Way, way too early to say that...FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:57 pmDarrell Henderson is going to have a significant role in the Rams offense. The idea that Akers would come back and have a chance at being the lead back again, which some thought possible in the off season, because many didn't think much of Henderson, is all but gone, barring a major injury to Henderson. Many people were still wanting first plus, for him at that time. That's not happening at this point.Sriracha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:55 pmHuh?FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:12 am His value is dropping fast. Provided Henderson doesn't suffer a similar injury, Akers role is not going to be lead back of the Rams any time soon.
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I don't think so. IF Henderson keeps playing the way he has, and he's healthy next year, Akers won't be a bell cow/lead back. I say that with a high degree of certainty. It was always doubtful he would be, coming off that injury, but many didn't think much of Henderson. Akers is a committee back next year, at best (meaning assuming his rehab goes well) if things hold. I think it would be delusional for anyone thinking that this version of Henderson wouldn't have a significant role next year, at the expense of a guy coming off an achilles assuming a 3 down bell cow role.Sriracha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:49 pmWay, way too early to say that...FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:57 pmDarrell Henderson is going to have a significant role in the Rams offense. The idea that Akers would come back and have a chance at being the lead back again, which some thought possible in the off season, because many didn't think much of Henderson, is all but gone, barring a major injury to Henderson. Many people were still wanting first plus, for him at that time. That's not happening at this point.
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I'll side with FF here. The uncertainty of Akers effectiveness once he comes back is still there. Henderson has played better than even I thought. I've admittedly never been a fan, but on a strong offense who will be nursing a lot of leads, he's a great RB play this year. He's been great for my redraft. I'd imagine people in dynasty are holding and hoping to get more of this in the future.
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Agree on this 100%FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 11:12 am His value is dropping fast. Provided Henderson doesn't suffer a similar injury, Akers role is not going to be lead back of the Rams any time soon.
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Based on opinions...? How is his value dropping?
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Wr: DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Diontae Johnson, Darnell Mooney, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Jakobi Meyers, Laviska Shenault, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Denzel Mims, Richie James, Michael Wilson, Demario Douglas, Trent Sherfield
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There’s another thread I go into some detail. Just the fact that DH is established makes the ‘3 down back’ Cam Akers less likely than a committee. I’ve also had two Achilles tears and know first hand how they will approach him. RB tend to take longer to regain their conditioning and explosiveness. At best it’s a committee where he eases in and if perfoming well, earns more playing time than DH. A lot of people are also using Marlon Mack as a litmus and poo poo McGoo there.
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Henderson isn't being relegated to mop up duty if/when Akers is able to return. The kid can play.Sriracha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:49 pmWay, way too early to say that...FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:57 pmDarrell Henderson is going to have a significant role in the Rams offense. The idea that Akers would come back and have a chance at being the lead back again, which some thought possible in the off season, because many didn't think much of Henderson, is all but gone, barring a major injury to Henderson. Many people were still wanting first plus, for him at that time. That's not happening at this point.
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I don't know how you can watch Henderson and see his production this year and make this statement. The keys will not be handed to AkersSriracha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:49 pmWay, way too early to say that...FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:57 pmDarrell Henderson is going to have a significant role in the Rams offense. The idea that Akers would come back and have a chance at being the lead back again, which some thought possible in the off season, because many didn't think much of Henderson, is all but gone, barring a major injury to Henderson. Many people were still wanting first plus, for him at that time. That's not happening at this point.
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That is a pipe dream at this pointmurphysxm wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:50 amI don't know how you can watch Henderson and see his production this year and make this statement. The keys will not be handed to AkersSriracha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 2:49 pmWay, way too early to say that...FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun Oct 31, 2021 1:57 pm
Darrell Henderson is going to have a significant role in the Rams offense. The idea that Akers would come back and have a chance at being the lead back again, which some thought possible in the off season, because many didn't think much of Henderson, is all but gone, barring a major injury to Henderson. Many people were still wanting first plus, for him at that time. That's not happening at this point.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
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Even Akers truthers shouldn't be expecting bell cow role anytime soon. That said, there's no reason he can't be fantasy viable in a committee. There are very very few bell cows in the NFL today.
