Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread
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Jermar Jefferson and Javonte Williams are 2 guys I'm intrigued by at RB. Jefferson just went nuts in an upset win over Oregon, and he appears to have size to be an every down back at 5'10 214.
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My mindset going into next year's draft has been to target Fields with the hope of getting a similar player to Lawrence at less of a premium, so the way you laid this out intrigues me.
Could you explain the logic for this? I am relatively new to Dynasty and only play 1Qb right now.
I'm not disagreeing or arguing, I'm genuinely asking.
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I generally think in 1 QB you want all upside as the front QBs don't give you much advantage. SF, you can use those fringe guys and sometimes prefer the safer option.Krypto_King wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:09 amsounds like Fields in 1QB and TLaw in SF.
Pitts at 1.03 instead of trading that pick now for.... any TE++ doesn't seem wise
Do you feel Fields has more upside than Lawrence?
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1QB/SF wont chance my rankings on these QB. Maybe if you take into account draft capital. I'd rather Fields if he goes a round or so later in 1QB.Krypto_King wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:09 amsounds like Fields in 1QB and TLaw in SF.
Pitts at 1.03 instead of trading that pick now for.... any TE++ doesn't seem wise
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what jigga said. replacement level in 1QB is so much higher and the investment so much lower so you can gamble on hitting that top 3-5 upside. It is the same way prior to this season I would have said Mahomes QB1 in Superflex but more ok with Lamar in 1QB.boochluke wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:57 amMy mindset going into next year's draft has been to target Fields with the hope of getting a similar player to Lawrence at less of a premium, so the way you laid this out intrigues me.
Could you explain the logic for this? I am relatively new to Dynasty and only play 1Qb right now.
I'm not disagreeing or arguing, I'm genuinely asking.
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1qb all you really care about is upside because if a guy isn't a top 3-5 QB then he's just in a pile of 20 similar guys. If he falls flat you can just grab one of those other guys for cheap and replace him easily.boochluke wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:57 amMy mindset going into next year's draft has been to target Fields with the hope of getting a similar player to Lawrence at less of a premium, so the way you laid this out intrigues me.
Could you explain the logic for this? I am relatively new to Dynasty and only play 1Qb right now.
I'm not disagreeing or arguing, I'm genuinely asking.
In Superflex you want guys that you can rely on as long term starters. QBs are harder to find and you always want one starting in your SF spot so a guy that is locked in long term is worth a lot even if he's not a top 3 scorer.
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Trevor Lawrence is still the #1 QB in the class regardless of format. Fields may have a slightly higher ceiling as a rusher, but Lawrence is absolutely no slouch in that department himself and is going to score fair amount of fantasy points on the ground especially near the goalline.
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Not really - Moore, Smith and Waddle are tiny, 2 already with fairly significant injuries in college.mild wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:09 pmremedy29 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:59 pm As the owner of the likely 2021 1.03 I couldn't be less thrilled in a standard PPR league. After ETN and Chase, the next prospect I'm excited about is Pitts. I want nothing to do with Waddle or Rondale Moore or Devonta Smith with a high first round pick. Bateman I'm interested in, but is he a high 1st worthy pick?
Regarding some of the QBs, shouldn't Justin Fields be the top ranked fantasy QB? Had recent history taught us nothing? The athletic QBs with solid passing ability and strong arms are fantasy gold. If they can actually develop into a quality passer, they'll be a true stud. Lawrence is mobile, but not to the extent Fields is.
You want no part of some of the better WR's we've seen in college in recent years, and yet you're excited to take a rookie TE? And you're saying your league is standard, non-TE boosted?
That's a weird take, mango.
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Zach Wilson was cute while it lasted
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Agreed. He's got the higher upside stillbjd5211 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:28 pm Trevor Lawrence is still the #1 QB in the class regardless of format. Fields may have a slightly higher ceiling as a rusher, but Lawrence is absolutely no slouch in that department himself and is going to score fair amount of fantasy points on the ground especially near the goalline.
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So it’s seeming like Etienne, Hubbard and Harris are the only RBs generating any excitement and amidst that Etienne looks like an early candidate for his own tier landing spot not withstanding.
If I’m looking at WR tiers it still seems like Chase is in his own tier with maybe guys like Smith and Batemen right behind. This size of a lot of these good receivers is a little disconcerting too. Was talking to my other ravens fan friend about Devonta Smith and thinking if he could be a guy for the ravens mid to late first but then we have two sub 180 WRs lol
If I’m looking at WR tiers it still seems like Chase is in his own tier with maybe guys like Smith and Batemen right behind. This size of a lot of these good receivers is a little disconcerting too. Was talking to my other ravens fan friend about Devonta Smith and thinking if he could be a guy for the ravens mid to late first but then we have two sub 180 WRs lol
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I went to look up Terrance Marshall's stats against Alabama, then realized he opted out. I am not buying the Covid excuse, it seems more likely they do not want to put out bad or average college tape. I believe these players will be negatively impacted during the draft too.
Ja'Marr Chase - I assume he will still be drafted high in NFL 1st round
Terrace Marshall - I think he hurt his stock a lot
Rashod Bateman - first round NFL draft pick? perhaps.
Kenneth Gainwell and Kylin Hill.
Although, not opt outs, but I would have questions about Jaylen Waddle and Rondale Moore too. Waddle hasn't had a complete college season with top production and Moore looks like a gadget player. I think the NFL 1st round draft is going to be devoid of RB and WR this year.
Ja'Marr Chase - I assume he will still be drafted high in NFL 1st round
Terrace Marshall - I think he hurt his stock a lot
Rashod Bateman - first round NFL draft pick? perhaps.
Kenneth Gainwell and Kylin Hill.
Although, not opt outs, but I would have questions about Jaylen Waddle and Rondale Moore too. Waddle hasn't had a complete college season with top production and Moore looks like a gadget player. I think the NFL 1st round draft is going to be devoid of RB and WR this year.
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Yeah for me, the RBs are Etienne, Harris, and then the rest. Not an impressive RB group, but there's always surprises.Mike11 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:40 am So it’s seeming like Etienne, Hubbard and Harris are the only RBs generating any excitement and amidst that Etienne looks like an early candidate for his own tier landing spot not withstanding.
If I’m looking at WR tiers it still seems like Chase is in his own tier with maybe guys like Smith and Batemen right behind. This size of a lot of these good receivers is a little disconcerting too. Was talking to my other ravens fan friend about Devonta Smith and thinking if he could be a guy for the ravens mid to late first but then we have two sub 180 WRs lol
This is definitely a WR/QB draft.
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Who would you compare Etienne and Najee to?Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:14 amYeah for me, the RBs are Etienne, Harris, and then the rest. Not an impressive RB group, but there's always surprises.Mike11 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:40 am So it’s seeming like Etienne, Hubbard and Harris are the only RBs generating any excitement and amidst that Etienne looks like an early candidate for his own tier landing spot not withstanding.
If I’m looking at WR tiers it still seems like Chase is in his own tier with maybe guys like Smith and Batemen right behind. This size of a lot of these good receivers is a little disconcerting too. Was talking to my other ravens fan friend about Devonta Smith and thinking if he could be a guy for the ravens mid to late first but then we have two sub 180 WRs lol
This is definitely a WR/QB draft.
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I will be very interested to see Kenneth Gainwell at the combine, especially his weigh-in.
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