New Heights of Rookie Fever
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In regards to OBJ, he still up 1,000 yds on a new team and offense in a year when Mayfield hit a sophomore slump, for the Browns (adding additional benefit of the doubt).
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Re: New Heights of Rookie Fever
Valuations are higher than most years but the talent justifies it to a degree. The RB talent available in this draft vs ‘19 and ‘21 is probably what’s causing it.
If you don’t have the picks at this point, I think best strategy is wait until October/November when WRs haven’t done much and RBs are probably still in mild time shares. Now is not the time to buy picks. I’d like to get Lamb at some point but feel like there will be a buying window after a couple 30-40 yard games to start his career (I hope lol)
If you don’t have the picks at this point, I think best strategy is wait until October/November when WRs haven’t done much and RBs are probably still in mild time shares. Now is not the time to buy picks. I’d like to get Lamb at some point but feel like there will be a buying window after a couple 30-40 yard games to start his career (I hope lol)
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Re: New Heights of Rookie Fever
Ahh, I see here. Yea, you came hard but that's not enough for me to move off these RBs. This is more my Dynasty philosophy, but trading an older elite WR for an elite RB prospect.. is no bueno. I realize that I might be in the minority here, but an elite WR is the most overrated asset in Dynasty. Delta between an RB1/RB2/RB3 is significantly higher than WR1/WR2/WR3. When you remove youth from the the equation, it just doesn't make sense when the only thing WR's have on RBs is theoretical longevity.dynastyninja wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 8:51 amI've been trying to turn a WR into an RB, which has proved impossible. Most of these trades I'd never do in a vacuum, but my roster construction is such that I'd like to shift some production from WR to RB. Some notable offers I've made:TimeWillTell wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 8:15 amI'm legitimately curious to know what the cost is in your league. I have a bunch of picks but our draft isn't until July 1 and our league hasn't really started sending offers yet.dynastyninja wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 7:52 am
It's a darn good class. I'd love to get in, but not with what it costs.
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I see a lot of people saying this, buy rookies when they aren’t doing anything. I’m in a few leagues and no one sells a high drafted rookie after a few games lolPortsmouth Spartans wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:43 pm Valuations are higher than most years but the talent justifies it to a degree. The RB talent available in this draft vs ‘19 and ‘21 is probably what’s causing it.
If you don’t have the picks at this point, I think best strategy is wait until October/November when WRs haven’t done much and RBs are probably still in mild time shares. Now is not the time to buy picks. I’d like to get Lamb at some point but feel like there will be a buying window after a couple 30-40 yard games to start his career (I hope lol)
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Re: New Heights of Rookie Fever
I think with Lamb going to Dallas, the owner is going to be pretty patient with Cooper and Gallup ahead of him to start the year.Portsmouth Spartans wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:43 pm Valuations are higher than most years but the talent justifies it to a degree. The RB talent available in this draft vs ‘19 and ‘21 is probably what’s causing it.
If you don’t have the picks at this point, I think best strategy is wait until October/November when WRs haven’t done much and RBs are probably still in mild time shares. Now is not the time to buy picks. I’d like to get Lamb at some point but feel like there will be a buying window after a couple 30-40 yard games to start his career (I hope lol)
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Re: New Heights of Rookie Fever
They're not going to go dirt cheap, but some impatient owners do sell low; I saw quite a few Miles Sanders trades for a late 1st + when he was struggling earlier in the season.joeya2001 wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 2:10 pmI see a lot of people saying this, buy rookies when they aren’t doing anything. I’m in a few leagues and no one sells a high drafted rookie after a few games lolPortsmouth Spartans wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:43 pm Valuations are higher than most years but the talent justifies it to a degree. The RB talent available in this draft vs ‘19 and ‘21 is probably what’s causing it.
If you don’t have the picks at this point, I think best strategy is wait until October/November when WRs haven’t done much and RBs are probably still in mild time shares. Now is not the time to buy picks. I’d like to get Lamb at some point but feel like there will be a buying window after a couple 30-40 yard games to start his career (I hope lol)
Good luck grabbing him for that price tag now
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Re: New Heights of Rookie Fever
I think deep down most seasoned players realize the hit rate for rookies is around 50%. They just think they are in the positive 50%,with their picks and valuations. Not that having confidence in your projections is a bad thing.
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Re: New Heights of Rookie Fever
heh, Shenault is probably a target for me but I don't see how anyone could have confidence in predicting what he will be in the NFL. Any of the lesser RBs in "good situations" could be Jordan Howard or they could be nothing. In 1 QB, anything 1.07-late 2nd is probably overrated and I am shopping all these picks for "young veterans." The Mark Andrews deal is a great example.
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Fully agree that rookie fever is a bit crazy this year.
I've tried to sell kittle in 2 different te premium leagues where I have depth at TE (one sf one 1qb) and I was offered the 1.11 straight up and the 1.09 straight up (twice) by three different owners. Again, TE premium. Ludicrous.
In another league i saw the 2.11 go for a 2022 first. Admittedly there were a few guys available that probably should have gone a couple of picks earlier, and I know the first is 2 years out and all, but I feel like that's a lot more value than I've seen a pick that late go for in the past.
