2020 Plant your flag

[straightcashhomie831]

honestly i think Brees can get back in good graces if he wants too...people are hurt because like you said "Brees is a good guy" and he's well respected by most BLACK athletes/fans. Brees is a guy that i can see changing this...he really is a leader. It's going to take a lot of action and Brees can do it. I think Brees is such a good guy MT wanted to give him a pass on it EVEN though MT was very hurt just like alot of people.

[Csl312]

I'd be concerned about the oline (which is mostly black) letting Brees get creamed. That would be bad for basically all Saints fantasy production.

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[StripesOfKC]

I am beginning to doubt that. It's going to get worse IMO. I think Brees has burned some bridges with his teammates. They may hug it out, but I have my doubts they'll ever see him the same way.

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bridges definitely burned...even E Sanders who is new to the team called Brees Ignorant. Kamara said something too. Looks like Jared Cook will lead them in recs this year! Im planting my flag here now!

Jared Cook 110 recs 1200 yds 10 tds!

Brees should have retired. He's destroyed the reputation of a 20 year career. He'll be viewed as a great QB, but his reputation is now tarnished. Really too bad. The 4 minute version really hits home. He's crying through most of it. Too bad. Brees is a good guy, but he's not going to be viewed the same way by a lot of people, now.

Yeah just like Brady’s reputation was ruined by solid rumors of which candidate he supported in 2016. Oh wait

Brees said he disagreed with some methods of protest.

I don’t completely agree (or completely disagree) and he certainly chose the wrong time to say it IMO but this will not even come close to ruining his career or legacy regardless of how it blows up, especially after he apologizes publically in a day and talks it out with teammates

It’s not like no one has ever worked with people who don’t 100% agree politcally with themselves

[FantasyFreak]

bridges definitely burned...even E Sanders who is new to the team called Brees Ignorant. Kamara said something too. Looks like Jared Cook will lead them in recs this year! Im planting my flag here now!

Jared Cook 110 recs 1200 yds 10 tds!

Brees should have retired. He's destroyed the reputation of a 20 year career. He'll be viewed as a great QB, but his reputation is now tarnished. Really too bad. The 4 minute version really hits home. He's crying through most of it. Too bad. Brees is a good guy, but he's not going to be viewed the same way by a lot of people, now.

Yeah just like Brady’s reputation was ruined by solid rumors of which candidate he supported in 2016. Oh wait

Brees said he disagreed with some methods of protest.

I don’t completely agree (or completely disagree) and he certainly chose the wrong time to say it IMO but this will not even come close to ruining his career or legacy regardless of how it blows up, especially after he apologizes publically in a day and talks it out with teammates

It’s not like no one has ever worked with people who don’t 100% agree politcally with themselves

This isn't the same thing. He's burned some bridges here. I'm not saying his rep is destroyed, but it's never going to be what it was. They will talk it out enough to play football together, I'd assume, but it's just not going to be the same. This one cut deep. As you said, the timing was the worst, but that's why they are so upset. Brees knows what's going on, and still said that, and to a lot of players, he took a stance that they feel was not needed to be taken in the here and now.

[Kurt G.O.A.T.]

This is so stupid. Some poor black guy gets killed by the police and nfl players are arguing about whether to stand or kneel during a song. America is one screwed up country.

[Friction]

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Yikes. That first practice is gonna be awkward...sounds like Brees has a strong opinion on the subject, but I don't see MT backing down on his stance. Could see it having a minor effect even if solved, but potentially more if it's left to fester and build.

Ideally, they'd chat on the phone today and quash it between one another, but if they both have too much pride, personality conflict molehills can turn into mountains fairly easily.

One of the first things that came my mind (besides the obvious) is that MT went on social media to air his feelings, as opposed to at least attempting to call/text Brees, hash it out man to man. Maybe that is on Brees moreso than MT. Might mean nothing, but maybe their bond is not there, because it sure is on thd field. For fantasy purposes, it in no way is encouraging for this coming season. Professionals have managed to get through worse situations with teammates and do have a job to do. Lucky for us, we get to hear about it from every media outlet for the next 100 days!

[ericanadian]

I’m not sure what you guys are talking about with Brees not throwing to MT or Sanders or whatnot and the O-Line letting Brees get creamed. Do you think Roethlisberger’s teammates don’t know what a trash person he is? These people are professionals and while it may impact their camaraderie, I don’t think it’s going to be a massive impact on any one players stats, even if they don’t work things out in the end.

[mild]

One of the first things that came my mind (besides the obvious) is that MT went on social media to air his feelings, as opposed to at least attempting to call/text Brees, hash it out man to man. Maybe that is on Brees moreso than MT. Might mean nothing, but maybe their bond is not there, because it sure is on thd field.

Lets be fair to MT and the countless other NFL players who have since called Brees out - none of them went on a talkshow to express an extremely divisive/tone-deaf opinion on protesting during the most charged period of protests since the 1992 Rodney King race riots.

He has had literal years to understand from his fellow players that Kaep kneeling is not and was never about the flag, nor the troops. It's about non-violent protest of police brutality, which is still going on. Now is not the time for a white man to attempt to define his view of that distinction on a national platform, let alone his personal one. Now is a time for listening. If other players thought they could change his mind on this, then perhaps they would have reached out, man to man.

But they didn't go to the media first - that was Drew. They went to their social media, their platforms - to respond, and to educate.

I'll leave that last part to his teammate, Malcolm Jenkins. If you want to understand, you just have to listen.
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[qazxswedcvfrtgbnhyuj]

He's just apologized and said he will need to "say less, listen more" (or something along those lines).

I'll plant my flag and say this won't be an issue come season. At all.

[Ruggenater]

Planting my flag: IF there are no fans in stadiums, we’ll see a decline in controversial officiating calls.

[ascherb]

People ALWAYS massively overvalue how much teammates have to like each other to produce on the field.

LOL at the idea of Saints linemen just letting pass rushers by them because of this.

[Jigga94]

He's just apologized and said he will need to "say less, listen more" (or something along those lines).

I'll plant my flag and say this won't be an issue come season. At all.

x2 gotta love the reactionary posts though

[joeya2001]

He's just apologized and said he will need to "say less, listen more" (or something along those lines).

I'll plant my flag and say this won't be an issue come season. At all.

x2 gotta love the reactionary posts though

yes you have to love it

but yeah...

[Patsfan86]

I'd be concerned about the oline (which is mostly black) letting Brees get creamed. That would be bad for basically all Saints fantasy production.

Edit to fix auto correct.

Ive seen a lot of ridiculous comments on this forum. Ones about Damien Williams being THE RB1, we had a constant troll on here all of last summer named Turco, etc etc. This one is right up there with them. Congratulations. These guys are professionals who want to get paid, they are not going to intentionally give up a sack over this. I in fact have hope that this will lead to a discussion and brees will learn some things, if he can then we all can.

[Csl312]

Yeah I get it that sounds crazy. But I didn't mean they are just going to stand up. It's not like there have ever been rumors about linemen upset with a QB letting a few plays break down.

Look I think people aren't putting this into proper perspective. This isn't just a political issue or something. These guys are looking at this as about human lives. I don't think it's completely out of the question that they put that cause above winning for a game or two.

That said most likely Brees apology will smooth things over for most players and they will move on.