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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby cantguardjake » Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:50 pm

alewilliam789 wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:24 pm Tylan Wallace. Absolutely dominant collegiate player with incredible body control/ball-skills. Interested to see how he tests after his injury, but he's damn good. Should have all the advanced stats and will most likely be a 2nd-3rd round pick. Kind of reminds me of DJ Moore
Reminds me of Josh Doctson.

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby Dynos » Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:55 am

I Have 1.05 in a superflex and it's really hard!!! i would like all 1st round of my league!!

If zach wilson slips to me, i already have a lot of Qbs but it would be hard to pass on him.
Same for Pitts
But if chase is there he's gonna be my choice!
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Team 1: Superflex, Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex WR/TE,1 Sflex

QB:P. Mahomes, R.Tannehill, J.Hurts
RB: E.Elliott,James Robinson, Chris Carson, L.Fournette, T.Etienne , Tony Pollard,hassan haskins,donta foreman, jaylen warren
WR: Justin Jefferson A.J Brown, M.Thomas, Marquise Brown, T.Lockett, skyy moore, romeo doubs, alec pierce Donovan Peoples-Jones, J.Palmer
TE: kyle pitts, juwan johnson,mckitty

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Team 2: Superflex, Start 1Qb, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex Wr/TE. 1 SFlex, 1 Flex RB/WR/TE
QB: J.Herbert, Z.Wilson, K.Cousins, K.Pickett,K.Mond
RB: J.Taylor, JK Dobbins, N.Harris, N.Hines, G.Edwards, James Cook, J.Ford, Dameon Pierce, P.Strong, D.Foreman (Jermaine Burton Devy)
WR: J.Chase,Garett Wilson , B.Aiyuk, C.Sutton, R.Bateman, G.Davis, M.Hardman,J.Palmer,
TE: D.Waller R.Tonyan, B.Jordan, Cameron Brate, Cade Otton, G.Everett

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby yinzername » Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:30 am

Team in your sig? I’d prob be thinking Etienne or Harris if either still there at 5...
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
'24: 1.1, 1.7, 2.1, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.10
‘25: 1 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds

2nd year DFF
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - A Mattison - K Miller - J Hill
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
picks: 1.09, 2.11

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby Dynos » Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:19 am

realmacaroni wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:30 am Team in your sig? I’d prob be thinking Etienne or Harris if either still there at 5...
Yeah no doubt both will be there.

I just edited my team, it was outdated!
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Team 1: Superflex, Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 flex WR/TE,1 Sflex

QB:P. Mahomes, R.Tannehill, J.Hurts
RB: E.Elliott,James Robinson, Chris Carson, L.Fournette, T.Etienne , Tony Pollard,hassan haskins,donta foreman, jaylen warren
WR: Justin Jefferson A.J Brown, M.Thomas, Marquise Brown, T.Lockett, skyy moore, romeo doubs, alec pierce Donovan Peoples-Jones, J.Palmer
TE: kyle pitts, juwan johnson,mckitty

2021 Champion!
Team 2: Superflex, Start 1Qb, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex Wr/TE. 1 SFlex, 1 Flex RB/WR/TE
QB: J.Herbert, Z.Wilson, K.Cousins, K.Pickett,K.Mond
RB: J.Taylor, JK Dobbins, N.Harris, N.Hines, G.Edwards, James Cook, J.Ford, Dameon Pierce, P.Strong, D.Foreman (Jermaine Burton Devy)
WR: J.Chase,Garett Wilson , B.Aiyuk, C.Sutton, R.Bateman, G.Davis, M.Hardman,J.Palmer,
TE: D.Waller R.Tonyan, B.Jordan, Cameron Brate, Cade Otton, G.Everett

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby yinzername » Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:42 am

Dynos wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:19 am
realmacaroni wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:30 am Team in your sig? I’d prob be thinking Etienne or Harris if either still there at 5...
Yeah no doubt both will be there.

