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Re: If Broncos take a QB, Jeudy + Sutton value?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:13 pm

mild wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:50 pm
broncohead wrote: Fri Apr 23, 2021 7:52 pm Not sure if Fields or Lance would be much of an improvement (if at all) over Lock. At least in terms of FF/statistically.
This is an insane take.

Fields would be a massive improvement, in both contexts - and especially as a standalone fantasy piece. You are talking about Drew Lock: by many, many metrics one of the worst QB's in the league. Fields would be a must-have for late round QB fliers in 1QB redraft, and the QB2 with a bullet in Superflex rookie drafts. Zero question.

Don't forget: a 4.44 40-yard at 6"3 227 lbs would arguably make Fields the RB1 of this class athletically. Only RG3 has measured faster (4.41). He is the most likely of any of these QB's to take off and run, Lamar style. QB's that can rush on 3rd down to keep their offenses on the field is the new meta, and staying on the field in a game creates more opportunities (ie attempts) for the rest of the offense to score. A rising tide lifts all ships.

Now you're telling me that he would have (one of) the best pass-catching corps in the league, plus a capable pass catching RB in Melvin Gordon? You're spelling out spiked weeks for Fields, my friend. He would be a fantasy rock-star.
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Re: If Broncos take a QB, Jeudy + Sutton value?

Postby mild » Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:51 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:13 pm lol
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Re: If Broncos take a QB, Jeudy + Sutton value?

Postby Sriracha » Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:19 am

I do get a kick out of “fastest timed 40 since RG3”.

1. Everyone is running “faster” because there is no combine.

2. Elite Running QBs don’t run the 40 — Lamar/Kyler are both faster.

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Re: If Broncos take a QB, Jeudy + Sutton value?

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:50 am

Sriracha wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:19 am I do get a kick out of “fastest timed 40 since RG3”.

1. Everyone is running “faster” because there is no combine.

2. Elite Running QBs don’t run the 40 — Lamar/Kyler are both faster.
Fields looks very quick and athletic but I don't buy 4.4. he's not that much faster than Lance or Wilson for that matter

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Re: If Broncos take a QB, Jeudy + Sutton value?

Postby Pac_Eddy » Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:31 pm

Sriracha wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:19 am I do get a kick out of “fastest timed 40 since RG3”.

1. Everyone is running “faster” because there is no combine.

2. Elite Running QBs don’t run the 40 — Lamar/Kyler are both faster.
I don't really care about his 40 time. I already know he's fast enough as a QB for read options and designed runs. This lifts his floor.
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Re: If Broncos take a QB, Jeudy + Sutton value?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:40 pm

Frame counters have his time as a 4.50

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Re: If Broncos take a QB, Jeudy + Sutton value?

Postby mild » Sun Apr 25, 2021 5:54 pm

Sriracha wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:19 am I do get a kick out of “fastest timed 40 since RG3”.

1. Everyone is running “faster” because there is no combine.

2. Elite Running QBs don’t run the 40 — Lamar/Kyler are both faster.
I definitely enjoyed choosing that wording carefully, so you're welcome. :D I definitely agree that Lamar and Kyler are both faster. The point being that he'll be in that sort of class of QB, though.

Because regardless, we're still talking about a dude with RB1 measurables playing QB. I'd be excited about him in Denver if it eventuated... his accuracy would be a huge upgrade over Lock. That offense would really boom with Fields, I feel.

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Re: The Courtland Sutton Thread

Postby Pac_Eddy » Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:05 am

Back from ACL injury early in last season, only 3 targets and 1 catch for 14 yards.

Does he suck or is there something else going on? Getting weary of waiting on him.
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Re: The Courtland Sutton Thread

Postby Shcritters » Tue Sep 14, 2021 12:56 pm

Well, if he doesn't re-assert himself in the next 4-6 weeks while Jeudy's out it'll be about time to start writing him off. Patrick and Hamler are good, but he's supposed to be better than both of them.
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Re: The Courtland Sutton Thread

Postby Space Cowboy » Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:04 pm

It was game 1 from a major injury against a bad team when they have tons of weapons. Last thing you want to do is panic. He's a solid WR2 (in time) or a high end WR3.

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Re: The Courtland Sutton Thread

Postby Sriracha » Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:10 pm

Space Cowboy wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:04 pm It was game 1 from a major injury against a bad team when they have tons of weapons. Last thing you want to do is panic. He's a solid WR2 (in time) or a high end WR3.
After checking the usage rates, he led all DEN WRs with an 80% snap share.

Going to chalk this up to DEN having a plethora of weapons, Teddy throwing to the open man, and James Bradberry (the #2 cover corner in 2020) shadowing him.

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Re: The Courtland Sutton Thread

Postby Anteaters » Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:43 pm

Sriracha wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:10 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:04 pm It was game 1 from a major injury against a bad team when they have tons of weapons. Last thing you want to do is panic. He's a solid WR2 (in time) or a high end WR3.
After checking the usage rates, he led all DEN WRs with an 80% snap share.

Going to chalk this up to DEN having a plethora of weapons, Teddy throwing to the open man, and James Bradberry (the #2 cover corner in 2020) shadowing him.
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Re: The Courtland Sutton Thread

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:44 pm

Teddy B sucks. He ruined DJM now he’s going to ruin Sutton

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Re: If Broncos take a QB, Jeudy + Sutton value?

Postby Ice » Tue Sep 14, 2021 4:52 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 1:40 pm Frame counters have his time as a 4.50
Ahhhh, Now we know why that sloth can't beat out Dalton. :o

On a side note, Sutton at least has a chance with Jeudy out but he isn't a great route runner and Teddy will find a way to go elsewhere.
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Re: The Courtland Sutton Thread

Postby StripesOfKC » Fri Sep 24, 2021 10:18 am

Still better than Jeudy as he has always been

Wish I still owned a share or two

Congrats to those who got him at the ridiculous prices he was going this offseason (for an early 2nd like some scrub)


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