draft with two consecutive 2k rushing seasons, and will likely weigh in at 215 while running sub 4.4. really doubt he's not going to be a top prospect.
First off, he's not going to weigh in at 215. He is listed at 91 kg, or 200 pounds, basically. Most often, weight is listed generously, in college. In other words, he's more than likely sub 200 right now. He's a day 2 guy at best, IMO in other words, not a top prospect. Almost no chance he's a first rounder.
I mean I agree with you on Hubbard overall but nowadays even top RB prospects are day 2 guys. Are Dobbins and JT not top prospects? Or Chubb 2 years ago?

With that said Hubbard has enough flaws in his tape for me to not have him as a top 5 2021 player (dynasty wise) barring an incredible landing spot, but him being a day 2 player as reasoning is a bit nitpicky IMO
Team 1

8 Team PPR
2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 3 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K
2019-20 Champion
QB: Burrow, Tannehill, Stafford, Eason
RB: Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, CEH, D'Andre Swift, Damien Harris, Pollard, Cohen, Darrynton Evans
WR: AJ Brown, McLaurin, Justin Jefferson, Julio, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, DJ Chark, Gallup, Mims, Pittman, Bryan Edwards, Parris Campbell, Mooney, Collin Johnson, Marquez Callaway
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Gesicki, Trautman
D: Steelers
K: Random Dude

2021: 1.6
2022: 3 1sts, 1 2nd, 2 3rd, 2 4ths
2023: 2 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th

Team 2

IDP Orphan 12 Team 1 QB PPR 0.5 Pt Per Comp, -0.5 Pt for Incomp
QB: Rodgers, Brady, Tua
RB: Mixon, CEH, Michel, James White
WR: Lockett, Gallup, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Mims
TE: Gesicki, Goedert

DL: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, Jeffrey Simmons
LB: Brian Burns, Logan Wilson, Jordyn Brooks, K'Lavon Chiasson
DB: Marlon Humphrey, Eddie Jackson, Chuck Clark, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:09 pm

StripesOfKC wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:07 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:52 pm
FuzzySignificance wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:55 am


he's going to head into the draft with two consecutive 2k rushing seasons, and will likely weigh in at 215 while running sub 4.4. really doubt he's not going to be a top prospect.
First off, he's not going to weigh in at 215. He is listed at 91 kg, or 200 pounds, basically. Most often, weight is listed generously, in college. In other words, he's more than likely sub 200 right now. He's a day 2 guy at best, IMO in other words, not a top prospect. Almost no chance he's a first rounder.
I mean I agree with you on Hubbard overall but nowadays even top RB prospects are day 2 guys. Are Dobbins and JT not top prospects? Or Chubb 2 years ago?

With that said Hubbard has enough flaws in his tape for me to not have him as a top 5 2021 player (dynasty wise) barring an incredible landing spot, but him being a day 2 player as reasoning is a bit nitpicky IMO
I did say at best. I'm not even certain he goes day 2. I think he could be a 3rd round type guy, but unless he improves in areas mentioned above, I don't think he's even a 2nd round guy. If you are a third round RB, you aren't a top prospect IMO. Monty, Henderson, Vaughn, Gibson over the past few years aren't top prospects. It is a weak class, so it may be that he is drafted near the top of the RB's, but that still doesn't mean as a prospect he's good, in a vacuum. If your'e going in round 3, regardless of position, you aren't a "top prospect" in my books. That's what I am saying. I feel Hubbard is rated higher in the Dynasty community than the NFL is valuing him, or will value him.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby StripesOfKC » Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:39 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:09 pm
StripesOfKC wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:07 pm
FantasyFreak wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:52 pm


First off, he's not going to weigh in at 215. He is listed at 91 kg, or 200 pounds, basically. Most often, weight is listed generously, in college. In other words, he's more than likely sub 200 right now. He's a day 2 guy at best, IMO in other words, not a top prospect. Almost no chance he's a first rounder.
I mean I agree with you on Hubbard overall but nowadays even top RB prospects are day 2 guys. Are Dobbins and JT not top prospects? Or Chubb 2 years ago?

With that said Hubbard has enough flaws in his tape for me to not have him as a top 5 2021 player (dynasty wise) barring an incredible landing spot, but him being a day 2 player as reasoning is a bit nitpicky IMO
I did say at best. I'm not even certain he goes day 2. I think he could be a 3rd round type guy, but unless he improves in areas mentioned above, I don't think he's even a 2nd round guy. If you are a third round RB, you aren't a top prospect IMO. Monty, Henderson, Vaughn, Gibson over the past few years aren't top prospects. It is a weak class, so it may be that he is drafted near the top of the RB's, but that still doesn't mean as a prospect he's good, in a vacuum. If your'e going in round 3, regardless of position, you aren't a "top prospect" in my books. That's what I am saying. I feel Hubbard is rated higher in the Dynasty community than the NFL is valuing him, or will value him.
I agree 100%. I think if he did declare in this class there was a reasonable chance he would have gone 4th round or at best late 3rd like Darrynton Evans
Team 1