I just edited my team, it was outdated!
Copy. Seems like a pretty stacked team. I’d go into it with a real open mind. Ya know, something something landing spots, something something best player available. That being said, here in January, my top 6 is looking like Lawrence Fields Harris Etienne Chase Pitts
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
Notable Assets in Rebuild
QB: Mahomes - Levis - Rudolph
RB: K Mitchell - J McLaughlin - C Rodriguez - Z Evans
WR: AJB - M Pittman- R Doubs - E Moore - Shaheed - C Tillman- A Iosivas
TE: MAndrews - Kraft
'24: 1.1, 1.7, 2.1, 2.6, 2.10, 3.1, 3.10
‘25: 1 1st, 2 2nds, 2 3rds

2nd year DFF
SF - PPR - 12t - start10
QB: TLaw - Purdy - Goff
RB: Chubb - D Montgomery - D Singletary - A Mattison - K Miller - J Hill
WR: CeeDee - Aiyuk - Rice - Godwin - J Reed - E Moore
TE: Kittle - Kincaid - Chig
picks: 1.09, 2.11

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby Wieber81 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:37 am

My two mid round guys are Elijah Moore and Sage Surratt.

Hopefully one of them falls to me at 2.11
My Dynasty Team:

QB Joe Burrow, Kirk Cousins, Jameis Winston
RB Saquon Barkley, Austin Ekeler, J.K Dobbins, Cam Akers, Alexander Mattison, Darrynton Evans
WR D.J. Moore, Deebo Samual, Jerry Jeudy, Michael Pittman, Jalen Reagor, Darnell Mooney,
TE George Kittle, Dallas Goedert, Irv Smith

2021 1st Round (#2 overall)
2021 1st Round (#5 overall)
2021 2nd Round (#23 overall)
2021 3rd Round (#29 overall)

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby Wieber81 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 11:41 am

CL3VELANDBR0WNS wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:55 pm Kyle Pitts. I passed on Jefferson early last year because I thought I could get him later.... I won't make the same mistake with Pitts. Fully plan on making him the 4th overall pick in my main league. You don't let talent like that slip down the board and I don't really see who would rival him at #4. I have far more questions about Etienne, Waddle, and the field after the top 3. Kyle Pitts checks every box and looks like the best TE prospect we've ever seen.

I think Trey Lance will be another guy I'm high on if the hype continues to dwindle. He's a complete dart throw as a passer but at 2nd/3rd round value, you are potentially returning a player with Lamar Jackson level upside. I like that as a trade asset rather than deciding which coin flip WR to take a swing at.
Would you go Pitts or Bateman?

I guess it depends on you situation. But lets say everything being equal
My Dynasty Team:

QB Joe Burrow, Kirk Cousins, Jameis Winston
RB Saquon Barkley, Austin Ekeler, J.K Dobbins, Cam Akers, Alexander Mattison, Darrynton Evans
WR D.J. Moore, Deebo Samual, Jerry Jeudy, Michael Pittman, Jalen Reagor, Darnell Mooney,
TE George Kittle, Dallas Goedert, Irv Smith

2021 1st Round (#2 overall)
2021 1st Round (#5 overall)
2021 2nd Round (#23 overall)
2021 3rd Round (#29 overall)

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:21 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:36 pm I get all the "TE isn't worth it in the 1st round" takes and agree with that line of thinking in general, but Pitts really does feel like a guy who will be an exception to the rule. I'm going to probably be taking him fairly high in a lot of leagues and can live with it if he doesn't pan out, but I would always be kicking myself if I couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger on him and then he does end up going on to be a truly elite fantasy TE.
Said the same thing about OJ Howard, Evan Engram, TJ Hockenson, Noah Fant...

I think Pitts is going to be a good pro, but people are impatient with TEs, and there will almost certainly be a window to buy him for cheaper than his rookie price before his breakout.

You could've got Kelce, Kittle, Ertz, Reed, Waller, Graham, Andrews, Eifert, Walker, Olsen, etc for half-price before they blew up regardless of their draft pedigree.

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:28 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:21 pm
bjd5211 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:36 pm I get all the "TE isn't worth it in the 1st round" takes and agree with that line of thinking in general, but Pitts really does feel like a guy who will be an exception to the rule. I'm going to probably be taking him fairly high in a lot of leagues and can live with it if he doesn't pan out, but I would always be kicking myself if I couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger on him and then he does end up going on to be a truly elite fantasy TE.
Said the same thing about OJ Howard, Evan Engram, TJ Hockenson, Noah Fant...

