Joe Mixon Thread: 4 Year extension in Cincy

[SoftwoodGrampian]

At this point he wouldn’t fetch two 1sts unless they were sure fire late. And nothing is sure fire

[jomaed]

What WR straight up for him would be buying low?

Buying low on Mixon seems slightly tricky as even though you may be getting good value, there's a decent chance you will be losing out on fantasy points for awhile.

[Vcize]

I just offered a 1st and a 2nd for him in a league where I have no depth at RB behind Kamara/Singletary, to a team that is 0-3. We'll see how desperate to sell his owner is.

[Vcize]

What WR straight up for him would be buying low?

Buying low on Mixon seems slightly tricky as even though you may be getting good value, there's a decent chance you will be losing out on fantasy points for awhile.

Right that's the risk. Sometimes buying low is buying high.

[lukkynumber13]

He's the best buy-low in football right now - let's revisit this post at end of season

What is buying low though? He was ranked as RB7 preseason. If someone's selling him for a guy like Drake or Swift, then sure. Otherwise, he's still a top 12 RB for pretty much anyone out there.

Are you saying buy low would be trading a guy like Henry, Chubb, or JT for him?

That's a really good point - in my head I'm thinking something like a random 1st from a good team plus Landry or Edelman or Christian Kirk or something - but those who own Mixon are (like myself) going to hold him with tight fists, most likely - I just traded Mike Evans for him in a league, which is certainly not buying low

[SteveMaddensShoes]

I just dont think he has great vision. He has great burst and strength, i just dont see elite vision. I hardly know what im ever talking about though. Just my 2c. Dynasty DeLorean said he was a fake bellcow in his rookie year and that's been pretty accurate. I think he said he would always look like he was about to break out and for some reason never quite live up. Pretty spot on so far. Lots of excuses and yes they do seem valid as well. Not sure what to think myself.

Id buy though but only for another low, OBJ for example, or a cheap price, 1st and 2nd or 1st and Aiyuck type of deal. I wouldn't send 2 1sts or anyone in that range like AJB or DK or DJM.

But I could be wrong. Im all about buying low on players, but im not paying market on Mixon.

[Cameron Giles]

I just dont think he has great vision. He has great burst and strength, i just dont see elite vision. I hardly know what im ever talking about though. Just my 2c. Dynasty DeLorean said he was a fake bellcow in his rookie year and that's been pretty accurate. I think he said he would always look like he was about to break out and for some reason never quite live up. Pretty spot on so far. Lots of excuses and yes they do seem valid as well. Not sure what to think myself.

Id buy though but only for another low, OBJ for example, or a cheap price, 1st and 2nd or 1st and Aiyuck type of deal. I wouldn't send 2 1sts or anyone in that range like AJB or DK or DJM.

But I could be wrong. Im all about buying low on players, but im not paying market on Mixon.

Store brand Le'Veon Bell

[SteveMaddensShoes]

I just dont think he has great vision. He has great burst and strength, i just dont see elite vision. I hardly know what im ever talking about though. Just my 2c. Dynasty DeLorean said he was a fake bellcow in his rookie year and that's been pretty accurate. I think he said he would always look like he was about to break out and for some reason never quite live up. Pretty spot on so far. Lots of excuses and yes they do seem valid as well. Not sure what to think myself.

Id buy though but only for another low, OBJ for example, or a cheap price, 1st and 2nd or 1st and Aiyuck type of deal. I wouldn't send 2 1sts or anyone in that range like AJB or DK or DJM.

But I could be wrong. Im all about buying low on players, but im not paying market on Mixon.

Store brand Le'Veon Bell

That's exactly who I had in mind as the superior version of Mixon. In his prime Bell made the game look slow. He could manipulate the defense into moving out of position and create more space and time for himself. It was incredible. Mixon may have more burst than Bell did but doesn't have that skillset to see how everything is unfolding and manipulate it. Just my opinon.

[BigBawseRoss]

the line is just really bad. not only can mixon go nowhere but burrow is under siege constantly. he threw it 61 times in a game. thats not possible if you have time to throw and let routes develop. Joe burrow is the most sacked qb in football as further proof. its not mixon folks, mixon is simply a reminder that situation is a giant factor and that talent only goes so far sometimes.

[Vcize]

the line is just really bad. not only can mixon go nowhere but burrow is under siege constantly. he threw it 61 times in a game. thats not possible if you have time to throw and let routes develop. Joe burrow is the most sacked qb in football as further proof. its not mixon folks, mixon is simply a reminder that situation is a giant factor and that talent only goes so far sometimes.

