Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:01 am

alewilliam789 wrote:
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TE usually isn't something to get too excited about, but man Kyle Pitts could be special.
I remember reading Freiermuth as TE1 and watching Pitts I just didn’t understand it. Like I said if he isn’t your TE 1 in 2021 you are doing it wrong
Pitts definitely the TE1 for fantasy, but Freiermuth very much in play for TE1 in the NFL Draft. Pitts is a pure receiver, Freiermuth is a more prototypical TE who is both an excellent receiver and quality run blocker for the position.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

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bjd5211 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:01 am
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:32 am
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:44 am
TE usually isn't something to get too excited about, but man Kyle Pitts could be special.
I remember reading Freiermuth as TE1 and watching Pitts I just didn’t understand it. Like I said if he isn’t your TE 1 in 2021 you are doing it wrong
Pitts definitely the TE1 for fantasy, but Freiermuth very much in play for TE1 in the NFL Draft. Pitts is a pure receiver, Freiermuth is a more prototypical TE who is both an excellent receiver and quality run blocker for the position.
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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby alewilliam789 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:33 am

bjd5211 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:01 am
alewilliam789 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:32 am
bjd5211 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:44 am
TE usually isn't something to get too excited about, but man Kyle Pitts could be special.
I remember reading Freiermuth as TE1 and watching Pitts I just didn’t understand it. Like I said if he isn’t your TE 1 in 2021 you are doing it wrong
Pitts definitely the TE1 for fantasy, but Freiermuth very much in play for TE1 in the NFL Draft. Pitts is a pure receiver, Freiermuth is a more prototypical TE who is both an excellent receiver and quality run blocker for the position.
Don’t disagree with you, but he’s not a terrible blocker. Obviously not known to be a great blocker, but I’d be surprised if they asked him to do it much at the next level. Even Hockenson who is a good blocker isn’t being used as much to block at the next level (could just be the Lions tho). When you have someone like Pitts who is an absolute matchup nightmare at any level (6’6” and a plus athlete) with good ball skills and an ability to run some nice routes it’s difficult to me how you can justify taking him over a player like Freiermuth. Is Freiermuth a safer selection? Maybe, but that’s how you select Mitch Trubisky over Pat Mahomes right there.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:15 pm

Freiermuth is no slouch as a receiver or athlete himself though, he's not a blocking TE who can catch, he's a receiving TE who can block. Both are excellent players and legitimate 1st round prospects and either one could be the first TE taken.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:06 pm

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so he's good because he was a 5 star and that's that. was he a 5 star? What do you like about him?
Watch the Auburn game from last year.
And the Mizzou game last week. Tomorrow vs Texas A&M probably worth checking out too.

Waddle probably my #2 WR behind Chase now, dude is so explosive and dangerous with the ball in his hands.
87 yard TD from Waddle. Big play machine.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby mgscott » Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:13 pm

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Lawrence and Fields will both be playing in New York next year.
If the Giants look at this team and think Jones is the problem they're dumber than the team that hired Matt Patricia

Darnold isn't the problem either but after three years a fresh start makes sense for both parties
Jones and Darnold may not be the only problem, but they aren't the solution either. If you pass on Fields or Lawrence because you have Jones or Darnold, you'll still be picking at the top to middle/top of the draft for years to come. Don't pass up a chance for greatness at QB for a peak of mediocrity. As a Vikings fan, I would love for them to lose this year and get a chance at one of them to replace Cousins. Cousins is above average, but not elite and not taking them anywhere.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:12 pm

Waddle: 5/142/1
Metchie: 5/181/2
Smith: 6/63/1

vs. A&M

First time we saw Metchie have a big game. Could be a prospect to look out for in 2022.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:31 pm

