Cam Akers Official Thread
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Pretty brutal for Akers (and fantasy owners). This year is gone and I assume there's a good chance he's not full speed next year. Not droppable, but his value has to be more than cut in half by the news.
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Re: Cam Akers Official Thread
His range of outcomes is RB1 overall to RB100. This could be the biggest what-if in fantasy football history.
I think you absolutely have to hold. You will get nothing in return to help you this year and if he looks like his old self, you will regret it forever.
The first guy Cam Akers should call is Kevin Durant. I don't think there's ever been an athlete that has recovered that well from an Achilles injury quite like KD in a sport that requires even more athleticism.
I think you absolutely have to hold. You will get nothing in return to help you this year and if he looks like his old self, you will regret it forever.
The first guy Cam Akers should call is Kevin Durant. I don't think there's ever been an athlete that has recovered that well from an Achilles injury quite like KD in a sport that requires even more athleticism.
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Plenty of athletes have returned at a high level from this injury, just not running backs.CL3VELANDBR0WNS wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 am His range of outcomes is RB1 overall to RB100. This could be the biggest what-if in fantasy football history.
I think you absolutely have to hold. You will get nothing in return to help you this year and if he looks like his old self, you will regret it forever.
The first guy Cam Akers should call is Kevin Durant. I don't think there's ever been an athlete that has recovered that well from an Achilles injury quite like KD in a sport that requires even more athleticism.
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Re: Cam Akers Official Thread
There is still alot of love for Akers, sell now, you CAN get something.....CL3VELANDBR0WNS wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 am You will get nothing in return to help you this year and if he looks like his old self, you will regret it forever.
My league mate just got Chris Carson for Akers.
While I'm not the biggest Carson fan, I think that's a WIN for the Akers owner. (the one who trader Akers)
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Re: Cam Akers Official Thread
This is spot on. The history is not on his side. Marlon Mack is going to be a decent litmus testOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:08 am
Plenty of athletes have returned at a high level from this injury, just not running backs.
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
Re: Cam Akers Official Thread
And probably quite a bit more than cut in half, at that.dynastyninja wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:45 am Pretty brutal for Akers (and fantasy owners). This year is gone and I assume there's a good chance he's not full speed next year. Not droppable, but his value has to be more than cut in half by the news.
Over in the trade forum he was just moved for Damien Harris and most people replying are saying it was a good deal for the person getting Harris. He was worth a lot more than two Damien Harris's before the injury.
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Re: Cam Akers Official Thread
I'll be holding if the price is one patriot RB.Vcize wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:27 amAnd probably quite a bit more than cut in half, at that.dynastyninja wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:45 am Pretty brutal for Akers (and fantasy owners). This year is gone and I assume there's a good chance he's not full speed next year. Not droppable, but his value has to be more than cut in half by the news.
Over in the trade forum he was just moved for Damien Harris and most people replying are saying it was a good deal for the person getting Harris. He was worth a lot more than two Damien Harris's before the injury.
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Re: Cam Akers Official Thread
Someone brought that up before and it ignores that Durant is an all-time great player and an outlier. Dominique Wilkins is as well.CL3VELANDBR0WNS wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 am His range of outcomes is RB1 overall to RB100. This could be the biggest what-if in fantasy football history.
I think you absolutely have to hold. You will get nothing in return to help you this year and if he looks like his old self, you will regret it forever.
The first guy Cam Akers should call is Kevin Durant. I don't think there's ever been an athlete that has recovered that well from an Achilles injury quite like KD in a sport that requires even more athleticism.
It's going to be easier for players to play better in the MLB and the NBA after a tear, even though it still comes with a significant amount of difficulty to do so. This is what Durant was going up against history wise with NBA players and achilles tears: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/kevin-d ... 06839.html
Basically a history of players who decline after the tear.
Here are the only comparables we have to NFL RBs:
Here's a longer thread on it:https://twitter.com/KentWeyrauch/status ... 9758093313
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Re: Cam Akers Official Thread
The problem there is barring an injury he’ll never get a significant real time work load while he’s in IND.murphysxm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:26 pmThis is spot on. The history is not on his side. Marlon Mack is going to be a decent litmus testOrenthal Shames wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:08 am
Plenty of athletes have returned at a high level from this injury, just not running backs.
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Re: Cam Akers Official Thread
Have an offer on the table of giving what should definitely be a bottom 4 pick 1.9-1.12 in 2022 for Akers. My team is in a major rebuild (standard league scoring). Is this an overpay for Akers at this point?
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Re: Cam Akers Official Thread
To me, yes that is to much capital on the gambleDr.Graffin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:57 pm Have an offer on the table of giving what should definitely be a bottom 4 pick 1.9-1.12 in 2022 for Akers. My team is in a major rebuild (standard league scoring). Is this an overpay for Akers at this point?
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts
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I’d also prefer the first.murphysxm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:19 pmTo me, yes that is to much capital on the gambleDr.Graffin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:57 pm Have an offer on the table of giving what should definitely be a bottom 4 pick 1.9-1.12 in 2022 for Akers. My team is in a major rebuild (standard league scoring). Is this an overpay for Akers at this point?
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Keep the first, easily.Dr.Graffin wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:57 pm Have an offer on the table of giving what should definitely be a bottom 4 pick 1.9-1.12 in 2022 for Akers. My team is in a major rebuild (standard league scoring). Is this an overpay for Akers at this point?
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
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Re: Cam Akers Official Thread
Michael Thomas is in the same situation now.JTLoh wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:48 pmThere is still alot of love for Akers, sell now, you CAN get something.....CL3VELANDBR0WNS wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 am You will get nothing in return to help you this year and if he looks like his old self, you will regret it forever.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
Re: Cam Akers Official Thread
And…. ?Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:01 amSomeone brought that up before and it ignores that Durant is an all-time great player and an outlier. Dominique Wilkins is as well.CL3VELANDBR0WNS wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 9:59 am His range of outcomes is RB1 overall to RB100. This could be the biggest what-if in fantasy football history.
I think you absolutely have to hold. You will get nothing in return to help you this year and if he looks like his old self, you will regret it forever.
The first guy Cam Akers should call is Kevin Durant. I don't think there's ever been an athlete that has recovered that well from an Achilles injury quite like KD in a sport that requires even more athleticism.
It's going to be easier for players to play better in the MLB and the NBA after a tear, even though it still comes with a significant amount of difficulty to do so. This is what Durant was going up against history wise with NBA players and achilles tears: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/kevin-d ... 06839.html
Basically a history of players who decline after the tear.
Here are the only comparables we have to NFL RBs:
Here's a longer thread on it:https://twitter.com/KentWeyrauch/status ... 9758093313
That’s a sample size of 11.
I do agree Akers is significantly riskier now… but I’m not going to run out to worst case scenario over a sample that small filled with players that were not in comparable situations..
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