Even on plays where he gets to the second level he never does anything with it. I think the vision remark above is spot on. It's the reason Chubb is valuable on a bad team because once he gets to the second level he breaks tackles, finds the right angle, etc and turns it into a 40 yards TD. Mixon just kind of runs straight into 3 DBs and falls over for a 7 yard gain.

The other big mark on Mixon relative to the line is that he doesn't really look any better than Gio behind that line. When Mixon has missed time over the last 3 years Gio came in and was at least as good if not better replacing him.

Over the last 3 years Gio has started six games when Mixon was hurt and he averaged over 5ypc in four of them, as well as 4.6 YPC in one of the others. The offense doesn't really miss a beat with Mixon out.

Also as I think I may have already mentioned in this thread there are a lot of advanced statistics out there that attempt to separate RBs from their line play like yards over replacement, yards created per carry, etc and Mixon ranks mediocre to poor in most of those.

[AussieMate]

I just dont think he has great vision. He has great burst and strength, i just dont see elite vision. I hardly know what im ever talking about though. Just my 2c. Dynasty DeLorean said he was a fake bellcow in his rookie year and that's been pretty accurate. I think he said he would always look like he was about to break out and for some reason never quite live up. Pretty spot on so far. Lots of excuses and yes they do seem valid as well. Not sure what to think myself.

Id buy though but only for another low, OBJ for example, or a cheap price, 1st and 2nd or 1st and Aiyuck type of deal. I wouldn't send 2 1sts or anyone in that range like AJB or DK or DJM.

But I could be wrong. Im all about buying low on players, but im not paying market on Mixon.

Store brand Le'Veon Bell

That's exactly who I had in mind as the superior version of Mixon. In his prime Bell made the game look slow. He could manipulate the defense into moving out of position and create more space and time for himself. It was incredible. Mixon may have more burst than Bell did but doesn't have that skillset to see how everything is unfolding and manipulate it. Just my opinon.

Are we still looking at Bell as elite? I'm moving further towards him benefiting to a good oline and good coaching, obvs some is him but I'm not sure the %

[MFundercover]

I was offered Mixon for Saquon and Sutton. When I rejected and countered the owner (commish) went on a rant about how Mixon is a top 10 RB and that Saquon is the next Guice and Sutton is worthless. Then he tried kicking me out of the league without refund.

So obviously Mixon isn't worth much and owners are melting down over it.

[FantasyFreak]

I was offered Mixon for Saquon and Sutton. When I rejected and countered the owner (commish) went on a rant about how Mixon is a top 10 RB and that Saquon is the next Guice and Sutton is worthless. Then he tried kicking me out of the league without refund.

So obviously Mixon isn't worth much and owners are melting down over it.

I'd go to LeagueSafe and ask for refund, and post those messages to the league, if that's true.

[MFundercover]

I was offered Mixon for Saquon and Sutton. When I rejected and countered the owner (commish) went on a rant about how Mixon is a top 10 RB and that Saquon is the next Guice and Sutton is worthless. Then he tried kicking me out of the league without refund.

So obviously Mixon isn't worth much and owners are melting down over it.

I'd go to LeagueSafe and ask for refund, and post those messages to the league, if that's true.

This happened about a week ago. I sent screenshots of the DMs to other players in the league, and almost all of them said they would quit if he kicked me out for that.

Commish is a clown. Kid botched his startup draft and won 2 games last year, then sold 4 years worth of draft picks (2020-2023) for players on rebuilding rosters. He has a great starting lineup, but zero depth, and literally zero draft picks until 2024. He's 3-0 now and talking trash like he's a fantasy expert all of a sudden. One injury this season and he's toast, and his team value will be in the toilet in 2-3 years with no way out. In the meantime everyone in the league has to suffer through the Mixon > Barkley/Sutton takes.

[AussieMate]

I was offered Mixon for Saquon and Sutton. When I rejected and countered the owner (commish) went on a rant about how Mixon is a top 10 RB and that Saquon is the next Guice and Sutton is worthless. Then he tried kicking me out of the league without refund.

So obviously Mixon isn't worth much and owners are melting down over it.

I constantly tell myself these people don't exist as I can't fathom this tactic or how they think it would work. That guy is the definition of clown, I'm sorry you have to deal with him as commish.