I've tried to sell kittle in 2 different te premium leagues where I have depth at TE (one sf one 1qb) and I was offered the 1.11 straight up and the 1.09 straight up (twice) by three different owners. Again, TE premium. Ludicrous.
In another league i saw the 2.11 go for a 2022 first. Admittedly there were a few guys available that probably should have gone a couple of picks earlier, and I know the first is 2 years out and all, but I feel like that's a lot more value than I've seen a pick that late go for in the past.
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Re: New Heights of Rookie Fever
To me, the time to acquire these rookies (if you don't have the picks already), is in season, or next year, when they disappoint. Uphill battle with reduced off season activities, the time to buy isn't now IMO.
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Re: New Heights of Rookie Fever
Depends on the situation and player. Last year AJB could’ve been had up until late November due to his bad landing spot. Hell, I was fishing for offers for my Sanders after his disappointing September. Im not saying guys like Taylor or CEH will be available but I could see contenders getting impatient with Lamb, Jeudy, Swift if they’re in win-now mode. I don’t think they’ll be cheap,but there will be rookies available to trade for at a lower price than their draft slot right now.joeya2001 wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 2:10 pmI see a lot of people saying this, buy rookies when they aren’t doing anything. I’m in a few leagues and no one sells a high drafted rookie after a few games lolPortsmouth Spartans wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:43 pm Valuations are higher than most years but the talent justifies it to a degree. The RB talent available in this draft vs ‘19 and ‘21 is probably what’s causing it.
If you don’t have the picks at this point, I think best strategy is wait until October/November when WRs haven’t done much and RBs are probably still in mild time shares. Now is not the time to buy picks. I’d like to get Lamb at some point but feel like there will be a buying window after a couple 30-40 yard games to start his career (I hope lol)
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RB: Mixon ($5 1yr+extension), Chubb ($5 2yr+extension), Sanders ($5 3yr+ extension), Michel ($5 1yr+extension), Guice ($5 2yr+extension)
WR: Godwin ($1 2yr+extension), AJ Brown ($3 3yr+extension), Chark ($8 3yr+extension), M. Brown ($3 3y +extension), Isabella ($3 3yr+ extension)
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Re: New Heights of Rookie Fever
You would be surprised. Some people are very reactionary and will sell if immediate production isn't happening.joeya2001 wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 2:10 pmI see a lot of people saying this, buy rookies when they aren’t doing anything. I’m in a few leagues and no one sells a high drafted rookie after a few games lolPortsmouth Spartans wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:43 pm Valuations are higher than most years but the talent justifies it to a degree. The RB talent available in this draft vs ‘19 and ‘21 is probably what’s causing it.
If you don’t have the picks at this point, I think best strategy is wait until October/November when WRs haven’t done much and RBs are probably still in mild time shares. Now is not the time to buy picks. I’d like to get Lamb at some point but feel like there will be a buying window after a couple 30-40 yard games to start his career (I hope lol)
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Jeudy’s situation couldn’t be much better for early production. Shurmur feeds the slot and Jeudy is probably the best receiver he’s had for that role.Portsmouth Spartans wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 4:15 amDepends on the situation and player. Last year AJB could’ve been had up until late November due to his bad landing spot. Hell, I was fishing for offers for my Sanders after his disappointing September. Im not saying guys like Taylor or CEH will be available but I could see contenders getting impatient with Lamb, Jeudy, Swift if they’re in win-now mode. I don’t think they’ll be cheap,but there will be rookies available to trade for at a lower price than their draft slot right now.joeya2001 wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 2:10 pmI see a lot of people saying this, buy rookies when they aren’t doing anything. I’m in a few leagues and no one sells a high drafted rookie after a few games lolPortsmouth Spartans wrote: ↑Mon May 04, 2020 1:43 pm Valuations are higher than most years but the talent justifies it to a degree. The RB talent available in this draft vs ‘19 and ‘21 is probably what’s causing it.
If you don’t have the picks at this point, I think best strategy is wait until October/November when WRs haven’t done much and RBs are probably still in mild time shares. Now is not the time to buy picks. I’d like to get Lamb at some point but feel like there will be a buying window after a couple 30-40 yard games to start his career (I hope lol)
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Re: New Heights of Rookie Fever
Except his QB situation isn't ideal, and they probably plan on running a lot, too.ericanadian wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 5:24 amJeudy’s situation couldn’t be much better for early production. Shurmur feeds the slot and Jeudy is probably the best receiver he’s had for that role.Portsmouth Spartans wrote: ↑Tue May 05, 2020 4:15 amDepends on the situation and player. Last year AJB could’ve been had up until late November due to his bad landing spot. Hell, I was fishing for offers for my Sanders after his disappointing September. Im not saying guys like Taylor or CEH will be available but I could see contenders getting impatient with Lamb, Jeudy, Swift if they’re in win-now mode. I don’t think they’ll be cheap,but there will be rookies available to trade for at a lower price than their draft slot right now.
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Is that the standard were holding the once top start up dynast WR too, I mean Robert woods has been quietly out producing him last 2 seasons.
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