8 Team PPR
2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 3 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K
2019-20 Champion
QB: Burrow, Tannehill, Stafford, Eason
RB: Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, CEH, D'Andre Swift, Damien Harris, Pollard, Cohen, Darrynton Evans
WR: AJ Brown, McLaurin, Justin Jefferson, Julio, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, DJ Chark, Gallup, Mims, Pittman, Bryan Edwards, Parris Campbell, Mooney, Collin Johnson, Marquez Callaway
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Gesicki, Trautman
D: Steelers
K: Random Dude

2021: 1.6
2022: 3 1sts, 1 2nd, 2 3rd, 2 4ths
2023: 2 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th

Team 2

IDP Orphan 12 Team 1 QB PPR 0.5 Pt Per Comp, -0.5 Pt for Incomp
QB: Rodgers, Brady, Tua
RB: Mixon, CEH, Michel, James White
WR: Lockett, Gallup, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Mims
TE: Gesicki, Goedert

DL: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, Jeffrey Simmons
LB: Brian Burns, Logan Wilson, Jordyn Brooks, K'Lavon Chiasson
DB: Marlon Humphrey, Eddie Jackson, Chuck Clark, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby StripesOfKC » Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:07 pm

I think that--in a year--anyone who had a chance to get an RB at decent value in this year's draft and passed is really going to be regretting it unless the WR they took has a stud rookie year. In SF same deal with anyone who reached for Herbert over Swift/Akers
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Team 1

8 Team PPR
2 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 3 FLEX, 1 TE, 1 D, 1 K
2019-20 Champion
QB: Burrow, Tannehill, Stafford, Eason
RB: Jonathan Taylor, JK Dobbins, CEH, D'Andre Swift, Damien Harris, Pollard, Cohen, Darrynton Evans
WR: AJ Brown, McLaurin, Justin Jefferson, Julio, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jerry Jeudy, DJ Chark, Gallup, Mims, Pittman, Bryan Edwards, Parris Campbell, Mooney, Collin Johnson, Marquez Callaway
TE: Kittle, Hockenson, Gesicki, Trautman
D: Steelers
K: Random Dude

2021: 1.6
2022: 3 1sts, 1 2nd, 2 3rd, 2 4ths
2023: 2 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th

Team 2

IDP Orphan 12 Team 1 QB PPR 0.5 Pt Per Comp, -0.5 Pt for Incomp
QB: Rodgers, Brady, Tua
RB: Mixon, CEH, Michel, James White
WR: Lockett, Gallup, Justin Jefferson, Reagor, Mims
TE: Gesicki, Goedert

DL: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett, Jeffrey Simmons
LB: Brian Burns, Logan Wilson, Jordyn Brooks, K'Lavon Chiasson
DB: Marlon Humphrey, Eddie Jackson, Chuck Clark, Xavier McKinney, Kyle Dugger

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby FuzzySignificance » Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:52 am

bjd5211 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:32 pm
FuzzySignificance wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:55 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 8:16 pm
I'm Canadian, and want Hubbard to do well, but I don't see him as a top prospect.
he's going to head into the draft with two consecutive 2k rushing seasons, and will likely weigh in at 215 while running sub 4.4. really doubt he's not going to be a top prospect.
If he was so great he would have been on an NFL roster today because he wouldn't have returned to school. He won't be running sub 4.4 either.
ignoring the comment about why a redshirt sophmore decides to go back to school vs compete against an historically strong rb class....he a team canada sprinter, ran a 4.3 in hs. he'll run sub 4.4
12 team ppr, 1 qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, 1 te, 2 flex
QB: Deshaun Watson, Marcus Mariota
RB: Ezekiel Elliott, Le'Veon Bell, Kerryon Johnson, Peyton Barber, Ronald Jones, Darwin Thompson
WR: Amari Cooper, Adam Thielen, Antonio Brown, Will Fuller, DeDe Westbrook, Robby Anderson, Marquise Goodwin, Justin Watson, Albert Wilson, Greg Dortch
TE: Travis Kelce, Vance McDonald, Kyle Rudolph, Delanie Walker, Ian Thomas, Gerald Everett

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby bjd5211 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 7:00 am

FuzzySignificance wrote:
Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:52 am
bjd5211 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:32 pm
FuzzySignificance wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 6:55 am


he's going to head into the draft with two consecutive 2k rushing seasons, and will likely weigh in at 215 while running sub 4.4. really doubt he's not going to be a top prospect.
If he was so great he would have been on an NFL roster today because he wouldn't have returned to school. He won't be running sub 4.4 either.
ignoring the comment about why a redshirt sophmore decides to go back to school vs compete against an historically strong rb class....he a team canada sprinter, ran a 4.3 in hs. he'll run sub 4.4
A lot of people allegedly ran a 4.3 in HS, and then don't at the Combine or Pro Day.

The Redshirt year is irrelevant, all you need is 1 year (especially at RB ask CEH or Jacobs) to display what you can do and that you can perform at the NFL level.


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