Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby broncohead » Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:29 pm

If Mac Jones goes in the 1st, I’ll def be considering him as a buy low in my auction sf league. Herbert had a negative perception by a large part of the ff community as well. Granted Jones doesn’t have the physical make-up Herbert does but he has to be considered in 2qb or sf leagues if drafted in the 1st.
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QB - Wentz, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jones, Alex Smith
RB - Chubb, Hunt, Swift, Akers, Henderson, Mostert, Mack, Bowden, Hill
WR - AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Gabriel Davis, Slayton, Hamler, Isabella
TE - Fant, Burton, Firkser, Keene, Okuegbunam
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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby briank » Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:49 pm

realmacaroni wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:27 pm blah blah blah, take it to the dm's, dogs, this is wack

someone talk about draft prospect in a meaningful way to FF already

what u guys are doing doesn't belong here
Agreed.
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QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
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12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby cantguardjake » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:02 pm

DJB wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:55 pm
jenkins.math wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:36 pm
AussieMate wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:27 pm

Trask I'm not too sure on, but I'm completely off on Mac, I just don't see much about his play that I like besides looking at his box score at the end of games. Also add to that how Tua and previous Bama QB's have looked I'm fading that system a bit, and usually I'm against team scouting but I'm at least bringing it into consideration when looking at these guys.
I really like the look of Lances potential but I doubt he gets the Indy's pick.
I have a hard time evaluating Bama QB's (and other Bama players to a lesser extent) because they literally have the ideal scenario. Great scheme, great line, great run game, most talented roster, best coach, etc. It's almost impossible not to look good as their QB.
I think its pretty simple with Mac Jones. Don't waste your SF draft capital unless he falls to the 3rd round.

He looks like a career NFL backup at best.
I thought this at first but man, he throws serious dimes.

He navigates the pocket really well, which was my knock on Tua, and has a stronger arm (whilst not “big” seems adequate for NFL level). IMO he’s a much better prospect than Tua (the stats he put up in the same offensive system seem to back that up).

Whilst I’m not convinced of his fantasy ceiling (ala someone like Kirk Cousins), he looks like he should be a serviceable NFL starter.

Honestly, if I’m the Jags I’d trade back from 1 for a team drinking the Lawrence Koolaid and settle for one of Wilson, Fields or Jones - they are all equal to, if not better, than Lawrence.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby cantguardjake » Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:14 pm

Have gotten around to watching some more RB prospects and Sermon actually didn’t impress me at all. He looks sluggish, even in his monster games - good when he gets to the second level, but pretty average everywhere else.

Looking like there will only be 3 top tier prospects in Etienne, Williams and Harris (in that order for me, I’ve come around on Harris but still have him behind those 2).

Other interesting prospects are Kylin Hill and Michael Carter, who reminds me of a quicker Singletary, but is probably destined for the same low end rb2 production. He’s fun to watch though.

Gainwell and Hawkins are also fun but it’s rare for backs of their size to be useful for fantasy purposes, I’d take a flier late on either only (same with Carter).

No one else really stands out.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Mjvb5 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:38 am

cantguardjake wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:02 pm
DJB wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:55 pm
jenkins.math wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:36 pm

I have a hard time evaluating Bama QB's (and other Bama players to a lesser extent) because they literally have the ideal scenario. Great scheme, great line, great run game, most talented roster, best coach, etc. It's almost impossible not to look good as their QB.
I think its pretty simple with Mac Jones. Don't waste your SF draft capital unless he falls to the 3rd round.

He looks like a career NFL backup at best.
I thought this at first but man, he throws serious dimes.

He navigates the pocket really well, which was my knock on Tua, and has a stronger arm (whilst not “big” seems adequate for NFL level). IMO he’s a much better prospect than Tua (the stats he put up in the same offensive system seem to back that up).

Whilst I’m not convinced of his fantasy ceiling (ala someone like Kirk Cousins), he looks like he should be a serviceable NFL starter.

Honestly, if I’m the Jags I’d trade back from 1 for a team drinking the Lawrence Koolaid and settle for one of Wilson, Fields or Jones - they are all equal to, if not better, than Lawrence.
Imo any time you can get a first round draft capital qb in an sf league anywhere in the 2nd. Take that to the bank. So long as they don't Josh Rosen Paxton lynch it, they're value will likely be at a first the following year and at a minimum will stay nuetral. Jones, haskins, lock, etc all had significant increases in the offseason due to the idea of any starting young qb has to be worth at least a first. If I can get mac at say 2.3-2.5 after the Batemans, Moore, and waddle types, I'm running that in to get whats a safe investment over a Marshall, Kenny gainwell or st brown type.

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby alewilliam789 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:24 pm

Tylan Wallace. Absolutely dominant collegiate player with incredible body control/ball-skills. Interested to see how he tests after his injury, but he's damn good. Should have all the advanced stats and will most likely be a 2nd-3rd round pick. Kind of reminds me of DJ Moore
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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby murphysxm » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:48 pm

Threads like this always make me realize how little college football I watch and how many prospects I am just not familiar with........
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby ThunderTung » Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:20 pm

murphysxm wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:48 pm Threads like this always make me realize how little college football I watch and how many prospects I am just not familiar with........
Take a look at Rhamondre Stevenson. I haven't really seen his name thrown out there. Really smooth runner, explosive off the ball, good power, but his top end speed isn't really anything to write home about.

