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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:45 pm

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I guess he had no confidence to show he can succeed in that situation as the teams WR1.
Lol, and what evidence do you have of this? He's hardly the only top prospect to sit out this year.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby remedy29 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:51 pm

And they will all be negatively impacted by their poor decisions. If Chase wanted to be the 1st WR taken, that is in great danger now. Not saying Chase won't be a first round pick...but he screams of a money driven guy and I'd prefer the football player that wants to compete.
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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby bjd5211 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:25 pm

Hate to break it to you, but they're all financially driven, doesn't mean they aren't competitors on the field. Why didn't Smith just enter the draft last year and compete against pros this year? Because he wanted to improve his draft position which improves how much he gets paid. Chase already proved everything he had to, and stood to lose far more than he could potentially gain by returning and putting his health at risk both on the field due to injury and off due to Covid. Why put your entire future at risk needlessly for the benefit of a University and Organization like LSU and the NCAA who exploit athletes for Millions and Billions of Dollars a year?

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:04 pm

remedy29 wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:51 pm
And they will all be negatively impacted by their poor decisions. If Chase wanted to be the 1st WR taken, that is in great danger now. Not saying Chase won't be a first round pick...but he screams of a money driven guy and I'd prefer the football player that wants to compete.
There are a lot of dumb reasons to not like a player, but this is up there. I can’t believe people still believe fairy tale stuff like this.

Chase sitting out and preserving his health instead of playing for free and risking injury was absolutely the right call. Docking him for that is inane, but please, keep doing it. More for me.
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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby broncohead » Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:34 pm

OhCruelestRanter wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:04 pm
remedy29 wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:51 pm
And they will all be negatively impacted by their poor decisions. If Chase wanted to be the 1st WR taken, that is in great danger now. Not saying Chase won't be a first round pick...but he screams of a money driven guy and I'd prefer the football player that wants to compete.
There are a lot of dumb reasons to not like a player, but this is up there. I can’t believe people still believe fairy tale stuff like this.

Chase sitting out and preserving his health instead of playing for free and risking injury was absolutely the right call. Docking him for that is inane, but please, keep doing it. More for me.
I see people with this take a lot. Mostly my friends who are avid college fb fans. Problem is, the school isn’t loyal to the players and neither is the NFL. They should def get the money while they can.
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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby remedy29 » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:16 pm

OhCruelestRanter wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:04 pm
remedy29 wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:51 pm
And they will all be negatively impacted by their poor decisions. If Chase wanted to be the 1st WR taken, that is in great danger now. Not saying Chase won't be a first round pick...but he screams of a money driven guy and I'd prefer the football player that wants to compete.
There are a lot of dumb reasons to not like a player, but this is up there. I can’t believe people still believe fairy tale stuff like this.

Chase sitting out and preserving his health instead of playing for free and risking injury was absolutely the right call. Docking him for that is inane, but please, keep doing it. More for me.
So who will be the first WR drafted?

Knocking Chase for choosing to sit out this year to "prepare for the draft" is not insane. He will be knock by the time an NFL team selects the first WR in this year's draft. And rightfully so.

Not saying Chase is not a good player, but everything these kids do is judged. Everything.

I'm strictly viewing this through the lens of who is the top WR in this year's draft. I own the 1.03 in a draft and I'm very interested in who should be ranked first.
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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Nanananananana » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:53 pm

Chase had the better season at 19 years old with Justin Jefferson, the all time leading rookie receiver on his team and Terrace Marshall. Davonte Smith did well with the 1st rounders around him least year but this year’s production was obviously Buoyed by the fact that Waddle got hurt and Metchie is not very good.

Chase averaged 21 yards per catch, Smith 16. Chase is 2 years younger and has an NFL body.

If you watch that national championship game some of those touchdowns that Smith scored were so poorly defended he was just waltzing in. I realize you can’t knock the production but college Football is soooooooooooo bad that is makes it nearly impossible to judge these guys against each other.

If Smith comes out last year he’d have been a second rounder, Chase would have been the WR1, what has actually changed did Smith become THAT much better in the past year or did his situation just become that much better.

All this said Smith will be a good NFL WR on the Emmanuel Sanders/ Calvin Ridley spectrum but Chase has the higher ceiling IMO.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Patsfan86 » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:53 am

Cant knock a guy at all for sitting out this season with the pandemic. We dont know if he had at risk family or whatever and stayed out because of that. Remember at the time that decision was made we were still pretty unsure if the virus spread during games or not. So really cant knock Chase for this. I have the 1.03 and this is going to be an extremely difficult decision on who to take. Im hoping one goes to a prime spot and the other a bad spot so my decision is made for me TBH. While chase does have the more NFL type body i think its silly for Smith to be discounted on BMI when thats an easily fixable stat.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:33 pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisolave_/ ... 0699618310

Ohio State WR Chris Olave announced he is staying for his Senior year.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:30 pm

Nanananananana wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:53 pm
Chase had the better season at 19 years old with Justin Jefferson, the all time leading rookie receiver on his team and Terrace Marshall. Davonte Smith did well with the 1st rounders around him least year but this year’s production was obviously Buoyed by the fact that Waddle got hurt and Metchie is not very good.

Chase averaged 21 yards per catch, Smith 16. Chase is 2 years younger and has an NFL body.

If you watch that national championship game some of those touchdowns that Smith scored were so poorly defended he was just waltzing in. I realize you can’t knock the production but college Football is soooooooooooo bad that is makes it nearly impossible to judge these guys against each other.

If Smith comes out last year he’d have been a second rounder, Chase would have been the WR1, what has actually changed did Smith become THAT much better in the past year or did his situation just become that much better.