I see his injury as the bigger issue. If he can make it back healthy, I think he will be incorporated. Also, let's not pretend Henderson is immune from injury. This situation could look entirely different a year from now.
I see his injury as the bigger issue. If he can make it back healthy, I think he will be incorporated. Also, let's not pretend Henderson is immune from injury. This situation could look entirely different a year from now.
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All very true, but I think it's important to at least consider that going into next year, Akers getting an aggravation of his injury or some other injury crop up due to a change in his biomechanics is likely a larger risk than even the to date injury prone Henderson...CGW wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:51 am Even Akers truthers shouldn't be expecting bell cow role anytime soon. That said, there's no reason he can't be fantasy viable in a committee. There are very very few bell cows in the NFL today.
I see his injury as the bigger issue. If he can make it back healthy, I think he will be incorporated. Also, let's not pretend Henderson is immune from injury. This situation could look entirely different a year from now.
So, the Akers owner that's hoping for a future featured role in LA isn't just hoping for Akers getting healthy enough to force a committee, but also hoping that the (in my educated opinion) higher injury risk Akers stays healthier than Henderson.
What I would do at this time is try to sell Akers to the Henderson owner for a second rounder...hope he takes it. Second rounders don't have a really high success rate, but at least they're (presumably) healthy bets.
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We saw Sony Michel produce in this offense and get the lion's share of touches in the game and a half that Henderson missed.
He produced at the same clip that Henderson did and then went right back to playing as a reserve... it seems pretty obvious that McVay prefers to have a workhorse RB in his offense...
Which begs the question, will Akers be better than Henderson after he returns? At this point, who knows but these overly confident opinions are based on extreme recency bias and heavily extrapolated data on a small sample size injury.
Until we know the answer to that these conclusions seem overzealous.
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You think the concept that Akers is unlikely to come back and be a bell cow next year is overly confident? It's just being realistic.Sriracha wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:13 pmWe saw Sony Michel produce in this offense and get the lion's share of touches in the game and a half that Henderson missed.
He produced at the same clip that Henderson did and then went right back to playing as a reserve... it seems pretty obvious that McVay prefers to have a workhorse RB in his offense...
Which begs the question, will Akers be better than Henderson after he returns? At this point, who knows but these overly confident opinions are based on extreme recency bias and heavily extrapolated data on a small sample size injury.
Until we know the answer to that these conclusions seem overzealous.
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Saying it's a pipe dream, or slamming the door on the possibility he emerges as a workhorse in the future is what I consider to be overly confident.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:22 pmYou think the concept that Akers is unlikely to come back and be a bell cow next year is overly confident? It's just being realistic.Sriracha wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:13 pmWe saw Sony Michel produce in this offense and get the lion's share of touches in the game and a half that Henderson missed.
He produced at the same clip that Henderson did and then went right back to playing as a reserve... it seems pretty obvious that McVay prefers to have a workhorse RB in his offense...
Which begs the question, will Akers be better than Henderson after he returns? At this point, who knows but these overly confident opinions are based on extreme recency bias and heavily extrapolated data on a small sample size injury.
Until we know the answer to that these conclusions seem overzealous.
I get that my opinion is in the minority, though... so we'll just have to see how things shake out at his point.
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Ah. I see. The pipe dream comment. It's optimistic thinking for sure, but I see your point that it's not out of the realm of possibility. I just think it's a lot less likely than it was 2 months ago.Sriracha wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:00 pmSaying it's a pipe dream, or slamming the door on the possibility he emerges as a workhorse in the future is overly confident at this point, imo.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:22 pmYou think the concept that Akers is unlikely to come back and be a bell cow next year is overly confident? It's just being realistic.Sriracha wrote: ↑Mon Nov 01, 2021 1:13 pm
We saw Sony Michel produce in this offense and get the lion's share of touches in the game and a half that Henderson missed.
He produced at the same clip that Henderson did and then went right back to playing as a reserve... it seems pretty obvious that McVay prefers to have a workhorse RB in his offense...
Which begs the question, will Akers be better than Henderson after he returns? At this point, who knows but these overly confident opinions are based on extreme recency bias and heavily extrapolated data on a small sample size injury.
Until we know the answer to that these conclusions seem overzealous.
I get that my opinion is in the minority, though... so we'll just have to see how things shake out at his point.
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