Draft capital will play a really huge role on whether or not I spend a 2nd or 5th rounder on him
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QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
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FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby Frazier33 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:49 pm

QB - Wilson
RB - Sermon
WR - Bateman
TE - Freiermuth

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby esloan35 » Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:03 pm

murphysxm wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:48 pm Threads like this always make me realize how little college football I watch and how many prospects I am just not familiar with........
Jump in a Devy. I entered one this year and brought me back to college ball. I really enjoyed it, and watched a crap ton of athletes coming out this year. It was a Fantrax hosted league and pretty simple to use.

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby remedy29 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:17 am

Kadarius Toney looks like an absolute stud player. I hope he last to 2.03, but I think he will be gone by then.

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby Pullo Vision » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:46 pm

On the theory the good athletes declare early, the RB/WR/QB/TE early declares-

Tutu Atwell, WR, Louisville
Rashod Bateman, WR, Minnesota
Dyami Brown, WR, North Carolina
Ja’Marr Chase, WR, Louisiana State
Brennan Eagles, WR, Texas
Simi Fehoko, WR, Stanford
Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State
Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State
Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis
Javian Hawkins, RB, Louisville
Chuba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State
Jermar Jefferson, RB, Oregon State
Mac Jones, QB, Alabama
Brevin Jordan, TE, Miami
Brenden Knox, RB, Marshall
Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State
Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson
Hunter Long, TE, Boston College
Terrace Marshall, WR, Louisiana State
Isaiah McKoy, WR, Kent State
Davis Mills, QB, Stanford
Dax Milne, WR, Brigham Young
Elijah Moore, WR, Mississippi
Rondale Moore, WR, Purdue
Jaret Patterson, RB, Buffalo
Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida
Blake Proehl, WR, East Carolina
Anthony Schwartz, WR, Auburn
Stevie Scott, RB, Indiana
Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, Southern California
Sage Surratt, WR, Wake Forest
Tamorrion Terry, WR, Florida State
Tommy Tremble, TE, Notre Dame
Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama
Connor Wedington, WR, Stanford
Pro Wells, TE, TCU
Javonte Williams, RB, North Carolina
Pooka Williams, RB, Kansas
Seth Williams, WR, Auburn
Zach Wilson, QB, Brigham Young
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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby CL3VELANDBR0WNS » Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:55 pm

Kyle Pitts. I passed on Jefferson early last year because I thought I could get him later.... I won't make the same mistake with Pitts. Fully plan on making him the 4th overall pick in my main league. You don't let talent like that slip down the board and I don't really see who would rival him at #4. I have far more questions about Etienne, Waddle, and the field after the top 3. Kyle Pitts checks every box and looks like the best TE prospect we've ever seen.

I think Trey Lance will be another guy I'm high on if the hype continues to dwindle. He's a complete dart throw as a passer but at 2nd/3rd round value, you are potentially returning a player with Lamar Jackson level upside. I like that as a trade asset rather than deciding which coin flip WR to take a swing at.

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby murphysxm » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:03 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:46 pm On the theory the good athletes declare early, the RB/WR/QB/TE early declares-

Tutu Atwell, WR, Louisville
Rashod Bateman, WR, Minnesota
Dyami Brown, WR, North Carolina
Ja’Marr Chase, WR, Louisiana State
Brennan Eagles, WR, Texas
Simi Fehoko, WR, Stanford
Justin Fields, QB, Ohio State
Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State
Kenneth Gainwell, RB, Memphis
Javian Hawkins, RB, Louisville
Chuba Hubbard, RB, Oklahoma State
Jermar Jefferson, RB, Oregon State
Mac Jones, QB, Alabama
Brevin Jordan, TE, Miami
Brenden Knox, RB, Marshall
Trey Lance, QB, North Dakota State
Trevor Lawrence, QB, Clemson
Hunter Long, TE, Boston College
Terrace Marshall, WR, Louisiana State
Isaiah McKoy, WR, Kent State
Davis Mills, QB, Stanford
Dax Milne, WR, Brigham Young
Elijah Moore, WR, Mississippi
Rondale Moore, WR, Purdue
Jaret Patterson, RB, Buffalo
Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida
Blake Proehl, WR, East Carolina
Anthony Schwartz, WR, Auburn
Stevie Scott, RB, Indiana
Amon-Ra St. Brown, WR, Southern California
Sage Surratt, WR, Wake Forest
Tamorrion Terry, WR, Florida State
Tommy Tremble, TE, Notre Dame
Jaylen Waddle, WR, Alabama
Connor Wedington, WR, Stanford
Pro Wells, TE, TCU
Javonte Williams, RB, North Carolina
Pooka Williams, RB, Kansas
Seth Williams, WR, Auburn
Zach Wilson, QB, Brigham Young
nice list, thank you
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:36 pm

I get all the "TE isn't worth it in the 1st round" takes and agree with that line of thinking in general, but Pitts really does feel like a guy who will be an exception to the rule. I'm going to probably be taking him fairly high in a lot of leagues and can live with it if he doesn't pan out, but I would always be kicking myself if I couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger on him and then he does end up going on to be a truly elite fantasy TE.


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