Cameron Giles wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:12 pm
Waddle: 5/142/1
Metchie: 5/181/2
Smith: 6/63/1

vs. A&M

First time we saw Metchie have a big game. Could be a prospect to look out for in 2022.
Alabama WRs gonna have less than perfect stat totals again because there are so many of them once again.
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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:34 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:31 pm
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:12 pm
Waddle: 5/142/1
Metchie: 5/181/2
Smith: 6/63/1

vs. A&M

First time we saw Metchie have a big game. Could be a prospect to look out for in 2022.
Alabama WRs gonna have less than perfect stat totals again because there are so many of them.
Yep, just one of those teams where you can't look strictly at advanced metrics for validation. If any of these players played on some weak team like Wake Forest, they'd easily dominate targets and yardage. They share targets and blow teams out and it just dilutes everything.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby alewilliam789 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:54 pm

Cameron Giles wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:34 pm
bjd5211 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:31 pm
Cameron Giles wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:12 pm
Waddle: 5/142/1
Metchie: 5/181/2
Smith: 6/63/1

vs. A&M

First time we saw Metchie have a big game. Could be a prospect to look out for in 2022.
Alabama WRs gonna have less than perfect stat totals again because there are so many of them.
Yep, just one of those teams where you can't look strictly at advanced metrics for validation. If any of these players played on some weak team like Wake Forest, they'd easily dominate targets and yardage. They share targets and blow teams out and it just dilutes everything.
Well based on his past few games Waddle may break that. He’s already moved up to my WR 2 above Bateman, but that could change once I watch more of the Big 10 this year

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:22 pm

alewilliam789 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:54 pm
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:34 pm
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:31 pm


Alabama WRs gonna have less than perfect stat totals again because there are so many of them.
Yep, just one of those teams where you can't look strictly at advanced metrics for validation. If any of these players played on some weak team like Wake Forest, they'd easily dominate targets and yardage. They share targets and blow teams out and it just dilutes everything.
Well based on his past few games Waddle may break that. He’s already moved up to my WR 2 above Bateman, but that could change once I watch more of the Big 10 this year
Right now, I still have Chase and Moore for sure ahead of him.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby alewilliam789 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:40 pm

Cameron Giles wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:22 pm
alewilliam789 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:54 pm
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Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:34 pm


Yep, just one of those teams where you can't look strictly at advanced metrics for validation. If any of these players played on some weak team like Wake Forest, they'd easily dominate targets and yardage. They share targets and blow teams out and it just dilutes everything.
Well based on his past few games Waddle may break that. He’s already moved up to my WR 2 above Bateman, but that could change once I watch more of the Big 10 this year
Right now, I still have Chase and Moore for sure ahead of him.
I’m still fleshing out my rankings, but Moore is below Bateman for me for now until I see he’s regained his jittery perfection again. I have significant worries about his size, but his skills are undeniable. Unless you press him at the line, there isn’t a corner alive that can keep up with him with his ridiculous quickness/speed combination. I’ll be interested to see how they utilize him as well

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:47 pm

1 Chase

2 Waddle
3 Batemon
4 Moore

For me right now, but it's early.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby alewilliam789 » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:17 pm

bjd5211 wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:47 pm
1 Chase

2 Waddle
3 Batemon
4 Moore

For me right now, but it's early.
Yes this is my ranking for now as well. I’m an analytics guy tho and Waddle will neither have a good BA and may or may not have a good DR. The top 3 (Chase, Bateman, Moore) looked good analytically whether they played this season or not. Like me some Tylan Wallace as well, but haven’t been able to tune into much of his games.

Either way the Rookie 1st round of this class will have some solid talent.

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Re: Way too Early 2021 Draft Thread

Postby smbkrypt24 » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:09 am

This draft class is looking a lot better just after a few games.
Chase not playing, but a stud last year.
Etienne looking great in passing game after already looking good as runner
Waddle and Smith balling out.
Pitts running away as nightmare mismatch at TE.
Lawrence, Fields, and Lance all looking good at QB.

This doesn't even go into some other lesser names that have performed, just those believed to be at top of class before start of season.
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QB: Prescott, Herbert, Roethlisberger
RB: Barkley, Elliott, Cook, Mack, Guice
WR: T. Hill, AJB, Di. Johnson, AB, Lazard, E. Sanders, Guyton
TE: Andrews, Cook, Gronk
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TE: Ebron, Everett, Trautman
Kicker: Blankenship
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