Re: What to do with Jordan Howard
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2019 7:40 am
Yeah, the carries will get split up well in PHI, keeping everyone fresher. I LOOOOOVE that. No need to run a guy into the ground.
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Yeah, the carries will get split up well in PHI, keeping everyone fresher. I LOOOOOVE that. No need to run a guy into the ground.
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You thought Howard was the "better" rb than Sanders? I think Howard is a temporary place holder and if the carries were siphoned to Sanders, we'd see top 5ish rb numbers. Sanders to me looks to be more explosive. Howard looked good last night against a below average run defense. Howard, I think is the short term rbbc veteran presence while Sanders is the not too distant future guy to own from that backfield.
Well. What are you paying where you are buying? There are different people in each league. In dynasty, if I'm a depth rb away from feeling good about my depth, I'd offer a late 2nd or so for Howard. I don't at all see him as a long term answer. The holes both of these guys were running through last night were massive. I just knew I'd see some comments here today talking about how good Howard looked etc etc. Howard isn't creative, doesn't have great lateral agility, doesn't catch the ball great, and frankly, if he was "quietly excellent" like you hint at, why the hell would a defensive team that wants to grind the ball (the bears) draft Montgomery and let Howard go? Maybe there is something there that I'm not informed about. Or maybe I missed something. Anyway - C'mon Dook - quietly excellent is an odd way to describe Howard and one that I have to disagree with you on. I do however agree that right now, Howard is a nice asset for the Eagles to use in the short term while Sanders gets more acclimated to the NFL game. So, in the short term, I feel ya. I agree that on certain teams in dynasty, it'd make sense. But, the long game view on Howard - seems to me - he is a non factor. Long term (next year or maybe even later on this year) - I see it as incredibly likely that Sanders sees more carries, targets, and snaps than Howard. Howard could however retain the goal line duties. Never know.Dookmarriot wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:09 am I find it interesting that the narrative seems to be that Howard is some kind of stiff interfering with Sanders' clear ascent to greatness, rather than a 24 year old back who has been quietly excellent in 3 seasons as an NFL player.
I think Sanders was the best back in this class and holds great potential (if he can learn to hang on to the rock) but Howard I think is being greatly underrated. His vision and pass pro ability are big plusses while Sanders learns the game.
I understand that Howard is a pass catching zero limits him in ppr, and that the committee approach in Philly renders him not much more than a flex play right now. But right now he's cheap to acquire, can be a fantastic RB2 if Sanders stiffs, and he also happens to be a free agent next year while he's still in his physical prime. I'm buying where I can.
Sanders looks explosive, but he's making a ton of mistakes. Howard looks like the better RB to do what the team needs him to do right now. Sanders being top 5 is a pipe dream at this point, because he is nowhere near ready to take on those extra carries. Howard may be a placeholder, but he's most likely a placeholder for another back that will be part of that committee.JFever wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:47 amYou thought Howard was the "better" rb than Sanders? I think Howard is a temporary place holder and if the carries were siphoned to Sanders, we'd see top 5ish rb numbers. Sanders to me looks to be more explosive. Howard looked good last night against a below average run defense. Howard, I think is the short term rbbc veteran presence while Sanders is the not too distant future guy to own from that backfield.
Not really a bold take. In today's NFL landscape, how many bell cow rb are there? It is entirely possible that another back is brought in after Howard is used. It is also very possible that Sanders learns from his mistakes, makes improvements in his game and is the primary running back for Philadelphia. I'm not saying in the next few weeks that Sanders will have top 5 production at all. In the future - say by mid next year - I see it as quite plausible. Sanders arrow is pointing up. For the time being Howard has rb2 value imo. In dynasty, Sanders has more value now and likely this gap will grow.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:01 amSanders looks explosive, but he's making a ton of mistakes. Howard looks like the better RB to do what the team needs him to do right now. Sanders being top 5 is a pipe dream at this point, because he is nowhere near ready to take on those extra carries. Howard may be a placeholder, but he's most likely a placeholder for another back that will be part of that committee.JFever wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:47 amYou thought Howard was the "better" rb than Sanders? I think Howard is a temporary place holder and if the carries were siphoned to Sanders, we'd see top 5ish rb numbers. Sanders to me looks to be more explosive. Howard looked good last night against a below average run defense. Howard, I think is the short term rbbc veteran presence while Sanders is the not too distant future guy to own from that backfield.