I think Pitts is going to be a good pro, but people are impatient with TEs, and there will almost certainly be a window to buy him for cheaper than his rookie price before his breakout.

You could've got Kelce, Kittle, Ertz, Reed, Waller, Graham, Andrews, Eifert, Walker, Olsen, etc for half-price before they blew up regardless of their draft pedigree.
No it's not, Pitts is FAR ahead of them as fantasy prospects for me.

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby ThunderTung » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:32 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:21 pm
bjd5211 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:36 pm I get all the "TE isn't worth it in the 1st round" takes and agree with that line of thinking in general, but Pitts really does feel like a guy who will be an exception to the rule. I'm going to probably be taking him fairly high in a lot of leagues and can live with it if he doesn't pan out, but I would always be kicking myself if I couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger on him and then he does end up going on to be a truly elite fantasy TE.
Said the same thing about OJ Howard, Evan Engram, TJ Hockenson, Noah Fant...

I think Pitts is going to be a good pro, but people are impatient with TEs, and there will almost certainly be a window to buy him for cheaper than his rookie price before his breakout.

You could've got Kelce, Kittle, Ertz, Reed, Waller, Graham, Andrews, Eifert, Walker, Olsen, etc for half-price before they blew up regardless of their draft pedigree.
I tend to agree, most if not all of the TE's you listed went in the 1st of rookie drafts. And every single one of them you could have gotten for cheaper than that after their first year. Hockenson and Fant are just starting to come into their own. Pitts expectations are so high right now, unless he goes off in his rookie year you'll probably be able to get him for a lot cheaper than you can in this rookie draft
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QB(1): Geno Smith
RB(2): ETN/Walker III
WR(2): Chase/Lamb
TE(1): Goedert
FLEX(2): Stevenson/Garrett Wilson
K: Mcpherson
DL(2): T. Walker/Vea
LB(2): D. Long/TJ Edwards
DB(2) Dugger/Moehrig
FLEX: Kenneth Murray
IR: J. Hicks/Milano/Marcus Jones
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RB: Zeke/D. Harris
WR: N. Brown/Demario Douglas/Bobby Trees/Parker/Tyler Scott
TE: Bellinger/Schultz
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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:42 pm

bjd5211 wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:28 pm
Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:21 pm
bjd5211 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:36 pm I get all the "TE isn't worth it in the 1st round" takes and agree with that line of thinking in general, but Pitts really does feel like a guy who will be an exception to the rule. I'm going to probably be taking him fairly high in a lot of leagues and can live with it if he doesn't pan out, but I would always be kicking myself if I couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger on him and then he does end up going on to be a truly elite fantasy TE.
Said the same thing about OJ Howard, Evan Engram, TJ Hockenson, Noah Fant...

I think Pitts is going to be a good pro, but people are impatient with TEs, and there will almost certainly be a window to buy him for cheaper than his rookie price before his breakout.

You could've got Kelce, Kittle, Ertz, Reed, Waller, Graham, Andrews, Eifert, Walker, Olsen, etc for half-price before they blew up regardless of their draft pedigree.
No it's not, Pitts is FAR ahead of them as fantasy prospects for me.
OJ Howard was considered a can't-miss TE for years and was more well-rounded than Pitts. Arguably the best blocking TE in the country in his collegiate career.

I love Pitts game too, but we've heard the "maybe this TE is worth a high rookie pick" argument plenty of times before. It's not that I think Pitts is going to stink; it's that I think you can get him for less than that initial price because people do not have patience with TEs.

Everyone wants the next Gronk, Kelce, Kittle, or whoever, but nobody wants to wait longer than a year or two for it.

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:50 pm

Blocking doesn't produce fantasy points, like I said in my opinion Pitts is pretty easily the best FANTASY TE prospect we have ever seen, which is why I will be targeting him fairly high in my FANTASY drafts. Yes maybe I can get him later when the rookie fever wears off, or maybe I can't, so I'll take him when I have the opportunity to do so and bet on the enormous upside which is what I target in all rookie drafts.

