Is swifts game like Kamara

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Is swifts game like Kamara

Postby Htowndds » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:14 am

Kamara entered a committee in new orleans his rookie year. We assume a committee situation in Detroit. Swift can play in the slot much like Kamara. Stafford throws alot to running backs in his history. Maybe this landing spot isn't as bad as the pundents think. Would like to hear the groups thought.

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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara

Postby dynastyninja » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:47 am

The landing spot hasn't changed my opinion of Swift, but I do think he has "dropped" in rankings because of it. To me, if I have an early-mid or mid-pick I'd be thrilled at the chance to draft him now.

I would take Taylor and CEH before him, but that doesn't mean I'm extremely confident they'll be more valuable than him. I think they will, but would not be surprised if it's the other way around.

As far as Kamara, I don't really know? We chase the next Kamara like we chase the next Mahomes like we chased the next Antonio Brown like we chased the next Adrian Peterson. Some guys are just unique. Not really worth comping people to them in most cases.

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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:00 pm

Seeing as it's the Lions and Fatricia is just trying to copy Bellicheck (without the skill)

Swift is gonna be a hyped up prime Theo Riddick I fear
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara

Postby TimeWillTell » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:10 pm

Patricia may not (likely won't?) be there past this season if I had to guess. So there's that... If he leaves could be a positive or negative for Swift. They did spend a lot of capital on him though so idk. I'll draft him at 1.04 if I don't get an offer that blows me away.
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara

Postby jenkins.math » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:22 pm

Kamara benefits greatly from Sean Payton and Drew Brees.

The better comp in this draft class to Kamara would be CEH due to situation and ability to run routes.
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara

Postby Htowndds » Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:07 pm

So would it be worth trading up in the draft from 1.5 to1.3 to have your choice of Taylor or dobbins. Is swift that much better in the groups opinion. I have 1.1 and will be taking CEH.

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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara

Postby Orenthal Shames » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:08 pm

Kamara far exceeded all expectation. I expected him to be a ppr RB2 initially. There was evidence to point to it:

NO threw more to RBs than anyone else by a wide margin and Ingram (and especially AP) weren't major factors in the pass game.

I honestly have to do more digging on the Detroit landing spot, but I would take Swift at 1.05.
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:10 pm

Htowndds wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:07 pm
So would it be worth trading up in the draft from 1.5 to1.3 to have your choice of Taylor or dobbins. Is swift that much better in the groups opinion. I have 1.1 and will be taking CEH.
Depends what you would have to give up and your team build and who would be left at 1.5. if Swift is there, that seems like good value
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara

Postby Johnny Canuck » Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:16 pm

Htowndds wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:07 pm
So would it be worth trading up in the draft from 1.5 to1.3 to have your choice of Taylor or dobbins. Is swift that much better in the groups opinion. I have 1.1 and will be taking CEH.
If you can trade up and get Taylor I would do that.

TBH - if you like Swift, you should just trade a 3rd rounder for Kerryon. His value has fallen thru the floor and Swift/Kerryon comp very closely to one another
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara

Postby Hottoddies » Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:24 pm

The Lions have said that they plan on Swift being a part of their RB committee. However, I do think that Swift will prove to be the most productive one of that group and take over the "lions share" of the work load.
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara

Postby Plank » Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:37 am

Swift is one of the top running backs in the 2020 draft class with his excellent combination of traits. He has extensive experience
as an I back and predominantly ran zone concepts at Georgia (both inside and outside). Swift has an outstanding feel for the
tempo and pace of the zone run game with his patience, vision, and his understanding of defensive fronts both before the snap
and their fluidity after the snap. He has high-level lateral quickness, short-area burst, and acceleration with the ability to make
sharp decisive cuts at the second and third levels without losing velocity or speed momentum. My sense is Swift can be highly
effective as a receiver both out of the backfield and detached from the formation. Dalvin Cook and Alvin Kamara came to mind
when I projected Swift to the NFL. I think Swift has traits and attributes that will allow him to be used in a similar way:
Outside-zone run game as the foundation with the ability to be effective as a receiver in multiple ways.

Cossell on him ..
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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara

Postby bjd5211 » Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:44 am

Htowndds wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:07 pm
So would it be worth trading up in the draft from 1.5 to1.3 to have your choice of Taylor or dobbins. Is swift that much better in the groups opinion. I have 1.1 and will be taking CEH.
I don't think you'll have "your choice" of Taylor or Dobbins at 1.03 unless it's SF/2QB, you'll likely be picking between Dobbins/Swift/Akers/WRs in most leagues. CEH and JT are going top 2 in the majority of leagues.

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Re: Is swifts game like Kamara

Postby maxhyde » Wed Apr 29, 2020 1:24 pm

I'd be surprised if Swift isn't the top option in that RBBC before game 6.
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