All this said Smith will be a good NFL WR on the Emmanuel Sanders/ Calvin Ridley spectrum but Chase has the higher ceiling IMO.
Both.

Smith improved and he didn't have to compete with 3 really good WRs anymore for targets. Everyone knew where the ball was going and Smith still dominated the best conference in college football. Smith had an all-time great college WR season.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:35 pm

remedy29 wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:16 pm
OhCruelestRanter wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:04 pm
remedy29 wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:51 pm
And they will all be negatively impacted by their poor decisions. If Chase wanted to be the 1st WR taken, that is in great danger now. Not saying Chase won't be a first round pick...but he screams of a money driven guy and I'd prefer the football player that wants to compete.
There are a lot of dumb reasons to not like a player, but this is up there. I can’t believe people still believe fairy tale stuff like this.

Chase sitting out and preserving his health instead of playing for free and risking injury was absolutely the right call. Docking him for that is inane, but please, keep doing it. More for me.
So who will be the first WR drafted?

Knocking Chase for choosing to sit out this year to "prepare for the draft" is not insane. He will be knock by the time an NFL team selects the first WR in this year's draft. And rightfully so.

Not saying Chase is not a good player, but everything these kids do is judged. Everything.

I'm strictly viewing this through the lens of who is the top WR in this year's draft. I own the 1.03 in a draft and I'm very interested in who should be ranked first.
I don't think a team is going to knock him for sitting out a season during a pandemic. That doesn't make any sense, since we're talking about a virus that you can give to your family pretty easily.

Chase was in a perfect situation. There was nothing he could've done this year to improve his stock, but he had everything to lose with the pandemic, possible injuries, and playing with a worse QB.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby jenkins.math » Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:09 pm

Cameron Giles wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:35 pm
remedy29 wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:16 pm
OhCruelestRanter wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:04 pm


There are a lot of dumb reasons to not like a player, but this is up there. I can’t believe people still believe fairy tale stuff like this.

Chase sitting out and preserving his health instead of playing for free and risking injury was absolutely the right call. Docking him for that is inane, but please, keep doing it. More for me.
So who will be the first WR drafted?

Knocking Chase for choosing to sit out this year to "prepare for the draft" is not insane. He will be knock by the time an NFL team selects the first WR in this year's draft. And rightfully so.

Not saying Chase is not a good player, but everything these kids do is judged. Everything.

I'm strictly viewing this through the lens of who is the top WR in this year's draft. I own the 1.03 in a draft and I'm very interested in who should be ranked first.

I don't think a team is going to knock him for sitting out a season during a pandemic. That doesn't make any sense, since we're talking about a virus that you can give to your family pretty easily.


Chase was in a perfect situation. There was nothing he could've done this year to improve his stock, but he had everything to lose with the pandemic, possible injuries, and playing with a worse QB.
I don't think a team will knock him publicly, but behind closed doors I bet there are some that will question his commitment to football and teammates. Not saying that they should or shouldn't, but these organizations want guys that only care about ball. Opting out doesn't give off that vibe and there are some old schools folks in any organization that will view it as quitting on your teammates. Anybody that opted out better be in peak physical condition or they're going to get some very loud work ethic concerns.
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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby AussieMate » Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:33 pm

jenkins.math wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:09 pm
Cameron Giles wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:35 pm
remedy29 wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:16 pm


So who will be the first WR drafted?

Knocking Chase for choosing to sit out this year to "prepare for the draft" is not insane. He will be knock by the time an NFL team selects the first WR in this year's draft. And rightfully so.

Not saying Chase is not a good player, but everything these kids do is judged. Everything.

I'm strictly viewing this through the lens of who is the top WR in this year's draft. I own the 1.03 in a draft and I'm very interested in who should be ranked first.

I don't think a team is going to knock him for sitting out a season during a pandemic. That doesn't make any sense, since we're talking about a virus that you can give to your family pretty easily.


Chase was in a perfect situation. There was nothing he could've done this year to improve his stock, but he had everything to lose with the pandemic, possible injuries, and playing with a worse QB.
I don't think a team will knock him publicly, but behind closed doors I bet there are some that will question his commitment to football and teammates. Not saying that they should or shouldn't, but these organizations want guys that only care about ball. Opting out doesn't give off that vibe and there are some old schools folks in any organization that will view it as quitting on your teammates. Anybody that opted out better be in peak physical condition or they're going to get some very loud work ethic concerns.
If Chase and others who opted out turn up in great shape I don't see many people knocking them for the opt-out. If they come in a bit under done then definitely.
I would love it if Chase can come back with even more speed etc, although he is a top athlete as 90% of college players are, he wasn't exactly a stud athlete if you know what I mean. I'm hoping he has actually used the year off to do some serious training.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Krypto_King » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:59 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:33 pm
https://mobile.twitter.com/chrisolave_/ ... 0699618310

Ohio State WR Chris Olave announced he is staying for his Senior year.
*three 5-star WR recruits enter transfer portal*

This does not appear like a good decision for his playing career

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby murphysxm » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:57 am

jenkins.math wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 6:09 pm

I don't think a team will knock him publicly, but behind closed doors I bet there are some that will question his commitment to football and teammates. Not saying that they should or shouldn't, but these organizations want guys that only care about ball. Opting out doesn't give off that vibe and there are some old schools folks in any organization that will view it as quitting on your teammates. Anybody that opted out better be in peak physical condition or they're going to get some very loud work ethic concerns.
Once they watch tape and see his "combine" numbers (however that is going to work) they will see a player that can be a difference maker. It will be a non factor he opted out.


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