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby W90WBA » Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:41 pm

My guys are (not going for obvious big names here):

QB: Trask
RB: Patterson
WR: Terrace Marshall - not sure if he’s classed as a big name as he will go in the 1st round of rookie drafts I imagine, so alternatively I’d say Dyami Brown or Jealon Darden
TE: Hunter Long
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QB: R.Wilson / K.Cousins
RB: L.Bell / D.Henry / R.Freeman / J.K.Dobbins / J.Williams
WR: C.Kupp / N.Harry / M.Boykin / J.Hurd / E.St.Brown / K.J.Hill / M.Pittman
TE: H.Henry / N.Fant / I.Thomas / A.Okwuegbunam
PK: H.Butker

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QB: R.Wilson / D.Jones
RB: S.Barkley / M.Sanders / R.Armstead / D.Lewis / D.Dallas
WR: K.Allen / J.Landry / K.Harmon / T.McLaruin / H.Renfrow / K.Stills / D.Westbrook / P.Williams / B.Cooks / D.Mims / G.Davis / A.Gandy-Golden
TE: M.Andrews / R.Gronkowski / I.Thomas

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby remedy29 » Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:56 pm

ThunderTung wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:32 pm
Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:21 pm
bjd5211 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:36 pm I get all the "TE isn't worth it in the 1st round" takes and agree with that line of thinking in general, but Pitts really does feel like a guy who will be an exception to the rule. I'm going to probably be taking him fairly high in a lot of leagues and can live with it if he doesn't pan out, but I would always be kicking myself if I couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger on him and then he does end up going on to be a truly elite fantasy TE.
Said the same thing about OJ Howard, Evan Engram, TJ Hockenson, Noah Fant...

I think Pitts is going to be a good pro, but people are impatient with TEs, and there will almost certainly be a window to buy him for cheaper than his rookie price before his breakout.

You could've got Kelce, Kittle, Ertz, Reed, Waller, Graham, Andrews, Eifert, Walker, Olsen, etc for half-price before they blew up regardless of their draft pedigree.
I tend to agree, most if not all of the TE's you listed went in the 1st of rookie drafts. And every single one of them you could have gotten for cheaper than that after their first year. Hockenson and Fant are just starting to come into their own. Pitts expectations are so high right now, unless he goes off in his rookie year you'll probably be able to get him for a lot cheaper than you can in this rookie draft
Ok, let's call Pitts worth pre-draft, a mid 2021 1st. What type of discount do you expect to be able to buy him for and when? After year 1, year 2? Do you expect to to be able to get him for less than a 1st?

Alternatively, he could look like a stud early on and be untouchable.

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Re: Who is your "guy" for this upcoming rookie class?

Postby broncohead » Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:12 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:21 pm
bjd5211 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:36 pm I get all the "TE isn't worth it in the 1st round" takes and agree with that line of thinking in general, but Pitts really does feel like a guy who will be an exception to the rule. I'm going to probably be taking him fairly high in a lot of leagues and can live with it if he doesn't pan out, but I would always be kicking myself if I couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger on him and then he does end up going on to be a truly elite fantasy TE.
Said the same thing about OJ Howard, Evan Engram, TJ Hockenson, Noah Fant...

I think Pitts is going to be a good pro, but people are impatient with TEs, and there will almost certainly be a window to buy him for cheaper than his rookie price before his breakout.

You could've got Kelce, Kittle, Ertz, Reed, Waller, Graham, Andrews, Eifert, Walker, Olsen, etc for half-price before they blew up regardless of their draft pedigree.
Fant is hindered by his QB. Just wait until Denver gets a real QB, that offense will be good
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QB - Wentz, Tannehill, Mayfield, Jones, Alex Smith
RB - Chubb, Hunt, Swift, Akers, Henderson, Mostert, Mack, Bowden, Hill
WR - AJ Brown, DJ Moore, Gabriel Davis, Slayton, Hamler, Isabella
TE - Fant, Burton, Firkser, Keene, Okuegbunam
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